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Is it just me or is the West .....
« on: July 29, 2002, 06:08:39 AM »
..... gradually becoming boring. Compared to the East Coast it is. Theres only a fews artists in the West that still get my attention (Ras Kass, Xzibit, Crooked I ...erm that's it). I'm sick of hearing about pimpin/whores/been gangstas - It wouldn't be so bad if they actually changed there lyrics every now and again but they don't. Lyric wise there years behind the rest. Its a good job they've still got tight beats.
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2002, 06:24:12 AM »
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..... gradually becoming boring. Compared to the East Coast it is. Theres only a fews artists in the West that still get my attention (Ras Kass, Xzibit, Crooked I ...erm that's it). I'm sick of hearing about pimpin/whores/been gangstas - It wouldn't be so bad if they actually changed there lyrics every now and again but they don't. Lyric wise there years behind the rest. Its a good job they've still got tight beats.


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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2002, 07:35:23 AM »
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..... gradually becoming boring. Compared to the East Coast it is. Theres only a fews artists in the West that still get my attention (Ras Kass, Xzibit, Crooked I ...erm that's it). I'm sick of hearing about pimpin/whores/been gangstas - It wouldn't be so bad if they actually changed there lyrics every now and again but they don't. Lyric wise there years behind the rest. Its a good job they've still got tight beats.


I agree 100%.  the whole "I'm a gangbanger, I smoke weed, fuck bitches, pimp hoes, and I love my mama" routine is played out.  The west coast is flat out redundant now.  The Snoop/Dre we are hearing now is the same shit we heard 10 years ago when you get down to it.  It's the same sound.  This is why The Source, XXL, Vibe, etc. don't show love towards the West Coast.  This is why MTV and BET don't play as many west coast videos.  The Snoop/Dre act is stale.  The new west coast artist is an artist who can rock the mic and rock a party.  The west coast needs a facelift in the next year or so, starting with Snoop and Dre retiring so that the new crop of mc's aren't being held back so Snoop and Dre can hog the spotlight.  

Xzibit, Rass Kass, Crooked I, Techniec, Bad Azz, Eastwood, Roscoe, E-White, Soopafly, Spider Loc, Shade Sheist, Knoc-Turn'al, etc. need to force Snoop and Dre into retirement.  They bring a new sound to the west, and hopefully new producers can step up as well, because the sound is starting to get played out as well.  
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2002, 09:23:07 AM »
I like that whole pimpin, gangbanging thing, but maybe cos I only got back "heavily" into rap around the time 2001 was released.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2002, 09:46:53 AM »
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I agree 100%.  the whole "I'm a gangbanger, I smoke weed, fuck bitches, pimp hoes, and I love my mama" routine is played out.  The west coast is flat out redundant now.  The Snoop/Dre we are hearing now is the same shit we heard 10 years ago when you get down to it.  It's the same sound.  This is why The Source, XXL, Vibe, etc. don't show love towards the West Coast.  This is why MTV and BET don't play as many west coast videos.  The Snoop/Dre act is stale.  The new west coast artist is an artist who can rock the mic and rock a party.  The west coast needs a facelift in the next year or so, starting with Snoop and Dre retiring so that the new crop of mc's aren't being held back so Snoop and Dre can hog the spotlight.  

Xzibit, Rass Kass, Crooked I, Techniec, Bad Azz, Eastwood, Roscoe, E-White, Soopafly, Spider Loc, Shade Sheist, Knoc-Turn'al, etc. need to force Snoop and Dre into retirement.  They bring a new sound to the west, and hopefully new producers can step up as well, because the sound is starting to get played out as well.  

thats cool what you think and all but just wait til detox and other dre produced albums are out you might just jump right back up on the bandwagon just like when dre released 2001
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2002, 09:56:10 AM »
Yeah I have noticed that the west gets no love from MTV,BET,The source,XXL etc.The reason for that is simple,all of those magazines and tv stations are east coast jock riders.But as far as im concerned,there is a lot of talent out here on the west.The bottom line is the west coast rap scene is being held back by the people up top who call all the shots.Thats just my opinion,It really makes me sick when I see MTV playing all that south nonsense like cash money millionaires.If they can get airplay and articles in the source and XXL then so should the west.All I got to say is just wait for Detox,the west will rise again big time.Also,if you think that the west will be saved by Crooked I and Shade sheisty and people like that your only kidding yourself,they dont have the commercial appeal to make the west shine.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2002, 10:27:47 AM »
That's why this year, I've bought more albums from the South and East then West.
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2002, 10:30:21 AM »
I love the west coast music and I think I will never get tired of it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2002, 10:33:48 AM »
word im sick of this gangsta shit, i wanna hear music i can relate too, i mean all i hear is gangsta shit, too much
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2002, 10:39:37 AM »
Word i talked to infinite about this...I love Dres production and a good amount of artists.But the sound is gettin tired..Dres production aint but the subject of the raps is.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2002, 10:55:09 AM »
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This is why The Source, XXL, Vibe, etc. don't show love towards the West Coast.  This is why MTV and BET don't play as many west coast videos.    



You got a point, but I dont think the lyrics are the reason that you dont have any West Coast Rappers on TV except for 2pac/snoop/dre/xzibit. i mean you got young eAst coast rappers like Freeway, Beanie Sigel, cam'ron ja rule nelly etc etc, their lyrics arent better but they do commercial music in my eyes with Radio Friendly beatz and thats the reason they get airplay
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2002, 10:57:05 AM »
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I love the west coast music and I think I will never get tired of it.


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Re: Is it just me or is the West .....
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2002, 10:59:05 AM »
i think the beats arent getting old, cuz the west producers are the best producers in the game, but i wanna hear snoop rhymin about the same kinda stuff nas does, but also be able to make that feel good music every now and then along with some party tracks that steer away from that 70's funk style. but at the same time east coast rap is startin to become pussy rap, with ja rule and nelly, and thats what the mainstream wants, so naturally theyre gonna sell. i dont wanna see the west start this whole pussy rap shit, that would be gay. thats what i like about the west, they keep it real with theyre style and dont try to be what theyre not. they just need to boost things lyrically.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2002, 11:07:45 AM »
yeaa... i think its time for a new WC artists to blow up... all the big artists in the eastcoast made their debut in 98... but the artists on the Wc made it in 92......allmost.... :-/
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2002, 02:10:47 PM »
i understand what homie is saying but...the east coast is on the same shit....nas says hes a gangsta or thug...so does jayz...mobb deep has nothing but gangster rhymes...the lox are the same...fabolous, camron, beanie sigel...i mean i can go on forever...the east coast has the same shit...even krs and kool g rap are on that street shit...though those two have been doing it since its inception...rakim has street rhymes...so if u think about it all rap is redundant...not just the west and not just the east...the south is the same...so is midwest...right now being street and gangster is the flavor...just to reiterate....the east coast is just as guilty as the west of constant pimp/slut/gangster rhymes...
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2002, 03:37:16 PM »
I like how everyone  who agrees with this doesn't see that Dre and Snoop still sell loads and loads of albums... just cause the source, xxl, mtv, bet, dont give a shit, doesn't mean the fans dont, we could give a fuck about what they think... and anyone who thinks the east is totally different than the west is stupid... musically yes, but on subject matter, hell no... the top eastcoast rappers right now, today, at this very minute are singing "oh boy" (camron) , "i get high" (styles) , and "gangsta lovin" (eve, alicia)..... and let me tell you all something... for all you "im waiting for crooked-i to blow up" people... he will be rapping about the same damn shit, so don't even go on about subject matter because it's not just the west, but RAP IN GENERAL...  check this

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1. Hot In Herre - Nelly
2. I Need A Girl pt. 2 - P Diddy
3. Down 4 U - Murder Inc
4. Oh Boy - Cam'ron
5. Dilemma - Nelly
6. Still Fly - Big Tymers
7. Nothin - N.O.R.E.
8. Grindin - The Clipse
9. Move Bitch - Ludacrise
10. Gangsta Love - Eve

Not one Westcoast artist on that list or in the top 20, but all those songs include some content like this...

"I'm a gangbanger, I smoke weed, fuck bitches, pimp hoes"

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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2002, 03:57:15 PM »
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I like how everyone  who agrees with this doesn't see that Dre and Snoop still sell loads and loads of albums... just cause the source, xxl, mtv, bet, dont give a shit, doesn't mean the fans dont, we could give a fuck about what they think... and anyone who thinks the east is totally different than the west is stupid... musically yes, but on subject matter, hell no... the top eastcoast rappers right now, today, at this very minute are singing "oh boy" (camron) , "i get high" (styles) , and "gangsta lovin" (eve, alicia)..... and let me tell you all something... for all you "im waiting for crooked-i to blow up" people... he will be rapping about the same damn shit, so don't even go on about subject matter because it's not just the west, but RAP IN GENERAL...  check this

Top 10 Rap Hits
1. Hot In Herre - Nelly
2. I Need A Girl pt. 2 - P Diddy
3. Down 4 U - Murder Inc
4. Oh Boy - Cam'ron
5. Dilemma - Nelly
6. Still Fly - Big Tymers
7. Nothin - N.O.R.E.
8. Grindin - The Clipse
9. Move Bitch - Ludacrise
10. Gangsta Love - Eve

Not one Westcoast artist on that list or in the top 20, but all those songs include some content like this...

"I'm a gangbanger, I smoke weed, fuck bitches, pimp hoes"

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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2002, 04:05:37 PM »
i totally agree....i've started a couple threads before saying the west coast is in a slump or is washed up...anyway...the west is still living of the old death row glory days...the only ones that can sell any units is snoop, dre, xz(because of dre production, 2pac)...other than that...no one has any hits or sells hardly any records....its really sad cause there are a lot of great upcoming west coast talent...roscoe, crooked i, knoc, ...and every one would rather buy another average snoop dogg cd...who is way past his prime!
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2002, 05:37:37 PM »
Im not talkin bout Just comercial shit..The lyricism type of hip hop is much more creative with the lyrics and flow
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2002, 06:31:19 PM »
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You got a point, but I dont think the lyrics are the reason that you dont have any West Coast Rappers on TV except for 2pac/snoop/dre/xzibit. i mean you got young eAst coast rappers like Freeway, Beanie Sigel, cam'ron ja rule nelly etc etc, their lyrics arent better but they do commercial music in my eyes with Radio Friendly beatz and thats the reason they get airplay



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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2002, 06:38:22 PM »
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I love the west coast music and I think I will never get tired of it.


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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2002, 10:35:36 PM »
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I love the west coast music and I think I will never get tired of it.

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I agree 100%.  the whole "I'm a gangbanger, I smoke weed, fuck bitches, pimp hoes, and I love my mama" routine is played out.  The west coast is flat out redundant now.  The Snoop/Dre we are hearing now is the same shit we heard 10 years ago when you get down to it.  It's the same sound.  This is why The Source, XXL, Vibe, etc. don't show love towards the West Coast.  This is why MTV and BET don't play as many west coast videos.  The Snoop/Dre act is stale.  The new west coast artist is an artist who can rock the mic and rock a party.  The west coast needs a facelift in the next year or so, starting with Snoop and Dre retiring so that the new crop of mc's aren't being held back so Snoop and Dre can hog the spotlight.  

Xzibit, Rass Kass, Crooked I, Techniec, Bad Azz, Eastwood, Roscoe, E-White, Soopafly, Spider Loc, Shade Sheist, Knoc-Turn'al, etc. need to force Snoop and Dre into retirement.  They bring a new sound to the west, and hopefully new producers can step up as well, because the sound is starting to get played out as well.  

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2002, 11:03:04 PM »
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i understand what homie is saying but...the east coast is on the same shit....nas says hes a gangsta or thug...so does jayz...mobb deep has nothing but gangster rhymes...the lox are the same...fabolous, camron, beanie sigel...i mean i can go on forever...the east coast has the same shit...even krs and kool g rap are on that street shit...though those two have been doing it since its inception...rakim has street rhymes...so if u think about it all rap is redundant...not just the west and not just the east...the south is the same...so is midwest...right now being street and gangster is the flavor...just to reiterate....the east coast is just as guilty as the west of constant pimp/slut/gangster rhymes...


word !!!!!
those eastcoast fakes just tryin to talk bout shit they've never been thru !!!
they're tryin to talk the same shit like the big homies from the west !!!
plus they got radio friendly beats and shit
and everybody knows they ain't gangsta...bling bling bling

i can'T get tired of the westcoast dope fly pimp music !!!
and i never will !!!

i can't understand how some of you can say shit like that !!!
shit ain't get boring !!!

when i hear all that fucked up east coast shit in TV and radio
ima say to myself : fuck that shit...
ima go wit da westcoast !!!

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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2002, 11:06:55 PM »
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this time y'all sayn that dres productions sound the same all the time !!!
when I told y'all that shit last time
almost everybody was tryin to kick me outta here !!!

hmmmm
strange thing

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so i guess, some homies around here thinkin same way like me...

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