Author Topic: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY  (Read 362 times)

J @ M @ L

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1630
  • Karma: -115
An Israeli army officer who fired the entire magazine of his automatic rifle into a 13-year-old Palestinian girl and then said he would have done the same even if she had been three years old was acquitted on all charges by a military court yesterday.
The soldier, who has only been identified as "Captain R", was charged with relatively minor offences for the killing of Iman al-Hams who was shot 17 times as she ventured near an Israeli army post near Rafah refugee camp in Gaza a year ago.

The manner of Iman's killing, and the revelation of a tape recording in which the captain is warned that she was just a child who was "scared to death", made the shooting one of the most controversial since the Palestinian intifada erupted five years ago even though hundreds of other children have also died.

After the verdict, Iman's father, Samir al-Hams, said the army never intended to hold the soldier accountable.

"They did not charge him with Iman's murder, only with small offences, and now they say he is innocent of those even though he shot my daughter so many times," he said. "This was the cold-blooded murder of a girl. The soldier murdered her once and the court has murdered her again. What is the message? They are telling their soldiers to kill Palestinian children."

The military court cleared the soldier of illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and perverting the course of justice by asking soldiers under his command to alter their accounts of the incident.

Capt R's lawyers argued that the "confirmation of the kill" after a suspect is shot was a standard Israeli military practice to eliminate terrorist threats.

Following the verdict, Capt R burst into tears, turned to the public benches and said: "I told you I was innocent."

The army's official account said that Iman was shot for crossing into a security zone carrying her schoolbag which soldiers feared might contain a bomb. It is still not known why the girl ventured into the area but witnesses described her as at least 100 yards from the military post which was in any case well protected.

A recording of radio exchanges between Capt R and his troops obtained by Israeli television revealed that from the beginning soldiers identified Iman as a child.

In the recording, a soldier in a watchtower radioed a colleague in the army post's operations room and describes Iman as "a little girl" who was "scared to death". After soldiers first opened fire, she dropped her schoolbag which was then hit by several bullets establishing that it did not contain explosive. At that point she was no longer carrying the bag and, the tape revealed, was heading away from the army post when she was shot.

Although the military speculated that Iman might have been trying to "lure" the soldiers out of their base so they could be attacked by accomplices, Capt R made the decision to lead some of his troops into the open. Shortly afterwards he can be heard on the recording saying that he has shot the girl and, believing her dead, then "confirmed the kill".

"I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over," he said.

Palestinian witnesses said they saw the captain shoot Iman twice in the head, walk away, turn back and fire a stream of bullets into her body.

On the tape, Capt R then "clarifies" to the soldiers under his command why he killed Iman: "This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the [security] zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed."


At no point did the Israeli troops come under attack.

The prosecution case was damaged when a soldier who initially said he had seen Capt R point his weapon at the girl's body and open fire later told the court he had fabricated the story.

Capt R claimed that he had not fired the shots at the girl but near her. However, Dr Mohammed al-Hams, who inspected the child's body at Rafah hospital, counted numerous wounds. "She has at least 17 bullets in several parts of the body, all along the chest, hands, arms, legs," he told the Guardian shortly afterwards. "The bullets were large and shot from a close distance. The most serious injuries were to her head. She had three bullets in the head. One bullet was shot from the right side of the face beside the ear. It had a big impact on the whole face."

The army's initial investigation concluded that the captain had "not acted unethically". But after some of the soldiers under his command went to the Israeli press to give a different version, the military police launched a separate investigation after which he was charged.

Capt R claimed that the soldiers under his command were out to get him because they are Jewish and he is Druze.

The transcript

The following is a recording of a three-way conversation that took place between a soldier in a watchtower, an army operations room and Capt R, who shot the girl

From the watchtower "It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward." "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?" "A girl about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death." "I think that one of the positions took her out." "I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over."

From the operations room "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?"

Watchtower "A girl about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death."

A few minutes later, Iman is shot from one of the army posts

Watchtower "I think that one of the positions took her out."

Captain R "I and another soldier ... are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill ... Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over."

Capt R then "clarifies" why he killed Iman

"This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1643573,00.html


Check the quote in my sig, and realize why I TO DA GEEZY is a tool.



« Last Edit: November 17, 2005, 01:23:09 AM by JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel »
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.

LOL @ this fudgepacker
 

Sikotic™

  • Moderator
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28706
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Karma: 3137
  • PussyCunt
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2005, 01:40:40 AM »
17 bullets is just a liiiiiiiiittle much. That's just sadistic. SOmeone peel his cap.
 

J Bananas

  • Guest
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2005, 02:44:13 AM »
why do muslims hate humanity!?!?!?
 

Don Rizzle

  • Capo Di Tutti Capi
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4485
  • Karma: -4
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 02:53:36 AM »
israel never holds their soldiers accountable for their atrocities, which only points to one reason they support the killings of innocent defenceless people

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

7even

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11289
  • Karma: -679
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2005, 07:44:57 AM »
The whole justice and human rights fuck in israel is a plain farce. Who the fuck is buying that shit.
Cause I don't care where I belong no more
What we share or not I will ignore
And I won't waste my time fitting in
Cause I don't think contrast is a sin
No, it's not a sin
 

King Tech Quadafi

  • His Royal Highness
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7323
  • Karma: -221
  • i think you betta recognize...
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2005, 11:22:32 AM »
why do muslims hate humanity!?!?!?

good God man. Its one thing to be sarcastic and sly within the context of a stated position, its another thing to have your whole steez be making stupid comments.

get some clarity in ya life
"One day Alice came to a fork in the road and saw a Cheshire cat in a tree. "Which road do I take?" she asked. "Where do you want to go?" was his response. "I don't know," Alice answered. "Then," said the cat, "it doesn't matter."

- Lewis Carroll
 

Kassem

  • Muthafuckin' Double OG
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 703
  • Karma: -59
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2005, 11:41:31 AM »
why do muslims hate humanity!?!?!?

good God man. Its one thing to be sarcastic and sly within the context of a stated position, its another thing to have your whole steez be making stupid comments.

get some clarity in ya life
United Arab States
 

J Bananas

  • Guest
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2005, 01:22:12 PM »
simply what i meant by that is, natives of that region are bloodthirsty babykillers. Making a stretch of property off limits and punishable by death when all it contains is probably sand and scorpions is disgusting and embarassing to humanity, they need clarity.
 

ZILLA THA GOODFELLA

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6936
  • Karma: -97
  • www.servnu151.com + www.turfdout.com
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2005, 03:26:47 PM »
You damm fruit bag, It's an Israeli captain = Not Muslim.


REGGAE MEETS THE WEST BAY MIXTAPE IN STORES NOW !!

TRENCH TOWN HUSTLAZ - YOUNG N HUNGRY
COMING IN 2008.
FEATURING: SAN QUINN, THE JACKA (MOB FIGAZ), DUBEE, TELLY MAC (THA GAMBLAZ) MR. KEE, 10SION, LIL RIC, PROHOEZAK, ARSEN & MORE.

www.myspace.com/trenchtownhustlaz

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY AREAAAAAAAAAAA.. WEST OF THE WATER! COME SEE US!!
 

Kassem

  • Muthafuckin' Double OG
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 703
  • Karma: -59
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2005, 03:30:29 PM »
LMAOL Read the thread 1st Banana ASS
United Arab States
 

white Boy

  • The totally random poster
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9003
  • Karma: -119
  • http://bigbowlofsoup.tumblr.com/
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2005, 03:32:41 PM »
horrible
 

makaveli11

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1235
  • Karma: 229
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2005, 05:39:15 PM »
why do muslims hate humanity!?!?!?

good God man. Its one thing to be sarcastic and sly within the context of a stated position, its another thing to have your whole steez be making stupid comments.

get some clarity in ya life
Picture Perfection Pursuin Paper with a Passion
 

big mat

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3024
  • Karma: 68
  • it aint my baby, bitch!
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2005, 06:35:03 PM »
i hate jews with every fibres of my body.
 

Sikotic™

  • Moderator
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28706
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Karma: 3137
  • PussyCunt
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2005, 07:05:18 PM »
i hate jews with every fibres of my body.
I bet you love their movies.
 

I TO DA GEEZY

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2630
  • Karma: 185
  • Humankind will thrive on compassion
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2005, 03:27:27 AM »
i hate jews with every fibres of my body.

^^
Then Jamal's goal has been accomplished.


p.s What a curious affect it had on you being that this captain wasn't even Jewish, but Druze.
And it is also interesting why Jamal doesn't post a new thread every time an Israeli kid is murdered, why doesn't he post information concerning the autopsies (that is if the body wasn't ripped to pieces) or why doesn't he delve into such freelance investigations with far reaching conclusions as for the Palestinian Autonomy and its "enforcement of human rights" on the way to "preventing such repercussions in the future"  in cases when Israeli civilians are murdered  by a terrorist, that is despite him claiming to condemn terrorism against Israeli civilians.

« Last Edit: November 24, 2005, 03:51:32 AM by I TO DA GEEZY »
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

Don Rizzle

  • Capo Di Tutti Capi
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4485
  • Karma: -4
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2005, 09:40:31 AM »
whether they are terrorists or justified resistance you like to compare  the israelil army to terrorists all the time so you must think that your governemental organisation acts in terrorist ways so why do you always come out to defend them??

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

I TO DA GEEZY

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2630
  • Karma: 185
  • Humankind will thrive on compassion
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2005, 12:43:30 PM »
whether they are terrorists or justified resistance you like to compare  the israelil army to terrorists all the time so you must think that your governemental organisation acts in terrorist ways so why do you always come out to defend them??

I'm not going into definitions of "terrorism" right now I'm talking about Jamal as well as other propaganda victims such as yourself who often hypocritically claim to condemn terrorism against Israeli civilians only for 'political correctness' without actually taking the time of day to fully acknowlediging the Palestnian leadership's interest Palestinian terrorism promotes and without realizing it is the ONLY obstacle on the way to peace and mutual trust.


p.s:Question: When in God's name did I compare the Israeli Defence Force to a terrorist group? 
« Last Edit: November 24, 2005, 12:47:20 PM by I TO DA GEEZY »
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

Don Rizzle

  • Capo Di Tutti Capi
  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4485
  • Karma: -4
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2005, 01:25:26 PM »
every time the israeli army is brought u talk about what the terrorists do like their on the same level politically

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

J Bananas

  • Guest
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2005, 01:31:19 PM »
just so u guys know, in America, the Israeli's and the Palestinians are viewed on the same level, they're both fucking nuts.
 

I TO DA GEEZY

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2630
  • Karma: 185
  • Humankind will thrive on compassion
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2005, 02:15:51 PM »
every time the israeli army is brought u talk about what the terrorists do like their on the same level politically

 Doesn't mean they're on the same level. To understand the coercion inflicted on Israel's military by the Palestinian leadership, to conduct foiling operations within Palestinian jurisdiction, instead of uprooting Palestinian terrorism within the autonomy on its own, is what you need to acknowledge.
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

J @ M @ L

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1630
  • Karma: -115
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2005, 05:30:27 PM »
I To Da Geezy...

1. Instead of addressing the topic being discussed, you decided to bring some more bullshit and ignore the main point here... an Israeli murderer (just another member of the IDF) killed an innocent young girl in a brutal way, and was acquitted after he admitted that he would have done the same thing to a 3 year old. Fucking sick... but I guess to the Israeli government this is normal and obviously acceptable.

2. If you want me to make a post everytime an Israeli child dies, then I'd have to make 5 times as many posts for every Palestinian child that dies.

3. You admitted yourself that terrorism isn't called terrorism when it's state sponsored. My response to that is that you're right because we can just look at Israel and see that your statement holds true.
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.

LOL @ this fudgepacker
 

I TO DA GEEZY

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2630
  • Karma: 185
  • Humankind will thrive on compassion
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2005, 01:13:35 AM »
i hate jews with every fibres of my body.

^^
Then Jamal's goal has been accomplished.


p.s What a curious affect it had on you being that this captain wasn't even Jewish, but Druze.
And it is also interesting why Jamal doesn't post a new thread every time an Israeli kid is murdered, why doesn't he post information concerning the autopsies (that is if the body wasn't ripped to pieces) or why doesn't he delve into such freelance investigations with far reaching conclusions as for the Palestinian Autonomy and its "enforcement of human rights" on the way to "preventing such repercussions in the future"  in cases when Israeli civilians are murdered  by a terrorist, that is despite him claiming to condemn terrorism against Israeli civilians.

You REFUSE to see whom I have addressed my post to, and on what ground, you didn't seem to mind or respond on your article's "sudden" transformation into a catalyst of anti-semitism(at least for someone who claims to oppose injustice I would expect you to), what proves it was your intension to begin with to foment against Israel by any cost (How would such an article reinforce a stereotype of a racist? well let's see now...nice work fathoming the way Palestinian propaganda works mate )

QUOTE:
I feel like I'm talking to some retarded fruitcake with the -Stein suffix in his last name

POINT has been PROVEN.

p.s Only that if you do post everytime a Palesetinian or an Israeli child are killed you have to state the cause of death and the circumstances (that would of course include death of Palestinian children due Palestinian actions like coercion of hundreds of 8 year old children to take part in militant demonstrations). Since the Palestinian P.R likes to play with death rate statistics so much that when people who die in non-related armed street tussles (say within the about 60% unemployed population of Gaza strip) are all added up and included under the title of "Palestinians who died due to the Zionist occupation in the last..."
« Last Edit: November 25, 2005, 01:30:39 AM by I TO DA GEEZY »
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

J @ M @ L

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1630
  • Karma: -115
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2005, 01:57:31 AM »
Do you have anything to say about the article or Israel's terrorist actions or not? I don't care about your whining and the bullshit tangents you go off on. Palestinian propaganda... yeah, anything that exposes Israel's atrocities is propaganda and anti-Semitism. Go whine to somebody else. If the truth hurts you so bad, don't read it (which you obviously don't.. unless you happen to stumble across it on WCC in 1 of my posts) :)
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.

LOL @ this fudgepacker
 

I TO DA GEEZY

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2630
  • Karma: 185
  • Humankind will thrive on compassion
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2005, 03:07:53 AM »
Do you have anything to say about the article or Israel's terrorist actions or not? I don't care about your whining and the bullshit tangents you go off on. Palestinian propaganda... yeah, anything that exposes Israel's atrocities is propaganda and anti-Semitism. Go whine to somebody else. If the truth hurts you so bad, don't read it (which you obviously don't.. unless you happen to stumble across it on WCC in 1 of my posts) :)

When a discussion is formed it usually leads somewhere, When people respond to a topic it is also customary to reply to peoples' statements. I've expressed my thoughts (in which for some reason you've never been as interested the way you are right now) on one of the responses to your article within this thread that was in no way related to the topic and mainly showcased blatant racial stereotyping to which you did not seem to object (being such an on-topic guy) at all. In the meanwhile, you're reprimanding me for going off topic when I simply pointed out a live example to how easy it would be to go off-topic, the wrong way, when one sided views are being propagated.
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

J @ M @ L

  • Muthafuckin' Don!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1630
  • Karma: -115
Re: Israeli captain who put 17 bullets into Palestinian girl = NOT GUILTY
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2005, 03:37:50 AM »
So do you agree with the actions of the terrorist who shot the little girl, or do you think the terrorist state of Israel was wrong in acquitting this ruthless murderer?  :)
my throat hurts, its hard to swallow, and my body feels like i got a serious ass beating.

LOL @ this fudgepacker