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Re: West coast.
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2008, 01:48:14 PM »
Meech Wells is the savior of the West Coast. We should call him Meech West.
 

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2008, 02:12:50 PM »
california>the world...act like you know
also its not like the eastcoast got anything hot goin right now...the rap game is in a slump right now...itll pull through....hopefully




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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2008, 02:37:13 PM »
(West Coast) Hip-Hop is dead.
not as dead as DIPSET....

WC rap is still dope.  Not as much material comes out from the westcoast, but it aint gimmicky watered down bullshit thats on BET and on the radio.
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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2008, 04:12:33 PM »
The West Coast forum is dead because everyone talks about the past or putting their faith in modern day artists that are trash.

I get the feeling image is more important than dope music.
IMO, the best album from 2007, shit, probably the best album in the last 5 years came from a little known westcoast emcee, and he doesn't get the props because of his image.

At the end of the day, people would rather talk about cats like Spider Loc, Game or when Crooked I's grandson's releasing his new record, than giving props to the real artists like Murs, and up and comers like Blu & Exile.

Shit's disgusting, it's Outbound or nothing.
 

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2008, 04:14:52 PM »
^^ Evidence released a damn good record last year,  but nobody is discussing it over there.


Are you gonna get responses about him, u have to make the thread in the Outbond

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2008, 04:20:04 PM »
^^ Evidence released a damn good record last year,  but nobody is discussing it over there.


Are you gonna get responses about him, u have to make the thread in the Outbond

You're right, Evidence had some nice cuts on that record.

Eddie posted up a bulletin about Murs not so long ago, and I found it sunk down the bottom of the page without a reply.

I rarely check the forum, maybe once a month now, which is a shame because there are some decent mc's that I am probably sleeping on, but I can't deal with filtering through the bullshit to find that.

It's Outbound and WTR blog for me in the last months, that's how I got put on cats like Blu & Exile, and that record is just insane.
 

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2008, 04:28:51 PM »
^^ Evidence released a damn good record last year,  but nobody is discussing it over there.


Are you gonna get responses about him, u have to make the thread in the Outbond

You're right, Evidence had some nice cuts on that record.

Eddie posted up a bulletin about Murs not so long ago, and I found it sunk down the bottom of the page without a reply.

I rarely check the forum, maybe once a month now, which is a shame because there are some decent mc's that I am probably sleeping on, but I can't deal with filtering through the bullshit to find that.

It's Outbound and WTR blog for me in the last months, that's how I got put on cats like Blu & Exile, and that record is just insane.
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Re: West coast.
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2008, 04:34:05 PM »
i agree you have to sift through the bullshit in the westcoast section,but the same shit goes for outbound....replace spider loc with weezy and you have outbound
 

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2008, 04:35:58 PM »
also kain should be pissed @ whoever swagger jacked his auto-play needs to step his game up
 

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 03:08:30 AM »
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Re: West coast.
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2008, 03:41:55 AM »
The West Coast forum is dead because everyone talks about the past or putting their faith in modern day artists that are trash.
At the end of the day, people would rather talk about cats like Spider Loc, Game or when Crooked I's grandson's releasing his new record, than giving props to the real artists like Murs, and up and comers like Blu & Exile.
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit

There you go, that's probably the point on here. I just think that most people on here registered cause they were into the guns-bitches-chrome-weed type west coast rap whose golden age happens to be the early to mid-90's. Most people on this board don't associate the west coast with Blackalicious, Murs and Dilated Peoples, but with Snoop, Dre and Kurupt...there's nothing wrong with that actually, those guys happen to have made some all-time classics, but this type of west coast rap has hardly made a noise in the last 5 years and on account of that you probably get a board full of reminiscent threads about Death Row and DPG and when it comes to more recent issues, Spider Loc is honored for celebrating the 250th anniversary of his album being pushed back. I'm not trying to offend people, but I think it's explicable.

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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 03:54:06 AM »
Just to name a few threads that are on the first page at the moment.

1) How Much Money Would You Put on Spider Loc's Head?

2) Does The Game remind u of 2PAC????

3) Real talk: When is Spiders album droppin? [From his biggest fan]

4) Games Mom vs your friendly Neighbahood pt 2 Video Inside

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 03:59:29 AM »
Just to name a few threads that are on the first page at the moment.

1) How Much Money Would You Put on Spider Loc's Head?

2) Does The Game remind u of 2PAC????

3) Real talk: When is Spiders album droppin? [From his biggest fan]

4) Games Mom vs your friendly Neighbahood pt 2 Video Inside

 :raisetheroof:

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2008, 04:12:43 AM »
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0

^^^^^^^^^^^
READ
You´ll find all your "favorite" artists in there.

Why don´t guys go ahead and join the thread above ^^^^^.... instead.
I see you guys complaining about no threads about Evidence,Blu & Exile etc.
If really got something to say,why don´t say it?
Sure all those spider threads could be merged,deleted or what not.
But there´s a couple of legit threads in the West Coast section,so don´t act like the outbound section is any better.

Yeah, I did read it, a good thread right there. props for linking it
But hold up, the Outbound is atleast 10 times better

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2008, 04:58:57 AM »
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0

^^^^^^^^^^^
READ
You´ll find all your "favorite" artists in there.

Why don´t guys go ahead and join the thread above ^^^^^.... instead.
I see you guys complaining about no threads about Evidence,Blu & Exile etc.
If really got something to say,why don´t say it?
Sure all those spider threads could be merged,deleted or what not.
But there´s a couple of legit threads in the West Coast section,so don´t act like the outbound section is any better.

Yeah, I did read it, a good thread right there. props for linking it
But hold up, the Outbound is atleast 10 times better

Please explain how come the outbound section is better,
there´s the same amount off quality posters active in both section,or less if you ask me.
And you find equal artists on all coasts;
Jay-Z,50 and Lil Wayne is the same shit as Snoop,Game and Spider Loc if you ask me.
Posters like Tanji,HighEyeCue,D-Nice and Dre-Day have put in mad work in the west coast section.
I would say they´re all among maybe the top posters on dubCC.
Sure the East Coast section got Luna,eazye and QT,but that´s about it.
Don´t bring me the joke of poster Tommy Fits,he managed to chase out one of our best members; Tanji.
Timbo AKA The Gossip King? eeeh,gossip and pop rap is his game!  >:( :P

Don´t make me get my "grump" on!!!!  ;) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Haha, maybe it's personal meaning, west coast music just don't appeal to me as much as it used to. (The new Yuk is bangin, though)
Sure, T, HighIQ, D and Dre are good posters, but they get swamped in all those wack posters who just listens to DPG or DR from that 90's
Meho aka Timbo hook up alot of dope shit I like, u might not like it, but I do ;)
Outbound is just more mature (overall) than the wc section.

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2008, 05:17:42 AM »
westcoast section:
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outbound:
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21307 Topic

so in absolute values there may be a difference, but not in relative values. and yes that's subjective offcourse.

so i disagree with this:

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Outbound is just more mature (overall) than the wc section.

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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2008, 06:28:20 AM »
I think there's more good stuff than a lot of you think, but people are scared to check out names they don't know...

I'm aware of the fact that the West has been struggling for years, but like someone else pointed out, Hip-Hop in general is struggling, and the whole music industry is changing. People love negativity, that's why they're stuck on talking about Spider, it's not because they like Spider or whatever it's just because people love talking about controversial stuff, just like when Kurupt was on Death Row all people talked about was the Daz/Kurupt beef, or later the Game/G-unit beef...

There's still a lot of good stuff in the West Coast section, I see so many people complaining about the "good" topics not getting many replies, but I doubt that those of you who like those topics reply to them either, just because of the fact that they don't get a lot of replies.. Everybody loves to complain, but for it to change it's gotta start with you...

I wrote more than I meant to, but to sum it up, I definitely agree with you guys, but I just think that leaving the West Coast section isn't gonna help it... You know?
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Re: West coast.
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2008, 06:36:10 AM »
^^On Point NIma!!
I try to responds to a lot of the threads on the WC section,..Especially when i comes to new artist!
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Re: West coast.
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2008, 07:15:44 AM »
I love the westcoast section but hopefully this Spider Loc shit is just a fad I thought it was funny in the beginning but now its got out of hand :(

lately I've been in the porn section more than anything

 

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« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2008, 07:19:16 AM »
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negative
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adj.

   1.
         1. Expressing, containing, or consisting of a negation, refusal, or denial: gave a negative answer to our request.
         2. Indicating opposition or resistance: a negative reaction to the new advertising campaign.
   2. Lacking positive or constructive features, especially:
         1. Unpleasant; disagreeable: had a negative experience on his first job.
         2. Gloomy; pessimistic: a negative outlook.
         3. Unfavorable or detrimental: a negative review; a negative effect on the child's development.
         4. Hostile or disparaging; malicious: ran a negative campaign against her opponent.
   3. Medicine. Not indicating the presence of a particular disease, condition, or organism.
   4. Logic. Designating a proposition that denies agreement between a subject and its predicate.
   5. Mathematics.
         1. Of or relating to a quantity less than zero.
         2. Of or relating to the sign (−).
         3. Of or relating to a quantity to be subtracted from another.
         4. Of or relating to a quantity, number, angle, velocity, or direction in a sense opposite to another of the same magnitude indicated or understood to be positive.
   6. Physics.
         1. Of or relating to an electric charge of the same sign as that of an electron, indicated by the symbol (−).
         2. Of or relating to a body having an excess of electrons.
   7. Chemistry. Of or relating to an ion, the anion, that is attracted to a positive electrode.
   8. Biology. Moving or turning away from a stimulus, such as light: a negative tropism.

n.

   1. A statement or act indicating or expressing a contradiction, denial, or refusal.
   2.
         1. A statement or act that is highly critical of another or of others: campaign advertising that was based solely on negatives.
         2. Something that lacks all positive, affirmative, or encouraging features; an element that is the counterpoint of the positive: “Life is full of overwhelming odds. You can't really eliminate the negatives but you can diminish them” (Art Linkletter).
         3. A feature or characteristic that is not deemed positive, affirmative, or desirable: “As voters get to know his liberal views, his negatives will rise” (Richard M. Nixon).
   3. Grammar. A word or part of a word, such as no, not, or non-, that indicates negation. See Usage Note at double negative.
   4. The side in a debate that contradicts or opposes the question being debated.
   5.
         1. An image in which the light areas of the object rendered appear dark and the dark areas appear light.
         2. A film, plate, or other photographic material containing such an image.
   6. Mathematics. A negative quantity.

tr.v., -tived, -tiv·ing, -tives.

   1. To refuse to approve; veto.
   2. To deny; contradict.
   3. To demonstrate to be false; disprove.
   4. To counteract or neutralize.

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criticize
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v., -cized, -ciz·ing, -ciz·es.

v.tr.

   1. To find fault with: criticized the decision as unrealistic. See Usage Note at critique.
   2. To judge the merits and faults of; analyze and evaluate.

v.intr.

To act as a critic.
criticizable crit'i·ciz'a·ble adj.
criticizer crit'i·ciz'er n.

SYNONYMS  criticize, blame, reprehend, censure, condemn, denounce. These verbs mean to express an unfavorable judgment. Criticize can mean merely to evaluate without necessarily finding fault; however, usually the word implies the expression of disapproval: The review criticized the novel. Blame emphasizes the finding of fault and the fixing of responsibility: “People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are” (George Bernard Shaw). Reprehend implies sharp disapproval: “reprehends students who have protested apartheid” (New York Times). Censure refers to open and strong expression of criticism; often it implies a formal reprimand: “No man can justly censure or condemn another, because indeed no man truly knows another” (Thomas Browne). Condemn denotes the pronouncement of harshly adverse judgment: “The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant and so devastating that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored because it cannot survive their being repeated” (Robert H. Jackson). Denoun


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adj.

   1. Serving to improve or advance; helpful: constructive criticism.
   2. Of or relating to construction; structural.
   3. Law. Based on an interpretation; not directly expressed.

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but for it to change it's gotta start with you...
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Re: West coast.
« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2008, 09:54:00 AM »
(West Coast) Hip-Hop is dead.

Yeah, but people in the WC section refuse to believe that. They either stuck in 90's, believe Detox is still gonna drop, or think Bishop Lamont's gonna make a difference. Either way, they're living a lie.

 

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2008, 02:55:58 PM »
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0

^^^^^^^^^^^
READ
You´ll find all your "favorite" artists in there.

Why don´t guys go ahead and join the thread above ^^^^^.... instead.
I see you guys complaining about no threads about Evidence,Blu & Exile etc.
If really got something to say,why don´t say it?
Sure all those spider threads could be merged,deleted or what not.
But there´s a couple of legit threads in the West Coast section,so don´t act like the outbound section is any better.

Yeah, I did read it, a good thread right there. props for linking it
But hold up, the Outbound is atleast 10 times better

Please explain how come the outbound section is better,
there´s the same amount off quality posters active in both section,or less if you ask me.
And you find equal artists on all coasts;
Jay-Z,50 and Lil Wayne is the same shit as Snoop,Game and Spider Loc if you ask me.
Posters like Tanji,HighEyeCue,D-Nice and Dre-Day have put in mad work in the west coast section.
I would say they´re all among maybe the top posters on dubCC.
Sure the East Coast section got Luna,eazye and QT,but that´s about it.
Don´t bring me the joke of poster Tommy Fits,he managed to chase out one of our best members; Tanji.
Timbo AKA The Gossip King? eeeh,gossip and pop rap is his game!  >:( :P

Don´t make me get my "grump" on!!!!  ;) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Haha, maybe it's personal meaning,west coast music just don't appeal to me as much as it used to.
(The new Yuk is bangin, though)
Sure, T, HighIQ, D and Dre are good posters,
but they get swamped in all those wack posters who just listens to DPG or DR from that 90's
Meho aka Timbo hook up alot of dope shit I like, u might not like it, but I do ;)
Outbound is just more mature (overall) than the wc section.


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Outbound is just more mature (overall) than the wc section.

I don´t agree,as I said;
QT and eazye know their shit,I´m suprised and overwhelmed by their knowledge by shit they shouldn´t have the slightest clue about.
They´re both around 17 and are both can boast knowledge about Ced Gee,45 King,Marley Marl and cats like John Bido from the south.
That right there warms my heart. Music is music,quality posts means input not gossip.  ;)
I respect your personal view on the west coast scene at the moment,
but I´m sure if you dig a little a deeper and check out some of the artists mentioned here;
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0
you might change your opinion?
....and ohhh I need the new Yuk album.  ;)




Yeah yeah, I see what you're saying and I've checked that thread.
I listen to some Westcoast shit like Blu & Exile, J5, Yuk, Dilated, Murs, Crooked and of course the classics

I think there's more good stuff than a lot of you think, but people are scared to check out names they don't know...

I'm aware of the fact that the West has been struggling for years, but like someone else pointed out, Hip-Hop in general is struggling, and the whole music industry is changing. People love negativity, that's why they're stuck on talking about Spider, it's not because they like Spider or whatever it's just because people love talking about controversial stuff, just like when Kurupt was on Death Row all people talked about was the Daz/Kurupt beef, or later the Game/G-unit beef...

There's still a lot of good stuff in the West Coast section, I see so many people complaining about the "good" topics not getting many replies, but I doubt that those of you who like those topics reply to them either, just because of the fact that they don't get a lot of replies.. Everybody loves to complain, but for it to change it's gotta start with you...

I wrote more than I meant to, but to sum it up, I definitely agree with you guys, but I just think that leaving the West Coast section isn't gonna help it... You know?

Yeah, I see u Nima, personally - I'm not scared to check out some new artists.
And yeah, the whole Hip-Hop culture is strugglin, shit the whole industry is in a dump now  :-\

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Re: West coast.
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2008, 03:22:20 PM »
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0

^^^^^^^^^^^
READ
You´ll find all your "favorite" artists in there.

Why don´t guys go ahead and join the thread above ^^^^^.... instead.
I see you guys complaining about no threads about Evidence,Blu & Exile etc.
If really got something to say,why don´t say it?
Sure all those spider threads could be merged,deleted or what not.
But there´s a couple of legit threads in the West Coast section,so don´t act like the outbound section is any better.

Yeah, I did read it, a good thread right there. props for linking it
But hold up, the Outbound is atleast 10 times better

Please explain how come the outbound section is better,
there´s the same amount off quality posters active in both section,or less if you ask me.
And you find equal artists on all coasts;
Jay-Z,50 and Lil Wayne is the same shit as Snoop,Game and Spider Loc if you ask me.
Posters like Tanji,HighEyeCue,D-Nice and Dre-Day have put in mad work in the west coast section.
I would say they´re all among maybe the top posters on dubCC.
Sure the East Coast section got Luna,eazye and QT,but that´s about it.
Don´t bring me the joke of poster Tommy Fits,he managed to chase out one of our best members; Tanji.
Timbo AKA The Gossip King? eeeh,gossip and pop rap is his game!  >:( :P

Don´t make me get my "grump" on!!!!  ;) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Haha, maybe it's personal meaning,west coast music just don't appeal to me as much as it used to.
(The new Yuk is bangin, though)
Sure, T, HighIQ, D and Dre are good posters,
but they get swamped in all those wack posters who just listens to DPG or DR from that 90's
Meho aka Timbo hook up alot of dope shit I like, u might not like it, but I do ;)
Outbound is just more mature (overall) than the wc section.


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Outbound is just more mature (overall) than the wc section.

I don´t agree,as I said;
QT and eazye know their shit,I´m suprised and overwhelmed by their knowledge by shit they shouldn´t have the slightest clue about.
They´re both around 17 and are both can boast knowledge about Ced Gee,45 King,Marley Marl and cats like John Bido from the south.
That right there warms my heart. Music is music,quality posts means input not gossip.  ;)
I respect your personal view on the west coast scene at the moment,
but I´m sure if you dig a little a deeper and check out some of the artists mentioned here;
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0
you might change your opinion?
....and ohhh I need the new Yuk album.  ;)







I think there's more good stuff than a lot of you think, but people are scared to check out names they don't know...

The truth... no need to name drop any more than I have already done in here;
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money,redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0
...and yes there´s also new and up coming dope "gangster rappers".

People love negativity, that's why they're stuck on talking about Spider, it's not because they like Spider or whatever it's just because people love talking about controversial stuff, just like when Kurupt was on Death Row all people talked about was the Daz/Kurupt beef, or later the Game/G-unit beef...

In other words gossip  :P ;)

There's still a lot of good stuff in the West Coast section,
I see so many people complaining about the "good" topics not getting many replies,
but I doubt that those of you who like those topics reply to them either,
just because of the fact that they don't get a lot of replies..

yep,why not come up with something constructive instead.
I bumped;
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money,redundant gangsta bullshit
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0
why ain´t your big mouths in there talking about all your "favorite" rappers?
oooohhhh your mouths ain´t so big now.  >:( :P :-\


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Yeah yeah, I see what you're saying and I've checked that thread.
I listen to some Westcoast shit like Blu & Exile, J5, Yuk, Dilated, Murs, Crooked and of course the classics

You can listen to whatever you want for me,I wont stop you  ;) :P :laugh:;)
What I´m saying is that if you guys want to talk about certain artists like those you mentioned above,then why don´t you?
I bumped the;
Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit thread
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155705.0
but hardly any reply´s,was it all talk and no action?
Can´t just sit around complaining about this and that without taking any constructive action.
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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2008, 05:23:00 PM »
^^Chad, you are on point about that. I'm just as guilty of it as everybody else, but we do a lot of complaining about how nobody is making quality music and let it go unnoticed when a great album is dropped. There was a lot of good music talked about in that thread, but it's only two pages. Stupid videos with Spider Loc and 40 Glocc groupie arguments get 5 pages and more, just because the statements are so outrageous.
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Re: West coast.
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2008, 05:30:50 PM »
As Nima has said and others agree - any deprecation in the westcoast section is down to true and loyal forum members not posting as much   as they could in threads that could be overshadowing poorer other topics...the amount of stuff that gets overlooked due to people not replying is immense and that is where the problem lies!

Reply to the important, decent topics and ignore the crap...guess what is gonna happen?

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