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I wouldnt be happy with Arafat until I could take a shit in his cold dead mouth.
You guys are scumbags. What's your beef with Arafat. RIP and fuck the assholes who poisoned him.
i dont know where to start.
What's your beef with Arafat.
YASSER ARAFAT died at age 75, lying in bed surrounded by familiar faces. He left this world peacefully, unlike the thousands of victims he sent to early graves. In a better world, the PLO chief would have met his end on a gallows, hanged for mass murder much as the Nazi chiefs were hanged at Nuremberg. In a better world, the French president would not have paid a visit to the bedside of such a monster. In a better world, George Bush would not have said, on hearing the first reports that Arafat had died, "God bless his soul."God bless his soul? What a grotesque idea! Bless the soul of the man who brought modern terrorism to the world? Who sent his agents to slaughter athletes at the Olympics, blow airliners out of the sky, bomb schools and pizzerias, machine-gun passengers in airline terminals? Who lied, cheated, and stole without compunction? Who inculcated the vilest culture of Jew-hatred since the Third Reich? Human beings might stoop to bless a creature so evil -- as indeed Arafat was blessed, with money, deference, even a Nobel Prize -- but God, I am quite sure, will damn him for eternity.Arafat always inspired flights of nonsense from Western journalists, and his last two weeks were no exception.Derek Brown wrote in The Guardian that Arafat's "undisputed courage as a guerrilla leader" was exceeded only "by his extraordinary courage" as a peace negotiator. But it is an odd kind of courage that expresses itself in shooting unarmed victims -- or in signing peace accords and then flagrantly violating their terms.Another commentator, columnist Gwynne Dyer, asked, "So what did Arafat do right?" The answer: He drew worldwide attention to the Palestinian cause, "for the most part by successful acts of terror." In other words, butchering innocent human beings was "right," since it served an ulterior political motive. No doubt that thought brings daily comfort to all those who were forced to bury a child, parent, or spouse because of Arafat's "successful" terrorism.Some journalists couldn't wait for Arafat's actual death to begin weeping for him. Take the BBC's Barbara Plett, who burst into tears on the day he was airlifted out of the West Bank. "When the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound," Plett reported from Ramallah, "I started to cry." Normal people don't weep for brutal murderers, but Plett made it clear that her empathy for Arafat -- whom she praised as "a symbol of Palestinian unity, steadfastness, and resistance" -- was heartfelt:"I remember well when the Israelis re-conquered the West Bank more than two years ago, how they drove their tanks and bulldozers into Mr. Arafat's headquarters, trapping him in a few rooms, and throwing a military curtain around Ramallah. I remember how Palestinians admired his refusal to flee under fire. They told me: `Our leader is sharing our pain, we are all under the same siege.' And so was I." Such is the state of journalism at the BBC, whose reporters do not seem to have any trouble reporting, dry-eyed, on the plight of Arafat's victims. (That is, when they mention them -- which Plett's teary bon voyage to Arafat did not.)And what about those victims? Why were they scarcely remembered in this Arafat death watch?How is it possible to reflect on Arafat's most enduring legacy -- the rise of modern terrorism -- without recalling the legions of men, women, and children whose lives he and his followers destroyed? If Osama bin Laden were on his deathbed, would we neglect to mention all those he murdered on 9/11?It would take an encyclopedia to catalog all of the evil Arafat committed. But that is no excuse for not trying to recall at least some of it.Perhaps his signal contribution to the practice of political terror was the introduction of warfare against children. On one black date in May 1974, three PLO terrorists slipped from Lebanon into the northern Israeli town of Ma'alot. They murdered two parents and a child whom they found at home, then seized a local school, taking more than 100 boys and girls hostage and threatening to kill them unless a number of imprisoned terrorists were released. When Israeli troops attempted a rescue, the terrorists exploded hand grenades and opened fire on the students. By the time the horror ended, 25 people were dead; 21 of them were children.Thirty years later, no one speaks of Ma'alot anymore. The dead children have been forgotten. Everyone knows Arafat's name, but who ever recalls the names of his victims?So let us recall them: Ilana Turgeman. Rachel Aputa. Yocheved Mazoz. Sarah Ben-Shim'on. Yona Sabag. Yafa Cohen. Shoshana Cohen. Michal Sitrok. Malka Amrosy. Aviva Saada. Yocheved Diyi. Yaakov Levi. Yaakov Kabla. Rina Cohen. Ilana Ne'eman. Sarah Madar. Tamar Dahan. Sarah Soper. Lili Morad. David Madar. Yehudit Madar. The 21 dead children of Ma'alot -- 21 of the thousands of who died at Arafat's command.http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/11/11/arafat_the_monster/
years later, no one speaks of JENIN anymore. The dead children have been forgotten. Everyone knows ISRAEL, but who ever recalls the names of ITS victims?
Tech knew this would happen.Out of the woods comes all the goofs yappin about how Arafat was a terrorist, and a crook etc etc etcWhich I mean he was, I aint questioning that . I never denied Arafat attacked civilians or looted cash. But the nerve of some to highlight this things and not speak a word of Israels wrongdoings which make Arafat look like a Saint.In light of the actions of one man, an entire generation of oppression and persecution is forgotted. Forget the fact that these Palestinians have been shit on, lets look at the Palestinians leader, who - unbelievable as it may seem- chose to fight back with whatever was in his disposal. When you speak about the man, keep the conflict in mind, keep Israel in mind, understand the context of what youre sayin.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Thats one beef with this anti Arafat shit, the second one is the propogation of outright lies. And even after I have called motherfuckers out on this, these lies still continue to spread.Sikotic, you the homie, dont believe this nonsense about the man changing. The post 98 bullshit media reports will have yall believe that there was this historic gathering initiated by courageous Israelis and the vanglorious William Clinton. Palestinians grudgingly coming along. There in Camp David, a wonderful offer was made of 97% of the West Bank. Arafat refused to, and then after storming out, he "chose a path of violence", "resorted to terrorism", "picked violence over peace", something to that effect, these journalists have great vocabularies u know.Arafat since then has been vilified, the second intifada attributed to him, and its consistency since attributed to his support of it/lack of condemnation. Arafat is snubbed and called an "obstacle to peace" by Bush, while Sharon is getting state visits to Washington and hailed as a "man of Peace" by Bush (both are exact quotes). No more peace partner Arafat, Road Map thrown out the window.So what really happened?Clinton in an effort to cement his legacy brought both sides to the table, and sought to enforce a solution. Barak then made this wonderful offer: A fragmented Palestinian state in half of Gaza and 97%of the West Bank. Military checkpoints? Oh, they stay. Israeli settlements? Oh, they stay and are considered a part of Israel. Doesnt that effect the sovereignity of Palestine you say? Why of course it does. Because roads leading to these settlements and checkpoints are controlled by Israel. Considering the depth and location of these settlements, and you have a fragmented state sliced up by settlements, checkpoints and roads. Foreign soveriegnity? Restricted.Foreign Affairs? Controlled by Israel. This is not theories or lies, this is the nature of this offer. The only thing these fuckin newspapers will tell you about the offer was the eye catching 97% figure, Baraks "unprecedented" offer, and Arafats "torpedoing" the process.Of course this fuckin offer was unprecedented. As opposed to the handfuls of shit youve been offering them for the last 50 years, a cup of cofee and a couple of guns would be unprecedented. In essence, as Chomsky and Finkelstein have pointed out, what we would have is a Bantustan, autonomous, fragmented, separated, paralyzed Palestinian ghetto. But hey, its a cheap market for Israeli goods! We would be discussing Arafats death 3 years ago, if he came home with this offer in his pocket. Would make Chamberlain and his letter of peace from Hitler seem trivial in comparison. Which leads us to the aftermath of this failed process, the second intifada attributed to an outright aggressive attempt by Arafat to reek mayhem and shed jewish blood in order to destroy the 3rd biggest nuclear power in the world. One cafe at a time right, ese? . Of course this explanation makes much more sense to logic-deprived quasi-conservative commentators (Hello, Englewood), then the simple fact that this fuckin pathetic excuse for a "peace" offer was THE BEST THEY COULD DO. This is under heavy American pressure to make some sort of a minor concession. If this is the best the Israelis were willing to accept, what the fuck do you want Palestinians to do? Launch a campaign of non violence? Boycott the buses? Million Arab march on Tel Aviv? Of course theyre gonna erupt and go all out, this is not war chump. This is not a fight between two countries, this is a population under ya routine military occupation times 100. This is erasing of an entire people. This is stealing of land, stealing of identity. This is eradication of a culture, this is renaming of villages, this is redrawing of citizenship, this is raping of women, this is indiscriminate killing of civilians, this is torture, this is genocide. This is something your dumb feeble mind dont understand Woodrow Englewood. Youre too predictable, youre articles Tech was laughin at 3 years ago, but youre the little engine that could of TOT, youve gone from just posting articles to actually creating full fledged posts and I commend you for that, but you got a while to go before you bring anything decent to the table when the Middle East is the topic. Siiiin? Now go wipe your ass with that article of yours.
*rubs eyes*Is that Smerlus posting or Englewood? Either way, this idiot completely skips my post and does the same thing my post predicted and criticized. Posting an article that is filled with lies, in an effort to smear the man (post 2000), and again brings up Palestinian violence with no context. Man, I think you have an information glass cieling. I think youve hit your limit. Your brain dont have the capacity to understand what Tech is sayin."Lungs is too small to hot box with God"
Quote from: O.G. Techniec on November 11, 2004, 06:00:07 PM*rubs eyes*Is that Smerlus posting or Englewood? Either way, this idiot completely skips my post and does the same thing my post predicted and criticized. Posting an article that is filled with lies, in an effort to smear the man (post 2000), and again brings up Palestinian violence with no context. Man, I think you have an information glass cieling. I think youve hit your limit. Your brain dont have the capacity to understand what Tech is sayin."Lungs is too small to hot box with God"Shoot. I was expecting another half hour rant...
Quote from: Woodrow on November 11, 2004, 06:01:28 PMQuote from: O.G. Techniec on November 11, 2004, 06:00:07 PM*rubs eyes*Is that Smerlus posting or Englewood? Either way, this idiot completely skips my post and does the same thing my post predicted and criticized. Posting an article that is filled with lies, in an effort to smear the man (post 2000), and again brings up Palestinian violence with no context. Man, I think you have an information glass cieling. I think youve hit your limit. Your brain dont have the capacity to understand what Tech is sayin."Lungs is too small to hot box with God"Shoot. I was expecting another half hour rant...Just admit you out classed woman. How far into my post did you get? Third Sentence? Second Paragraph?