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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 03:05:19 PM »
So, I'm listening to the beat and the first verse with Kanye comes on.  It's aight.  I'm not really impressed but then the chorus comes in and the beat explodes.  That's when I'm feeling it.  Ye's verse is over and Jay does what he does best which is consistently fresh hip-hop.  Honestly,  Jay should've stole the track for himself cause he wrecks it.

The production is fresh due to it's build into orchestration.  


Basically, the continuation of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.  It's ill.  Hip-Hop!

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ye adopted a southern flow.  it's not great but it wasn't as bad as y'all is making out to be. plus, the song is about going ham.  What's hard to understand about that? 

Y'all ain't pick up the shots Jay throwing out?  Let me break it down:

Reality check on Baby & Lil Wayne,
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Really you got baby money
Keep it real with niggas, niggas ain't got my lady money

A possible fuck you @ 50,
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Bow down, brother pay homage
Don't spill hate all on my garments
Commes des Garçon, fuck your fresh
Head shots, nigga, fuck your vests
Fuck the pig, no pork on my fork

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I used to be an Adam with two Eves and shawtys automatically do me
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 03:53:37 PM »
i dont wonna hear kanye rapin

Neither do I, and I don't want to hear him rapping any more either..

When Jay used that "Huh"-gimmick, it sounded semi-retarded, so he apparently stopped using it.

Now Kanye is saying "Huuuuuuuuuuh?" in every other line, extremely annoying.. and his bitching voice adds to it. Stick to producing, Kanye!
 

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Re: Kanye West & Jay-Z - H.A.M.
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2011, 07:25:53 PM »
this track coulda been executed better than this. they coulda got a better producer. the beat is so repetitive. lex luger is gonna be another fly by night if he keeps this up.
"Summa y'all #mediocres more worried bout my goings on than u is about ya own.... But that ain't none of my business so.....I'll just #SipTeaForKermit #ifitaintaboutdamoney #2sugarspleaseFollow," - T.I.
 

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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2011, 09:13:10 PM »
Lmao @ the opera singing.  That shit was corny and contrived / forced.  Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...

However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising.  His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time.  This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years.  And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag.  Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight.

Kanye was boring on this, and I disagree, he didn't go ham on this.  More like BAM - Boring as a motherfucker.

And finally, I would like to point out a couple things off of my 1 minute analysis of the cover for the single:



In the bottom corners and the top middle are upside down stars, and inset a bit from the bottom corner stars are 2 more upside down stars wthin circles.  Those are all pentagrams:





Just so you know what your drenching your subconscious in.

Also, after looking more, there are several more inverted stars aka pentagrams.  I'm sure there's lots more symbolism, I'll see if I find anything else.  Peace.

 

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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2011, 09:18:28 PM »
^The wings on the bottom star.

THROW IT UP!



 

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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2011, 09:40:24 PM »
^^Yeah and those two branches next to the wings are oak leaves / olive leaves.  I'd suggest yall look up the history of that symbol. 





 

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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2011, 10:24:26 PM »
I love this stuff lmao.

EDIT: Does the opera singing at the three minute mark have any significance?
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« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2011, 06:34:08 AM »
honestly, all the cover art significance you point out, i dont give rappers that much credit for being that witty;

the beatles and the whole paul is dead shit, people still talked about that, this, motherfuckers will forget about in a week.
 

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« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2011, 08:59:43 AM »
I love this stuff lmao.

EDIT: Does the opera singing at the three minute mark have any significance?

Absolutely. It signifies that the producer sucks.
 

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« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2011, 09:10:07 AM »
Production is messed up. Somebody forgot to mix it at some point. You can't really hear the sounds going on when the ''opera'' part kicks in. And I got good headphones
 

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« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2011, 09:11:42 AM »
Jrome you are reaching.

Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?
 

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« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2011, 09:27:29 AM »
honestly, all the cover art significance you point out, i dont give rappers that much credit for being that witty;

the beatles and the whole paul is dead shit, people still talked about that, this, motherfuckers will forget about in a week.

Here's the deal. Entertainers whether it be actors, musicians, etc are merely puppets. They aren't the ones choosing what they wear, what they say, what their videos look like, album covers, etc.  Many of them are not even remotely aware of the symbolism they use. But I promise you, Jiggaman knows all about it, and so does Kanye. But they are higher up in the entertainment world, especially Jay. I mean he hangs out with Bill Gates who happily and openly admits that he supports eugenics. The mainstream entertainment industry is ran by just a few people at the top who are absolutely pushing an agenda.

As for the Beatles...who I am a huge fan of, were a total product of the Tavistock Institute. Research that. So were the Rolling Stones and endless other acts old and new. I'm on my phone or I'd post pics, which I'm sure you have seen...flashing occult hand signs, draped in dead babies. Aleister Crowley is on the Sgt Peppers album. Research him and what John Lennon said about him. John was breaking away from them and openly fighting them and thats why the CIA had him whacked.  I could post much more but I don't have time. Peace.

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« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2011, 09:49:02 AM »
Jrome you are reaching.

Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?

If u see how many hundreds (more like thousands over the years) of times these same symbols are plastered everywhere, over and over again, you would have to be naive to think that it is a coincidence or has no meaning.

99% of all entertainers are severe ego maniacs who would do ANYTHING for fame. Others may not wan to go along with it, but are threatened if they don't. The same people that founded Hollywood also own radio an television. And I mean, they completely control those industries. All of the biggest names would never get to where they are unless they are allowed to.

And yes, these homos would be down for it...they are employed by degenerates who are homosexual themselves. Entertainers are often raped / sodomized and black mailed with that info so they continue going along with the agenda. You don't get Jigga status, Michael Jackson status, Puffy, Birdman, russell Simmons status without getting pounded in the ass.

The entertainment industry is very disturbing, much worse than they advertise.
 

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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2011, 10:02:22 AM »
jrome, as long as you keep this shit to yourself.  if you feel the need to start change please see a doctor
Cool breeze; I'm hopping out of new Beams
My outfit ran me a few G's but none of that will matter if you leave
I used to be an Adam with two Eves and shawtys automatically do me
Excuse me, all that happened before you doesn't matter
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Recline, in the mean time, twenty three shine, diamond bling blind as I rewind
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« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2011, 10:12:06 AM »
Lmao @ the opera singing.  That shit was corny and contrived / forced.  Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...

However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising.  His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time.  This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years.  And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag.  Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight


I suggest you check Shiny Suit Theory with Jay Electronica.To me, that's Jay's best verse since Black Album, not that I've followed everything he drops but I'm sure he hasn't dropped something that stellar in a minute
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« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2011, 10:28:16 AM »
Jrome you are reaching.

Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?

If u see how many hundreds (more like thousands over the years) of times these same symbols are plastered everywhere, over and over again, you would have to be naive to think that it is a coincidence or has no meaning.

99% of all entertainers are severe ego maniacs who would do ANYTHING for fame. Others may not wan to go along with it, but are threatened if they don't. The same people that founded Hollywood also own radio an television. And I mean, they completely control those industries. All of the biggest names would never get to where they are unless they are allowed to.

And yes, these homos would be down for it...they are employed by degenerates who are homosexual themselves. Entertainers are often raped / sodomized and black mailed with that info so they continue going along with the agenda. You don't get Jigga status, Michael Jackson status, Puffy, Birdman, russell Simmons status without getting pounded in the ass.

The entertainment industry is very disturbing, much worse than they advertise.
Exactly, they do anything for fame.
The alleged illuminati are people who are completely invisible, why the fuck would they associate themselves with known attention whores?

The star is everywhere because it's a very basic shape.
Little children often draw stars, are they affiliated with the illuminati?
 

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« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2011, 08:48:25 PM »
After bumping this for a little bit, me thinks it should've been a j. cole and jay-z track instead of a knaye one
Cool breeze; I'm hopping out of new Beams
My outfit ran me a few G's but none of that will matter if you leave
I used to be an Adam with two Eves and shawtys automatically do me
Excuse me, all that happened before you doesn't matter
I'm a vision of the future climbing the success ladder
Recline, in the mean time, twenty three shine, diamond bling blind as I rewind
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« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2011, 03:48:03 AM »
Jrome you are reaching.

Do you really think these homo's would get in the illuminati anyway?

If u see how many hundreds (more like thousands over the years) of times these same symbols are plastered everywhere, over and over again, you would have to be naive to think that it is a coincidence or has no meaning.

99% of all entertainers are severe ego maniacs who would do ANYTHING for fame. Others may not wan to go along with it, but are threatened if they don't. The same people that founded Hollywood also own radio an television. And I mean, they completely control those industries. All of the biggest names would never get to where they are unless they are allowed to.

And yes, these homos would be down for it...they are employed by degenerates who are homosexual themselves. Entertainers are often raped / sodomized and black mailed with that info so they continue going along with the agenda. You don't get Jigga status, Michael Jackson status, Puffy, Birdman, russell Simmons status without getting pounded in the ass.

The entertainment industry is very disturbing, much worse than they advertise.
Exactly, they do anything for fame.
The alleged illuminati are people who are completely invisible, why the fuck would they associate themselves with known attention whores?

The star is everywhere because it's a very basic shape.
Little children often draw stars, are they affiliated with the illuminati?

Illuminati is kind of a misnomer...think of it more as a company. Further, as I've said, entertainers are merely puppets.  The top of the pyramid isn't talking to Jay Z, they've got prolly 20 levels of people below them that handle this aspect.  They dictate the overall agenda and it is carried out.  Old ass jews like David Rockefeller or Evelyn de Rothschild aren't keeping their ear to the streets for bangin beats lol.  It's all about social engineering.

Stars are one thing, pentagrams are another.

 

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« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2011, 03:51:05 AM »
Lmao @ the opera singing.  That shit was corny and contrived / forced.  Other than that, the beat was nothing special, sounds like a lot of generic mainstream hip hop which is why I don't check for much of it...

However, I will say that Jay actually attacked this beat which is def surprising.  His flow was in rhythm with the song and he was rhyming nicer than he has in a long ass time.  This is honestly the first Jigga verse that I have really felt in literally years.  And some of yall know how I feel about Jiggaman, ie that he's a low life scumbag.  Just want to point that out that i can call a spade a spade, and his verse was tight


I suggest you check Shiny Suit Theory with Jay Electronica.To me, that's Jay's best verse since Black Album, not that I've followed everything he drops but I'm sure he hasn't dropped something that stellar in a minute

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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2011, 09:51:16 PM »
"I'm about to go ham"

What? Fuck off. Dumb shit.
 

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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2011, 10:18:53 PM »
Shit is arrrrrite. I expect something better from Kanye and Jay-Z tho. Something more classic, this shit is aiiiiiiiiite.