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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 08:56:57 AM »
not bad but it's not touching That's My Bitch or The Joy (and I'm having doubts the latter is going to end up on the album)

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 09:22:19 AM »
what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.

Totally agree.  They're trying too hard. 
 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 09:51:43 AM »
I like it. I actually find the beat, especially the last part, quite epic.
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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 10:32:22 AM »
Not a bad song...


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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 11:28:28 AM »
what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.

Totally agree.  They're trying too hard. 
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« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2011, 12:39:51 PM »
Holy shit, this is awful.

Im a massive Kanye fan but what the fuck is his verse about. The beat is terrible. Just sounds like its been thrown together using some futuristic shit and some opera shit. But it doesnt go very well at all.

Jesus this is so bad. It sounds like a bad mixtape track.

Awful.
 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2011, 01:28:42 PM »
what the fuck? this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit together, too all over the place and wack.

Totally agree.  They're trying too hard. 
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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2011, 01:48:17 PM »
this is so awkwardly overproduced, those corny drums and the dramatic opera shit...
this..


yep.

My initial though on first listen...especially when the chorus kicks in, was that the operatic hook sample doesn't even fit with the beat. The whole backing music in the track throughout is disjointed and, to be honest, an absolute mess.

Kanye's verse is horrendous aswell. It sounds like the slurring of a lazy, drunk child. Nonsense. Jay-Z's verse is decent but its not enough to save the song, for me.

Overall its a 4 out of 10 song AT BEST. A thumbs down.
 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 01:57:56 PM »
Reminds me of "General Patton", which is a good thing cuz that song is hard! So is this. Thumbs up from me 8)
 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 02:05:19 PM »
So, I'm listening to the beat and the first verse with Kanye comes on.  It's aight.  I'm not really impressed but then the chorus comes in and the beat explodes.  That's when I'm feeling it.  Ye's verse is over and Jay does what he does best which is consistently fresh hip-hop.  Honestly,  Jay should've stole the track for himself cause he wrecks it.

The production is fresh due to it's build into orchestration.  


Basically, the continuation of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.  It's ill.  Hip-Hop!

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ye adopted a southern flow.  it's not great but it wasn't as bad as y'all is making out to be. plus, the song is about going ham.  What's hard to understand about that? 

Y'all ain't pick up the shots Jay throwing out?  Let me break it down:

Reality check on Baby & Lil Wayne,
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Really you got baby money
Keep it real with niggas, niggas ain't got my lady money

A possible fuck you @ 50,
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Bow down, brother pay homage
Don't spill hate all on my garments
Commes des Garçon, fuck your fresh
Head shots, nigga, fuck your vests
Fuck the pig, no pork on my fork

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 02:53:37 PM »
i dont wonna hear kanye rapin

Neither do I, and I don't want to hear him rapping any more either..

When Jay used that "Huh"-gimmick, it sounded semi-retarded, so he apparently stopped using it.

Now Kanye is saying "Huuuuuuuuuuh?" in every other line, extremely annoying.. and his bitching voice adds to it. Stick to producing, Kanye!
 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 06:25:53 PM »
this track coulda been executed better than this. they coulda got a better producer. the beat is so repetitive. lex luger is gonna be another fly by night if he keeps this up.
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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 08:13:10 PM »
Lmao @ the opera singing.  That shit was corny and contrived / forced.  Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...

However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising.  His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time.  This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years.  And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag.  Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight.

Kanye was boring on this, and I disagree, he didn't go ham on this.  More like BAM - Boring as a motherfucker.

And finally, I would like to point out a couple things off of my 1 minute analysis of the cover for the single:



In the bottom corners and the top middle are upside down stars, and inset a bit from the bottom corner stars are 2 more upside down stars wthin circles.  Those are all pentagrams:





Just so you know what your drenching your subconscious in.

Also, after looking more, there are several more inverted stars aka pentagrams.  I'm sure there's lots more symbolism, I'll see if I find anything else.  Peace.

 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 08:18:28 PM »
^The wings on the bottom star.

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