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Quote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 10:05:14 AMQuote from: Mattdrush1 on July 08, 2005, 09:04:29 AMI happened to be Black american who loves Metal. In the vein of Meshuggah, Slipknot, etc... I also grew up on Led Zeppelin, Confunktion, rolling stones, Prince, Isley Brothers etc... My favorite band was Kiss during my preteen years. In my early thirties I love hiphop especially emcees who can spit verbal beatdowns like old Eminem, Chino xl. But when I mention I like Beatles, Rolling Stones, and heavy metal to blacks they say its "white man's music". I could see country to a degree. Because, admit it or not, looking at a country music awards and I've never seen any diversity in their audience. I believe to each his own. I don't see how anyone can say a certain genre is white or black. To me, its about personal taste. Maybe I answered my own question, but rock and roll, country, etc... all comes from the style of blues. Right?It's just as much blackman's music as white man's music. Particularly the Beatles and Stones who started out by playing Blues and RnB (which later became Rock n Roll). Even Country has some roots in the old slave music. In a lot of ways it's both, but to call a type of american music just white or just black is wrong. Metal came primarily from Zeppelin and Zeppelin were greatly influenced and ripped off in some cases, the blues. Look at hip hip, sure it started in the Bronx but most of the samples came from white rock tunes, and even Bob Dylan was doing things simlar to rapping in the 60s. American music is black and white. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a brainwashed racist fool.metal came from steppen wolf and the whole SF pschodelic scene, with elements of what jimi hendrix did, and cream.......the FIRST Metal band was and always has been Sabbath. Led Zeppelin's harder sound came after 1970 when black sabbath came out
Quote from: Mattdrush1 on July 08, 2005, 09:04:29 AMI happened to be Black american who loves Metal. In the vein of Meshuggah, Slipknot, etc... I also grew up on Led Zeppelin, Confunktion, rolling stones, Prince, Isley Brothers etc... My favorite band was Kiss during my preteen years. In my early thirties I love hiphop especially emcees who can spit verbal beatdowns like old Eminem, Chino xl. But when I mention I like Beatles, Rolling Stones, and heavy metal to blacks they say its "white man's music". I could see country to a degree. Because, admit it or not, looking at a country music awards and I've never seen any diversity in their audience. I believe to each his own. I don't see how anyone can say a certain genre is white or black. To me, its about personal taste. Maybe I answered my own question, but rock and roll, country, etc... all comes from the style of blues. Right?It's just as much blackman's music as white man's music. Particularly the Beatles and Stones who started out by playing Blues and RnB (which later became Rock n Roll). Even Country has some roots in the old slave music. In a lot of ways it's both, but to call a type of american music just white or just black is wrong. Metal came primarily from Zeppelin and Zeppelin were greatly influenced and ripped off in some cases, the blues. Look at hip hip, sure it started in the Bronx but most of the samples came from white rock tunes, and even Bob Dylan was doing things simlar to rapping in the 60s. American music is black and white. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a brainwashed racist fool.
I happened to be Black american who loves Metal. In the vein of Meshuggah, Slipknot, etc... I also grew up on Led Zeppelin, Confunktion, rolling stones, Prince, Isley Brothers etc... My favorite band was Kiss during my preteen years. In my early thirties I love hiphop especially emcees who can spit verbal beatdowns like old Eminem, Chino xl. But when I mention I like Beatles, Rolling Stones, and heavy metal to blacks they say its "white man's music". I could see country to a degree. Because, admit it or not, looking at a country music awards and I've never seen any diversity in their audience. I believe to each his own. I don't see how anyone can say a certain genre is white or black. To me, its about personal taste. Maybe I answered my own question, but rock and roll, country, etc... all comes from the style of blues. Right?
Quote from: . on July 08, 2005, 12:56:30 PMlook up David Alan Coe for country music that's some racist shitbut not all country music is like that, only a small percentageDavid Allan Coe is not racist, and most of the racist songs you download by him aren't really by him. He has one song that is definately racist and that's "Nigger Fucker", but it was on an album filled with songs that made fun of everybody and everything. The song says that white women and black men shouldn't be together but his drummer is black and has a white wife. If he was so racist why would he accept that?The Johnny Rebel songs are the racist songs, but even those are comedy. Johnny Rebel was a fictitious artsist in the mid 60s who was actually several different people. The songms were made at a timne where a lot of poor white people were getting the shaft because of Johnson's reforms. Now what Johnson did for blacks was long overdue, but a lot of poor whites didn't agree with having to suffer so people they never personally profited off of can rise up. Right or wrong, they were angry. But none of them were David Allan Coe.
look up David Alan Coe for country music that's some racist shitbut not all country music is like that, only a small percentage
Quote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 04:57:24 PMQuote from: . on July 08, 2005, 12:56:30 PMlook up David Alan Coe for country music that's some racist shitbut not all country music is like that, only a small percentageDavid Allan Coe is not racist, and most of the racist songs you download by him aren't really by him. He has one song that is definately racist and that's "Nigger Fucker", but it was on an album filled with songs that made fun of everybody and everything. The song says that white women and black men shouldn't be together but his drummer is black and has a white wife. If he was so racist why would he accept that?The Johnny Rebel songs are the racist songs, but even those are comedy. Johnny Rebel was a fictitious artsist in the mid 60s who was actually several different people. The songms were made at a timne where a lot of poor white people were getting the shaft because of Johnson's reforms. Now what Johnson did for blacks was long overdue, but a lot of poor whites didn't agree with having to suffer so people they never personally profited off of can rise up. Right or wrong, they were angry. But none of them were David Allan Coe. ummm you must be thinking about someone else cause a friend of mine has a whole cd full of david alan coe and songs like "Leroy the big lipped nigger" "my wife ran off with a nigger" "nigger hating me" "nigger fucker" "Damn i wish i was a nigger" "some niggers never die" and "no nigger in our schools" among otherthese were all unpublished works of his
Quote from: Fear and Loathing in Bakersfield on July 08, 2005, 07:30:28 PMQuote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 10:05:14 AMQuote from: Mattdrush1 on July 08, 2005, 09:04:29 AMI happened to be Black american who loves Metal. In the vein of Meshuggah, Slipknot, etc... I also grew up on Led Zeppelin, Confunktion, rolling stones, Prince, Isley Brothers etc... My favorite band was Kiss during my preteen years. In my early thirties I love hiphop especially emcees who can spit verbal beatdowns like old Eminem, Chino xl. But when I mention I like Beatles, Rolling Stones, and heavy metal to blacks they say its "white man's music". I could see country to a degree. Because, admit it or not, looking at a country music awards and I've never seen any diversity in their audience. I believe to each his own. I don't see how anyone can say a certain genre is white or black. To me, its about personal taste. Maybe I answered my own question, but rock and roll, country, etc... all comes from the style of blues. Right?It's just as much blackman's music as white man's music. Particularly the Beatles and Stones who started out by playing Blues and RnB (which later became Rock n Roll). Even Country has some roots in the old slave music. In a lot of ways it's both, but to call a type of american music just white or just black is wrong. Metal came primarily from Zeppelin and Zeppelin were greatly influenced and ripped off in some cases, the blues. Look at hip hip, sure it started in the Bronx but most of the samples came from white rock tunes, and even Bob Dylan was doing things simlar to rapping in the 60s. American music is black and white. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a brainwashed racist fool.metal came from steppen wolf and the whole SF pschodelic scene, with elements of what jimi hendrix did, and cream.......the FIRST Metal band was and always has been Sabbath. Led Zeppelin's harder sound came after 1970 when black sabbath came out Communication Breakdown and How Many More Times are just as hard as any of Zep's later stuff. It's not as hard as the Sabbath stuff, but it's no Beach Boys. Hard Rock was created with Zeppelin. Did they invent it? Maybe not, but it became big because of them, and that was before the first Sabbath album and before Paranoid.
Quote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 09:12:16 PMQuote from: Fear and Loathing in Bakersfield on July 08, 2005, 07:30:28 PMQuote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 10:05:14 AMQuote from: Mattdrush1 on July 08, 2005, 09:04:29 AMI happened to be Black american who loves Metal. In the vein of Meshuggah, Slipknot, etc... I also grew up on Led Zeppelin, Confunktion, rolling stones, Prince, Isley Brothers etc... My favorite band was Kiss during my preteen years. In my early thirties I love hiphop especially emcees who can spit verbal beatdowns like old Eminem, Chino xl. But when I mention I like Beatles, Rolling Stones, and heavy metal to blacks they say its "white man's music". I could see country to a degree. Because, admit it or not, looking at a country music awards and I've never seen any diversity in their audience. I believe to each his own. I don't see how anyone can say a certain genre is white or black. To me, its about personal taste. Maybe I answered my own question, but rock and roll, country, etc... all comes from the style of blues. Right?It's just as much blackman's music as white man's music. Particularly the Beatles and Stones who started out by playing Blues and RnB (which later became Rock n Roll). Even Country has some roots in the old slave music. In a lot of ways it's both, but to call a type of american music just white or just black is wrong. Metal came primarily from Zeppelin and Zeppelin were greatly influenced and ripped off in some cases, the blues. Look at hip hip, sure it started in the Bronx but most of the samples came from white rock tunes, and even Bob Dylan was doing things simlar to rapping in the 60s. American music is black and white. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a brainwashed racist fool.metal came from steppen wolf and the whole SF pschodelic scene, with elements of what jimi hendrix did, and cream.......the FIRST Metal band was and always has been Sabbath. Led Zeppelin's harder sound came after 1970 when black sabbath came out Communication Breakdown and How Many More Times are just as hard as any of Zep's later stuff. It's not as hard as the Sabbath stuff, but it's no Beach Boys. Hard Rock was created with Zeppelin. Did they invent it? Maybe not, but it became big because of them, and that was before the first Sabbath album and before Paranoid.you just contradicted yourselfhard rock was not created by led zeppelincream, hendrix, steppenwolf, and hell even the yardbirds were hard...before zeppelin dropped their first albums in 69' you're right they did HELP popularlize it but this all besides the piont the first official Metal album was in 1970 Black Sabbath's album "Black Sabbath" track 1 called "Black Sabbath"
man that david allen coe shit is fucking hillarious, stupid fucking white people
^man your opinion really is ignorant, u answered ur own question the reason white people cant make fun of black people for being dirty niggers is because they already lost their privilages to do that( a little thing called slavery). The way gangsta rappers degrade women in their songs is similar but isnt the same because the rappers love certain women but hate bitches. theres a big diff between women and bitches.
Quote from: Fear and Loathing in Bakersfield on July 09, 2005, 02:52:11 AMQuote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 09:12:16 PMQuote from: Fear and Loathing in Bakersfield on July 08, 2005, 07:30:28 PMQuote from: Shallow on July 08, 2005, 10:05:14 AMQuote from: Mattdrush1 on July 08, 2005, 09:04:29 AMI happened to be Black american who loves Metal. In the vein of Meshuggah, Slipknot, etc... I also grew up on Led Zeppelin, Confunktion, rolling stones, Prince, Isley Brothers etc... My favorite band was Kiss during my preteen years. In my early thirties I love hiphop especially emcees who can spit verbal beatdowns like old Eminem, Chino xl. But when I mention I like Beatles, Rolling Stones, and heavy metal to blacks they say its "white man's music". I could see country to a degree. Because, admit it or not, looking at a country music awards and I've never seen any diversity in their audience. I believe to each his own. I don't see how anyone can say a certain genre is white or black. To me, its about personal taste. Maybe I answered my own question, but rock and roll, country, etc... all comes from the style of blues. Right?It's just as much blackman's music as white man's music. Particularly the Beatles and Stones who started out by playing Blues and RnB (which later became Rock n Roll). Even Country has some roots in the old slave music. In a lot of ways it's both, but to call a type of american music just white or just black is wrong. Metal came primarily from Zeppelin and Zeppelin were greatly influenced and ripped off in some cases, the blues. Look at hip hip, sure it started in the Bronx but most of the samples came from white rock tunes, and even Bob Dylan was doing things simlar to rapping in the 60s. American music is black and white. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a brainwashed racist fool.metal came from steppen wolf and the whole SF pschodelic scene, with elements of what jimi hendrix did, and cream.......the FIRST Metal band was and always has been Sabbath. Led Zeppelin's harder sound came after 1970 when black sabbath came out Communication Breakdown and How Many More Times are just as hard as any of Zep's later stuff. It's not as hard as the Sabbath stuff, but it's no Beach Boys. Hard Rock was created with Zeppelin. Did they invent it? Maybe not, but it became big because of them, and that was before the first Sabbath album and before Paranoid.you just contradicted yourselfhard rock was not created by led zeppelincream, hendrix, steppenwolf, and hell even the yardbirds were hard...before zeppelin dropped their first albums in 69' you're right they did HELP popularlize it but this all besides the piont the first official Metal album was in 1970 Black Sabbath's album "Black Sabbath" track 1 called "Black Sabbath"I didn't contradict myself. Elvis didn't create rock n roll but if it weren't for him it wouldn't have come out until years later.Cream was a blues rock band every step of the way, and so was Steppenwolf, and the Yard Birds. Hendrix was great Rock n Roll with a touch of blues that is more or less it's own genre. The Hard Rock formula Zeppelin created was the reason bands like Deep Purple ever got a record deal. Zepelin's formula is 100% responsible for just about every hair metal band in the 80s. I don't say they created it because it's such a bold statement. Who invented rock n roll? There are so many answers. Some say it was originally Robert Johnson, or Howlin' Wolf, others say it was Hank Williams with songs like Bring it on Over, and some say it truly didn't become rock and roll until Elvis brought both hte RnB and Country together on his adaptation of That's Alright. There is no definte answer. Eddy Van Halen didn't "invent" tapping, but he's responsible for it. You know what I mean, it's like adopting a new born baby and raising it to become US President. The birth parents may have created him, but the credit will go to the adoptive parents that raised him.Trauma; You're pathetic.
all bands pre 80's were blues based, hell even zeppelin was more blues than most other bands out.....just look at jimmy page's scale structure .......Led Zeppelin became the biggest hard rock band but they DEFINATELY weren't the reason for the genre getting big....cuz it was already big before they were even starting to get that hard. Zeppelin didn't really blow up with their hard sound until AFTER many many many OTHER hard rock acts came out.....so i don't know what you're trying to argue here, first Zeppelin was the reason for Metal? wrong. then zeppelin was the reason for Hard Rock? wrong. now they're the reason why the genre got big? wrong......it was ALREADY big when Zeppelin were coming up.
and LOL at Eddie Van Halen not inventing tapping...sorry sir but yes he did. that's what made eruption so amazing people thought he had a twelive inch pinky to be able to hamer on pull off on the 2 -5 and 12 at the same time