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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2002, 08:50:14 AM »
I agree...
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2002, 08:52:21 AM »
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you just opened the floodgates .. we've been through this

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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2002, 09:13:37 AM »
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You forgot message. KRS-ONE, Nas, Tupac, all have something to say. They speak on issues. Em just raps about his life. KRS has always been rappin about bad cops, drug awareness and other issues. What message has Em brought to the table?  


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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2002, 09:30:57 AM »
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How do you figure that?
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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2002, 10:50:06 AM »
Rakim, Krs-one and Big Daddy Kane were better than Eminem...I would put Ice Cube in there too...
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2002, 10:57:51 AM »
If you guys think about it Rap music wasnt made to have the best flow and best voice it was about message. Poetry plays a big part in rap. Just listen to Chuck D. I consider him one of the Greatests because of his messages. He cant flow for shit though. The reason I dont like eminem is because of him being so overrated. Like someone said above, Eminem just talks about his life. Im not his physiatrist so I cant relate or care about what he says. THAT is why he will never be the greatist. I know why people say Pac is the greatist now. Its because he was a voice. He had messages and whether you like him or not he was the greatist. Hes not my fav(not even close) but Pac was the greatist if you think about it. Eminems fans cant relate to him unless they have a pill popping mom, a whore ex girlfriend and a daughter. His fans like him for the music but since he cant tell a message or change the game in any way he will never be the greatist. And thats the truth.







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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2002, 10:58:18 AM »
Yer they are both dope on the mic
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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2002, 10:59:20 AM »
eminem sucks a big dick. the following artists are the CERTIFIED GOATS IMO:

Snoop(Doggy)Dogg
Dr. Dre
2pac
Biggie Smalls
Rakim
Ice Cube
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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2002, 11:24:28 AM »
there's a good 20-30 MC's better than Eminem... cat is overhyped... he hasn't said anything interesting since SSLP.
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2002, 11:28:50 AM »
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If you guys think about it Rap music wasnt made to have the best flow and best voice it was about message. Poetry plays a big part in rap. Just listen to Chuck D. I consider him one of the Greatests because of his messages. He cant flow for shit though. The reason I dont like eminem is because of him being so overrated. Like someone said above, Eminem just talks about his life. Im not his physiatrist so I cant relate or care about what he says. THAT is why he will never be the greatist. I know why people say Pac is the greatist now. Its because he was a voice. He had messages and whether you like him or not he was the greatist. Hes not my fav(not even close) but Pac was the greatist if you think about it. Eminems fans cant relate to him unless they have a pill popping mom, a whore ex girlfriend and a daughter. His fans like him for the music but since he cant tell a message or change the game in any way he will never be the greatist. And thats the truth.







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well, actually HipHop/Rap was about havin fun, havin a party. Even though Em seems to be talking about his life & personal situation all the time (btw, this isn't true) doesn't make him a weaker or less respected wordsmith. The reason why so many white kids listen to him is because they can identify with him. Don't underestimate him. His message is his person & the things he went through. He's the product of white America (think about it)...... He's highly influential.
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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2002, 11:30:34 AM »
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eminem sucks a big dick. the following artists are the CERTIFIED GOATS IMO:

Snoop(Doggy)Dogg
Dr. Dre
2pac
Biggie Smalls
Rakim
Ice Cube


we're talking about Mcs........ Dr Dre??
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2002, 11:31:08 AM »
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there's a good 20-30 MC's better than Eminem... cat is overhyped... he hasn't said anything interesting since SSLP.


His person is overhyped, his lyrics ain't.
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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2002, 11:33:27 AM »
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we're talking about Mcs........ Dr Dre??


okay sorry bout that. Take dr. dre off the list and any of the other rappers i mentioned are about 8383844034824 times better then eminem.
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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2002, 11:36:02 AM »
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okay sorry bout that. Take dr. dre off the list and any of the other rappers i mentioned are about 8383844034824 times better then eminem.


Ice Cube & Snoop Dogg?! I know you don't like Em (I don't like him either), but he's better than those dudes.
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Re: It's official: Em & Rakim are the best MCs eve
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2002, 11:39:00 AM »
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well, actually HipHop/Rap was about havin fun, havin a party. Even though Em seems to be talking about his life & personal situation all the time (btw, this isn't true) doesn't make him a weaker or less respected wordsmith. The reason why so many white kids listen to him is because they can identify with him. Don't underestimate him. His message is his person & the things he went through. He's the product of white America (think about it)...... He's highly influential.


His wordplay impresses me but my point was that he will never be viewed as the greatest by people other than his fans. Why? Because "his message is his person and the things he went through". That is something no one other than his physiatrist would care about. And its sad that white kids listen to him just cause of his race.


And im trying to figure out what you ment by "hes the product of white america". I dont think thats true. Not every white person likes him and not every white person is LIKE him.
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