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« on: December 23, 2002, 03:38:03 PM »
I know this has been talked about alot, but I just watched a documentary on an Irish woman who is living in the palestinian refugee camp in genin, and it was so interesting that I had to post about it.
She did not agree with the violent factions of the palestinians, but she visitied areas where the families and NEIGHBOURS of known terrorists had their houses demolished, their lives wrecked. The cameras showed one occasion where she was helping remove the injured from a small village being attacked and soldiers where shooting straight at her, a humanitarian worker. She had to walk children to school to protect them, because it was less likely they would be shot at in the company of a white european. It was sad to see what is actually happening and then to see the attitudes of people in here who believe that israel are only trying to defend themselves. I Geezy, I understand where you come from, and I respect some of your points, but there is no excuse for what I saw with my own eyes tonight. Just like theres no excuse for suicide bombers.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2002, 03:57:52 PM »
Israel is fed up with all these suicide bombings going on everyday...What are they supposed to do? U tell me...PeACe
 

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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2002, 12:27:09 AM »
withdraw from the west bank and gaza? dismantle settlements?
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2002, 08:41:04 AM »
certainly not go purposly killing civilians, children and humanitarian workers. That makes you even worse than the palestinian suicide bombers.
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2002, 10:17:29 AM »
Don't worry, the people (most people) in the u.s. realize they're doing this stuff... if that's any condolense.  I think both sides are trippin.  Basically you've got palestinians blowing up whoever they can,a nd they don't care if there's children involved, and then you've got Israeli soldiers shooting everybody they see, knowingly shooting children, etc.  Neither one of them's in the right.  
 

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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2002, 12:19:53 PM »
Israel is fed up with all these suicide bombings going on everyday...What are they supposed to do? U tell me...PeACe
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2002, 12:52:19 PM »
certainly not go purposly killing civilians, children and humanitarian workers. That makes you even worse than the palestinian suicide bombers.



If they don't do that, then there will be more and more suicide bombings everyday...We have to stop them SOME way...We tried many different things, but they just KEEP going like an energizer...They're fuckin barbarians...And Tech, the West Bank and Gaza Strip belong to the Palastiniens...What are you saying?...PeACe
 

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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2002, 10:25:05 AM »
so u think killing their children will make the bombers less angry, and less inclined to kill those they hold responsible?
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2002, 01:09:23 PM »
so u think killing their children will make the bombers less angry, and less inclined to kill those they hold responsible?



An eye for an eye...They kill our children (on a regular basis) we kill theirs (once in a blue moon)...PeACe
 

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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2002, 08:27:27 PM »
so u think killing their children will make the bombers less angry, and less inclined to kill those they hold responsible?



An eye for an eye...They kill our children (on a regular basis) we kill theirs (once in a blue moon)...PeACe

^ thats the same way they think...isnt it ironic...dont u think?
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2002, 02:01:49 AM »
so u think killing their children will make the bombers less angry, and less inclined to kill those they hold responsible?



An eye for an eye...They kill our children (on a regular basis) we kill theirs (once in a blue moon)...PeACe

^ thats the same way they think...isnt it ironic...dont u think?



Israel is obviously killing in retaliation...LoL...PeACe
 

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2002, 02:26:03 AM »
uhhhhhhh, daym, Israeli soldiers shooting at cevillians for no reason?....doesn't it seem a little illogical? umm, u're sure u're not forgetting some riot with Israeli forces being atacked, and kids being pushed to the frontline by their parents(throwing stones at soldiers, after their families been payed by certain organizations) to help out the anti Israeli propoganda, man....it's funny u're saying the media where u live at is objective, also funny how people say that  things are being hidden from cameras, while in fact, it seems like the so called Palestinian view point is all that's being shown on cameras, this is radiculous. Plus, this women is supposebly an idiot, what is she trying to prove? a humanitarian....hmmm ok, Im wondering weather she ever had a chance to help out a dieing Palestinian terrorist, I also found a little contrediction in what u said, first it sayes "Israeli forces won't atack a so called "white skined european"(also drawing an analogy to NAZIs btw, a very objective article in did) but  first u say she was being shot straight at her...as for terrorists families being evicted from their homes and their homes being crushed,well, there is no other way to intimidate brainwashed radicals who don't care to die, plus it aint like their mothers and fathers dont say "if we had ten more sons we would send them to do the same" I wonder weather this has been shown on your TV....daym...

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oh, and so I won't forget, Israel isn't doing anything BUT trying to protect itself....

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2002, 11:21:50 AM »
uhhhhhhh, daym, Israeli soldiers shooting at cevillians for no reason?....doesn't it seem a little illogical? umm, u're sure u're not forgetting some riot with Israeli forces being atacked, and kids being pushed to the frontline by their parents(throwing stones at soldiers, after their families been payed by certain organizations) to help out the anti Israeli propoganda, man....it's funny u're saying the media where u live at is objective, also funny how people say that  things are being hidden from cameras, while in fact, it seems like the so called Palestinian view point is all that's being shown on cameras, this is radiculous. Plus, this women is supposebly an idiot, what is she trying to prove? a humanitarian....hmmm ok, Im wondering weather she ever had a chance to help out a dieing Palestinian terrorist, I also found a little contrediction in what u said, first it sayes "Israeli forces won't atack a so called "white skined european"(also drawing an analogy to NAZIs btw, a very objective article in did) but  first u say she was being shot straight at her...as for terrorists families being evicted from their homes and their homes being crushed,well, there is no other way to intimidate brainwashed radicals who don't care to die, plus it aint like their mothers and fathers dont say "if we had ten more sons we would send them to do the same" I wonder weather this has been shown on your TV....daym...

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oh, and so I won't forget, Israel isn't doing anything BUT trying to protect itself....





Yea...Most of these anti-israel articles being posted here are BS...I've seen a couple of outrageous ones...LoL...PeACe
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2002, 11:45:17 AM »
Would you say that since Israel has started to go into Palestinian settlements with tanks and try and root out these terrorists, the level of Palestinian suicude bombings has risen or fallen?

 

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2002, 12:09:51 PM »
Would you say that since Israel has started to go into Palestinian settlements with tanks and try and root out these terrorists, the level of Palestinian suicude bombings has risen or fallen?

Good question, u're a good debater, well to answer it, I should say that the level of the suicide bombings has been changing since the Intifaada started, but it seems like the executed terroristic atackes have little to prove since the prevented atacks' number was astronomiclly high(proven, and known as a fact, due to all the labz that were revealed, terrorists that have been disabled, and weapons that were found).
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2002, 02:13:18 PM »
hey well with the US bassicly getting a jewish president in 2004 im sure you guys will get more than anything you want and will be able to start the arab elimination process. i wouldnt doubt it if there already is a plan called that
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2002, 06:05:14 PM »
hey well with the US bassicly getting a jewish president in 2004 im sure you guys will get more than anything you want and will be able to start the arab elimination process. i wouldnt doubt it if there already is a plan called that


I don't think we want them eliminated...We just want them to stop bugging us...PeACe
 

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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2002, 06:09:31 PM »
We just want them to stop bugging us...PeACe

Ok then

1)  Stop going into their settlements with tanks and blowing up their homes
2) Give them a fair amount of the land they had before 1949 back.

See if the level of suicide bombings doesn't drastically reduce.
 

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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2002, 06:31:45 PM »
We just want them to stop bugging us...PeACe

Ok then

1)  Stop going into their settlements with tanks and blowing up their homes
2) Give them a fair amount of the land they had before 1949 back.

See if the level of suicide bombings doesn't drastically reduce.



1.You think if we stopped blowing up their homes, they'd stop suicide bombing us? uhhhh, NO!

2.Israel is real small. I doubt they'll be giving up land anytime soon...PeACe
 

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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2002, 06:37:01 PM »
Give the Palestinians a country, where you can't send your tanks in and blow up their homes, and they can't get across the border and blow buses up.  Are you telling me that the level of terrorist attacks won't fall greatly?
 

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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2002, 06:39:01 PM »
Give the Palestinians a country, where you can't send your tanks in and blow up their homes, and they can't get across the border and blow buses up.  Are you telling me that the level of terrorist attacks won't fall greatly?



why the hell do u think Israel is blowing up Palastinien homes? For fun? hahahahahahaha...
 

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« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2002, 06:50:30 PM »
No.

I notice you didn't actually respond to what I said, so I'll give you another chance:


"Give the Palestinians a country, where you can't send your tanks in and blow up their homes, and they can't get across the border and blow buses up.  Are you telling me that the level of terrorist attacks won't fall greatly?"
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2002, 01:08:22 AM »
may I answer this?!- ok, I think I'll just answer it 8)....u see, this is the problem, If we Do give them what they want, Like Ehud Barak was trying to do on Camp David with his 97% of their demand, there is no guarantee they are not gonna want the rest as well(and if they gonna, we will have a much less comfortable start point to fight them) , I mean, to US Israeli's it became so clear after Camp David,  I admit that it's what the right wingers were claiming for so long, It was sad to see they were right. U really believe the Intifaada started only cause sharon visited "Har Habait"?! They were actually planing it since Camp David, They don't want us here, they simpy don't want Israel by the side of this so called Palestinian state, if they simply wanted a country they could've had it long time ago over the territory they do have, how come you people forget Camp David, they were offered fuckin 97% of what they seemed wanting and they declined, why, why do u think they declined?
NIK said it simple but right, why the fuck we pushing tanks in, why the fuck we taking terrorists homes down, for fun?....if they settled in a state without pulling dirty tricks no one would wanna stick a tank in there, Israel does want peace, u know....reasoning the fact they dun want a country we can invade with a  tank, is a poor reason.
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2002, 02:01:10 PM »
hey well with the US bassicly getting a jewish president in 2004 im sure you guys will get more than anything you want and will be able to start the arab elimination process. i wouldnt doubt it if there already is a plan called that

lol so true so true
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2002, 02:03:09 PM »
may I answer this?!- ok, I think I'll just answer it 8)....u see, this is the problem, If we Do give them what they want, Like Ehud Barak was trying to do on Camp David with his 97% of their demand, there is no guarantee they are not gonna want the rest as well(and if they gonna, we will have a much less comfortable start point to fight them) , I mean, to US Israeli's it became so clear after Camp David,  I admit that it's what the right wingers were claiming for so long, It was sad to see they were right. U really believe the Intifaada started only cause sharon visited "Har Habait"?! They were actually planing it since Camp David, They don't want us here, they simpy don't want Israel by the side of this so called Palestinian state, if they simply wanted a country they could've had it long time ago over the territory they do have, how come you people forget Camp David, they were offered fuckin 97% of what they seemed wanting and they declined, why, why do u think they declined?
NIK said it simple but right, why the fuck we pushing tanks in, why the fuck we taking terrorists homes down, for fun?....if they settled in a state without pulling dirty tricks no one would wanna stick a tank in there, Israel does want peace, u know....reasoning the fact they dun want a country we can invade with a  tank, is a poor reason.

i geezy dont bring up camp david, u must know how flawed ehud baraks offer was....and u know its as simple as just giving them their land, u jews got your land, then u turn around and deny others theirs....its like every victim has to be an oppressor
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