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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2004, 11:02:20 AM »
The Christian churches, all of them, go much further than the teachings of Jesus, and I am convinced he would want nothing to do with almost all of them due to their hypocritical nature.


Ofcourse. Just like how Allah wouldn't nothing to do with these so-called muslims. Even in the Qu'ran it says they will meet with Jesus on judgement day.

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2004, 03:25:31 PM »
@SHALLOW....I emailed 1 of my homegurls from around the way about the Saturday/Sunday issue and this is what she had to say.




I'm sure that you would agree, that as Christians,  Jesus is our
example. It is true that he was resurrected on Sunday, but He rested on
the Sabbath from the time of creation when He made "that" day holy.
Even while He was is the grave He showed respect for the Sabbath day by
resting on it. To say that "Jesus didn't pay any attention to the
Sabbath" is inaccurate when He himself kept it holy. It is true that He
believed that it is good to "do well" (good things) on the Sabbath Day
as well as any other. This does not mean that He did "pay any attention
to it." The scripture tells us that "God made the Sabbath for man, not
man for the Sabbath." Jewish leaders of that time made the Sabbath a
burned to people by enforcing specific rules and regulations on how it
should be kept. For example; one could not travel any more than a
certain amount of miles or carry a mat or objects as it would be
considered "working." The Pharisees in their extreme thinking and
inpure motives of power, lost sight of the purpose of the Sabbath. God
created to Sabbath as a day that is set aside to reflect upon Him, his
creation, and family without any outside interruption of the work week.
He is our creator and He made us. He knows what we need and that is why
He set aside this specific day. The reason why many Christians now  go
to church on Sunday is because the Catholic Church has changed the day
of worship from Saturday to Sunday. They boldly admit  to making this
change ( I can give you further information from their own documents.)
Nevertheless, regardless of who's idea it was to change the day of
worship from Saturday to Sunday is irrelevant. The point is that God
asked that we worship him on the Sabbath/Saturday and who are we to
change it? That is not our place! We will each be responsible for the
turth that we know and follow regardless of what man tells us to do we
are follow what God tells us to do. I encourage you to read and study
for yourself!

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2004, 12:08:28 AM »
I didn't mean to say that Jesus didn't pay attention to the Sabbath like it was worthless. He did state that it is wrong to with hold from doing good works on the Sabbath for those in need. I guess the church took it a step further. As far as I know the day of worship was Sunday for Christians before well before the Catholic church came into existence. The Greek Orthodox church predates the Catholic church and they worshiped and worship on Sunday. I'm sure what the the whole Sabbath means personally. Many historians have argued what "day" actually means. The ancient Hebrew word would imply day as in era. Therefore God would have made the world in 7 eras, and on or in the 7th era he rested. Christian Scientists quickly adopted this theory and believe it to be true. Does this mean we are in the 7th era now and he is resting, or are we in the 6th, the day of man? I really don't have an answer. Maybe we are in the day of man and heaven is the Sabbath where we rest with God. Maybe we are in the Sabbath now and God is resting, which may explain the evil. Who knows? What I do know is that Jesus placed the virtues of his teachings far above the rituals and traditions. As long as your heart is in the right place you should have nothing to worry about. That's how I live and I hope it's good enough for the big guy himself. I can't choose a religion like Christianity and claim it to be definite the way the church claims it to be with out going against the faith itself. If I believe that this is the right and only way then I would be calling all the others wrong and inferior and that is wrong. Jesus never asked for a special day of prayer or for an organized church.

I've yet to read any quote of Jesus that fails to stand up today or ever come across as wrong. I've certainly read that in the Torah, and Jesus himself brought that up. Judaism and Islam seem to condone certain aspects of human error, such as violence or judgment. Jesus forgave human error but would never try and make it less wrong than they were. He just wanted you to repent and try not to do it again. I guess that's why I stayed with Christianity when I went on my spiritual journey a few years ago and didn't change religions. This doesn't mean I think I'm right for being Christian and others are wrong are wrong for not being Christian. It just means Christianity suited me so I stuck with it.
 

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2004, 03:10:34 AM »
NO WHERE IN the bible did it say that god went to sleep! it said he rested which means he just stopped creating. don't come in here misinterpreting the bible to put your "Allah" above mine and other people's god.


I never said god went to sleep U fucin moron....READ my questions again, I didn't misinterpret the bible at all....and I never said my god is "allah".


actually that second point was aimed toward "entertainment is dead" or whatever the fuck that jabroni's name is you fuCKing retard....maybe you should read what the fuCK i'm fucking writing about and read the whole fucking mother fuckin' post before you fuckin go out and fuckin call me a fuckin moron....mother fucker.............and and please quit trying to act like your some crip by spelling all your ck's with cc's......


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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2004, 11:48:47 PM »
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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2004, 12:51:01 AM »
lmao....this cat the biggest square, went thru and made all them CK's bold. ahahaha... I dunno what you're trying to prove baker boy....I ain't never claimed to be no crip. I roll wit the MOB bitch, East Bruno Trench Side. Investigate me. But then again, I'll snap my fingers and have my crip homies scrape your shit bitch. You know nothing about me. 

But anyway, that's all irrelevant. Bac to the topic, let's not let a PMSing bitch get in the way of what I'm tryin 2 figure out here, cuzz I'm truely confused about this issue. Man if I asked a question about Islam, Tech, Infinite and erryone would be on it immediately, no questions asked. But y'all lames is juss bullshittin.

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2004, 02:14:50 AM »
zilla, Jesus didnt turn water to wine so he could get drunk easier. It supports the fact that God Works Miracles. Which explains how Jesus walked on water and so on. Getting drunk is basically an addiction and Bible basically tells us not to worship or addict to other things that dont make us better people. I'll finish explaining it someo ther day in person or something
 

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2004, 06:21:33 AM »
It supports the fact that God Works Miracles. Which explains how Jesus walked on water and so on.

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2004, 03:00:38 AM »
lmao....this cat the biggest square, went thru and made all them CK's bold. ahahaha... I dunno what you're trying to prove baker boy....I ain't never claimed to be no crip. I roll wit the MOB bitch, East Bruno Trench Side. Investigate me. But then again, I'll snap my fingers and have my crip homies scrape your shit bitch. You know nothing about me. 

But anyway, that's all irrelevant. Bac to the topic, let's not let a PMSing bitch get in the way of what I'm tryin 2 figure out here, cuzz I'm truely confused about this issue. Man if I asked a question about Islam, Tech, Infinite and erryone would be on it immediately, no questions asked. But y'all lames is juss bullshittin.



lol this fool ...trying to act like the godfather "i'll snap my fingers and have my crip homies scrape your shit bitch" wow lol......right there that tells me what kind  of 'man' you are, i don't know how they do things up there in Gay Fransico but down here when we got a problem we handle that shit one on one. now if you need back up then that's on you, but i'll be straight up with you i ai't afraid of no crip or no crip wanna be lol. Don't call me a lame then come in here and start talking some crip shit " y'all lames be buggin straight bitch style loc, lemme get bacc to the topic cuz these marks be wacc" ......i don't care if your ass is a crip or some crip ass foos let you get them drinks for them (haha spider from goodfellas) don't fuCKing run up on me when i wasn't even talking to your wanna be ass in the first place.


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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2004, 11:33:51 AM »
RUN up on you? on the internet? Spider from Goodfellas? I wouldn't take you on 1 on 1? I'd need back up? lmaoooo....oh mann so much you know, hit me if u ever come here for vacation wit your daddy bitch, we don't need 2 take lil internet shit 2 the streets, don't need no "crips" <<< ure favorite word that yur favorite rappers be using..... ill take you to our boxing gym and show you what a real 1 on 1 is, I got 500 on it !! and don't even try 2 act like you didn't start this 1st on this thread. I'll give you something to be scared of superman.


@AMIR.....so you mean to tell me Jesus did it just to prove he can do miracles? Why didn't he turn water into juice or milk or somethin? Why did the people want wine so much? I'm not saying Jesus did it so erryone could get drunk, but c'mon, wine is 13% alcohol usually, you know some of em had 2 have been drinkin a lil more than the ordinary and partied etc. My question wasn't about gettin drunk, it was about alcohol in general, because some of the OGz at the churches act like it's the biggest sin to even look at an alcohol bottle lmao

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2004, 11:50:47 AM »
you guys forget the last meal, wine was served. Wine is not bad, and alcohol is not bad. Just don't get drunk. Indulging in anything is a sin. Eating too much, drinking too much, being greedy. If you can't handle alcohol without abusing it, don't drink it, but it's not a sin to drink.
 

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2004, 11:52:11 AM »
I got wine at my confirmation (in church), which was when I was 14, together with a hostile.. blood and flesh of Christ, n shit, was what I was told.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2005, 03:13:31 PM »



Ofcourse. Just like how Allah wouldn't nothing to do with these so-called muslims. Even in the Qu'ran it says they will meet with Jesus on judgement day.

No, the Qu'ran doesn't say that. 

Anyone can look it up, they have plenty of Qu'ran search web pages where anyone can type in a key word on Qu'ran search.  You won't find it.  Peace.
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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2005, 10:30:09 PM »
What some of you people dont understand is that the Old Testament is a book written more than 2000 years ago (long time before Jesus was born, actually centuries and centuries before..). It's not important what is written in it, it's important the message. Whatever religion you follow, if its main goal is to love people and to make peace, that's a good one. Then who gives a fuck if it's God or Allah, if you can drink or not, if you can smoke or not. We're talking about "nothing". We didnt see Jesus. We didnt see Maometto. We didnt see Buddah. We just keep the faith in something they told us. But once again if you feel good and if your religion teaches you to be a good man, then there's a point having one.
 

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2005, 12:15:05 AM »
RUN up on you? on the internet? Spider from Goodfellas? I wouldn't take you on 1 on 1? I'd need back up? lmaoooo....oh mann so much you know, hit me if u ever come here for vacation wit your daddy bitch, we don't need 2 take lil internet shit 2 the streets, don't need no "crips" <<< ure favorite word that yur favorite rappers be using..... ill take you to our boxing gym and show you what a real 1 on 1 is, I got 500 on it !! and don't even try 2 act like you didn't start this 1st on this thread. I'll give you something to be scared of superman.


@AMIR.....so you mean to tell me Jesus did it just to prove he can do miracles? Why didn't he turn water into juice or milk or somethin? Why did the people want wine so much? I'm not saying Jesus did it so erryone could get drunk, but c'mon, wine is 13% alcohol usually, you know some of em had 2 have been drinkin a lil more than the ordinary and partied etc. My question wasn't about gettin drunk, it was about alcohol in general, because some of the OGz at the churches act like it's the biggest sin to even look at an alcohol bottle lmao


first and foremost don't try to start beef with me on the internet WHEN I WASN"T even talking to your ass in the first place, step down and apologize like a good boy spider. the second of all , the fact that your're jumping to violence with some one on the net tells me another thing about you ....you're insecure, if i'm ever in your general drowzy cold, foggy, gay, expensive, homeless ridden neck of the woods it'll purely be to catch  a raider game ........if i'm ever in the bay i'll let you know,i'll even be there in red and black with my red mustang and my new jordan's on lol, i got a platnum credit card saying you don't really want to do anything, if you're getting this mad over something wasn't even aimed at you, i feel sorry for you. and i could careless about what boxing gym your at, i could care less if you can beat my ass, i ain't no ufc or nothin but one things for sure i get my hits in .......anyways


i don't know for sure why jesus turned water into wine, but from an educated guess i think he did it because wine was more of a luxury back then.....if he turned it into milk, yeah it still woulda been a great miracle, if he turned water into apple juice that would be fucking awesome, but wine......that was be even more incredible.......wine wasn't/isn't created over night, wine wasn't/isn't cheap. wine was the drink of the kings and rich aswell, jesus roamed with a bunch of poor nobodies and preached to them aswell, and what better way to host than to treat your followers like vips and kings. whatever og christians you're talkin to or observing are full of shit or somethin, we drink wine in church EVERY sunday, everyone from kids to the elderly gets a sip at communian


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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2005, 12:17:26 AM »
you guys forget the last meal, wine was served. Wine is not bad, and alcohol is not bad. Just don't get drunk. Indulging in anything is a sin. Eating too much, drinking too much, being greedy. If you can't handle alcohol without abusing it, don't drink it, but it's not a sin to drink.

not really ....the last meal wasn't this food and drinking fest


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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2005, 09:59:39 AM »
okay here we go
every religion has its right points and wrong points,
that is why they are down here on this earth'

rod and mauzip i can tell you one thing though and it s in the bible

if you go to a church and they teach the wrong teaching you can end up in hell along with the congregation and the preacher

now that should make all of you think...........

how do you know that the preacher is actually preaching the right thing unless you test him........

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Re: A few questions about Christianity.
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2005, 12:00:58 AM »
okay here we go
every religion has its right points and wrong points,
that is why they are down here on this earth'

rod and mauzip i can tell you one thing though and it s in the bible

if you go to a church and they teach the wrong teaching you can end up in hell along with the congregation and the preacher

now that should make all of you think...........

how do you know that the preacher is actually preaching the right thing unless you test him........

never be scared to ask questions,rod and Mau scared is not Godly

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