Big Hutch aka Cold 187um
2008) | Interview By: Nima|
Dubcnn had the great opportunity of talking to a legend in the game, Big Hutch
aka Cold187um of Above The Law. The Pomona OG talks to us about his time in
prison, his plans now that he's out, his upcoming project "Fresh Out The
Pen" as well as the new Above The Law album in the works.
Most importantly though, we go in-depth and
controversial about the state of the West Coast, Hutch speaks on Dr. Dre,
G-Funk, the DJ's, people imitating other styles, losing ones identity, and
his solution to the problem on the West.
As ever, you can read this exclusive interview below and we urge you to leave
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Interview was done in February 2008.
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Dubcnn: We're right here with Big Hutch from Above The Law, how you doing
It's all good man, just trying to stay afloat, trying to stay on solid
ground, what's going on?
Dubcnn: You've been away for a minute, the last time we spoke was in 2004.
Do you want to take a minute to speak on what happened?
Yeah, I was indicted by the federal government for drug trafficking, and I
decided to go on, sit down and pay my debt to society, as most would say. So
I mean that's it in a short form and the grand scheme of things. Sometimes
you make a wrong turn, and it doesn't turn out in your favor.
Dubcnn: So you know, everybody wants to know what's the status of Above The
Law right now?
Right now we're recording a new record, writing a bunch of songs, producing,
trying to get that flavor back again. We've probably been recording for
about 3 months now, and we've also been doing shows, we were on the road
with Snoop Dogg, we were on the road with WC, Xzibit. We've been trying to
get our rhythm back, get back exposed. We also have the "Greatest Hits"
album coming out in May that we're preparing for, it's set up around the 20
year anniversary of Ruthless Records, it's coming out on Ruthless Records.
We're also doing a "Greatest Videos" along with that, it's a box set.
Basically we're just coming up with the right flavor, the right chemistry,
we haven't been together for a couple of years due to the federal
government. *laughs* Due to my vacation away we haven't been together, so
we're just getting that swag back man.
Dubcnn: How would you say that your time in prison changed the way that you
carry yourself now or make music?
Personally, the way I make music didn't change. I think it made me
appreciate what I was doing. I was away in a few facilities where we didn't
really have music programs, and what we did have, we wouldn't even consider
it being music programs, so I was kind of in a whole other element, I was
outside of my own element as far as making music. So it made me appreciate
it more, and coming home now I'm like a kid in the candy store again, I'm 19
again! So it's a beautiful thing, that part of it alone gave me that fire
Now my focus is kind of like when I was first making records. I think that's
the most I got out of it, I got more into myself, my spirituality, I'm more
grounded, focused with God, my God sense is really strong now, I feel more
focused on the long term aspect of things rather than the short term
aspects, as far as the industry is concerned, as far as being an
executive/artist/producer. My outlook on it is different because my
spirituality is stronger, I can sense things that normally I would have
looked over. Now little small tedious things don't bother me, but things
that are really loud and apparent, they bother me and have to immediately be
asserted and fixed.
Before, I might have just passed through it. When you're removed from your
situation, and they throw you into another life, what happens to you is that
you start differentiating and dissecting that particular situation, and
thinking "What was the good things, what was the bad things?" Then you weigh
all those things out. When I got back into my career, that's the things that
I noticed was different about me when I came home.
Dubcnn: So now that you're back, what can we expect from you?
You're definitely going to get the raw raw raw, cause right now that's what
the game needs. Right now everything is so commercialized, Hip-Hop is in a
situation where everything is really really loud, nothing is intimate and
focused like on a personal level. There has to be a balance, which is what
I'm trying to bring it. To where it can be entertaining, enlightening,
heartfelt, you can gain something from it as well! That's where my focus is
at musically. When you get the new Above The Law record and you get all
these underground projects that I'm involved with, that's what you're gonna
get: the raw essence of what our Hip-Hop used to be, with a new flip to it.
Right now I'm working on a project called Cold 187um "Fresh Out The Pen",
which will be dropping in the middle of March. I'm featuring a lot of up and
coming artists that are in the underground on the West Coast, and I'm
featuring a section on my album where I host nothing but new artists on it.
It's gonna be an endless amount of volumes that are gonna come out from this
"Fresh Out The Pen" project, the first volume is going to be my album,
featuring these new cats coming out on the West Coast, or anywhere else. I'm
trying to establish a pipeline for a new underground presence out here.
Right now, if you got a record deal then you on, if not then it's nothing,
you're at your house, beating on a drum and writing in the corner! Or you're
on MySpace... But it's no industry.
Me, I came up through Eazy! With Eazy, when he created Ruthless, it enabled
us to take our record to him and say "We think we're dope, what do you
think?" And he thought it was dope, and put us out! You don't have that on
the West Coast anymore, you don't have a pipeline where people can say
"Who's dope? Who's wack? Who's alright?" Everything is "Oh such and such
signed to Bad Boy, or Cash Money, or whatever." Then you start knowing about
them, versus them already having a presence, emerging up out of the West, so
that when people come out here and ask "Who's the Top 10 rappers coming out
that's hot on the streets?" You don't have that anymore! So I'm creating
that essence through the Cold 187um "Fresh Out The Pen" mix CD's.
Dubcnn: Is G-Funk still a factor in 2008?
I think so! I mean, the reason why is, it's just gangsta shit and funk! So
of course. As long as you're doing it and you're vibing like that, I think
so, because music is timeless! Like for instance, people ask "Is this
relevant, is that relevant?" If the guys that created it and innovated it
are still doing it, then of course! That's like saying "Is Rolls Royce
relevant?" It just has to have that twist on it. I don't only do G-Funk, I
do a lot of other funky shit! But, the whole thing about it is that, people
wanna know where I'm at with it at this stage of my career, and they might
want to hear that. So for me to predict what you might like is wrong,
because still like what you liked before, as a consumer. You got to always
feed them the flavors and then sprinkle new flavors also.
Dubcnn: Would you consider switching up your style to appeal to what's hot
I want everybody to understand one thing. When I first started off making
records, I didn't really make records to appeal to what people were doing at
the time. I came up in an industry where there was no industry, so me I
don't really know how to do that. All I know is, my music comes from God and
I translate it to you guys, I don't know how to jump on a fad and say "Now
I'm gonna be popular because I'm on a fad!" I don't know how to do that when
I go to the studio, all I know is what my heart tells me to do. What God
translates for me to write, that's really all I know. The spirit moves me, I
don't listen to the radio all day and say "I'm gonna make a song like that
but I'm gonna put my twist on it." I don't know how to do that. I couldn't
even tell you what I would make by doing it.
Now, can I make a record that's a club record that reflects Above The Law?
Yeah! Can I make a record that can be catchy like Ay Bay Bay but it's done
by Above The Law? Yeah! But I can't make a record LIKE that. You feel me? I
have to make a record that appeals to you, that's the theory of what I've
already done. If it's a G-Funk stylish record, all I have to do is make it
catchy and trendy like a Ay Bay Bay, but it has to have the essence of
G-Funk. I can't mimic anybody because I'm self-made, my group is self-made,
we came with our own style. If you listen to "Livin' Like Hustlers" and you
listen to "Straight Outta Compton", it doesn't sound the same, you feel me?
We don't know how to do that. N.W.A. were our G's, so if we weren't
imitating them, why would we imitate somebody now? Because today's music is
yesterday's music, you got cats doing throwback tracks all day long, and
saying "Hey that's the new style!" "No, it was the style in '88!" I'm just
keeping it real. So would me being myself be keeping up? Probably. So let's
just keep it 100 homie!
Dubcnn: What equipment do you use right now and how has it changed over the
Right now I use the Motif 8, I still use the MPC3000, the Proteus, Planet
Phatt, and we use
Pro Tools of course for everything now. I don't think the gear changes that
much, it's more your theory that changes. The only thing that's changed is
the way I record. We don't record on A-Dat anymore but as far as the regular
gear that we use, same board, cause all of them have the same thing. I still
use vintage stuff, I use moogs and stuff like that through soundfiles and
different stuff like that, but I primarily like to touch the boards, I don't
know to do this computer shit that people do. I like to have my hands on the
boards, you know? I don't get into gear, cause I don't think gear makes the
music, I think you make the music.
As far as writing, I write everything from a piano now, melodies come, they
come off a piano, and then I translate them. Like let's say for instance I
want to go to this sound module, I use the Neko (Open Lab), the same kind of gear that Timbaland used on Justin Timberlake, so as far as gear I've touched the
8000, I've probably touched every new piece of equipment in the past 7
months, but honestly it does the same thing, it just translates it
differently. Vibewise, it's the same, it doesn't change, it's still dark,
it's still funky, it's still raw. And writing is writing, so...
Dubcnn: How deeply would you say you were influences by the musical
background of your family?
Oh, deeply! Everything, how I bring harmonies, melody, dark rhythms, all
that is from my uncle and my dad. All that is from them. Most of the
strings, horns you hear, is because of them, it's because of the way I grew
up. I'm deeply influenced by that. Now that they've passed and everything,
it's really heavy for me because I don't really have that "check this out!
what you think about this?" I don't have the taste testers! *laughs* I don't
have that stamp of approval situation. I don't have that voice anymore, I
know they're up in heaven looking down, but I don't have that. It's funny,
because it's because more a part of my life now, than it was when they were
here, because they were doing their thing too. My dad was doing gospel and
my uncle was still touring and stuff. I had my thing going on too, so we'd
always come together and meet up, but now I don't have that anymore. With
them passing, the flavor is still with me, always, everyday.
Dubcnn: Looking back at your career, which moves do you wish you would have
Man, that's big... That's a good question! I wouldn't have involved myself
in a situation with somebody who ended up having me sent to prison. *laughs*
Nah, but I mean, I don't have any regrets. I was fortunate to be signed to
Eazy-E and Dr. Dre when I was a very young cat in the game. The turning
point of my career was probably when I went to Death Row. I don't regret
doing that, because I ended up learning so much about the game, being an
executive at Death Row, but in it, I wish I could have been more a front
runner for Death Row more than I was. I thought it was a great label, it was
a great situation for me, we had some great talent over there, and leaving
Death Row was one of the harder decisions I had to make. So it was a
situation where we just weren't getting ahead.
And I'll tell you, the only thing I would have done differently, is that I
would've done the independent thing sooner, that's it. The only regret that
I have is that I put my label on pause and went to help run Death Row.
Because when I started West World, I had a good focus on the game, we had
just left Tommy Boy, and if I would have just focused on my label, I think
we would have been a stronger force in the game.
Dubcnn: Are you still in contact with Suge Knight?
I haven't talked to him lately, but I talked to him when I first got home.
Dubcnn: What's the relationship there?
It's cool! It is what it is. Everybody out here in L.A. is doing their own
thing but it ain't no love lost, no beef or nothing. Everybody's trying to
do their thang.
Dubcnn: Do people still ask you the question who really invented G-Funk?
*laughs* Yeah, they do! It's funny, cause people know who invented G-Funk!
The people who ask me, they're telling me "You invented it!" *laughs* They
know the history. But yeah, the thing about it is that I don't even live off
that. It's just that I've done something, I've influenced somebody, and I
wanted my credit for that influence. I innovated a certain sound in this
industry and people don't give me credit for it. People just look over me,
people don't even put me in nothing, even if that person don't put me in
nothing, knowingly that enough people know the true story, for you guys to
print that. It's bad in that sense, not to say that "The person who took it
is wack for taking it" No. Music is influence, when we click together we all
influence each other. That's a compliment.
If I do something good and you utilize it and you come up, that's a
compliment. What's messed up, is when you don't give that person the credit,
when you don't pay homage to that person. It's like learning a skill from
somebody and saying you made it up, and not giving your teacher the proper
credit. That's my problem with it. It's not even about this person doing
something with it and winning from it, it's only about "give me my credit,
give me my just due." I worked hard coming up with a theory and an idea to
be different than everybody else, you know what I mean?
Dubcnn: Do you have a relationship with Dr. Dre?
No, I'm not in contact with Dr. Dre at all. Not that it's a issue or
whatever, but I could give a shit, because nobody give a shit about me. I'ma
keep it real with you. I don't have any contact, any situation, nor do I
desire to even be in contact with somebody like that, who don't have no love
for me, basically. You know what I mean? It's sad, because I'm the type of
guy who would give you my last, I help you, you ask me things, I help you.
Do you think anybody gave a fuck about me when I got out of prison? No! For
real, I'm just gonna keep it real.
This is my first interview, it's gonna be the realest. But no, I don't have
a relationship with him, we don't talk, we don't compare notes, none of
that. And this is a person that was once close to me and basically taught me
everything I know as far as making records. My dad and my uncle taught me
how to write music, but he taught me how to make records, how to put it on
tape, how to EQ, mix and everything. That was my teacher man. It's funny,
cause we don't have a personal relationship, we don't have a working
relationship, we don't have anything.
Dubcnn: What about Kokane, can we expect to hear you with Kokane?
Oh yeah, definitely, he's working with us on our new album. He's actually
working on his own album right now too.
Dubcnn: He just got out of jail too, right?
Uh huh. Yeah he caught a few months, but he's alright, he's on solid ground
and he's doing good. We took a break for about three weeks, and then we're
going back in, back on the new album.
Dubcnn: So let's get back to the present, what you like the future of Above
The Law to be like?
Oh man, we are working on taking Above The Law to the next level. Basically,
we're getting into a lot of the mass media stuff, as far as bringing Above
The Law raw straight to your living room, we got the merchandizing company
that we're working with, we're writing a book, man! Just next level, we're
trying to take it to the next level. We've been underground so long, and
it's funny because a lot of the things we were doing on the underground,
it's commercial now. The thugging and the hustling, getting money on
records, moving big weight on records, doing all this talk about the
struggle and all that, that's all commercialized now, so we're just keep on
doing what we're doing. The new record is definitely going to be
controversial, so be ready for that.
Dubcnn: The other day you were telling me something about how the West Coast
shouldn't trying to imitate what's hot, or something like that?
Yeah, you gotta realize. West Coast, we created our own industry, basically.
Like for instance, the early records that came out from the West Coast, were
straight hood records, that blew up to be household or to be in the
mainstream in other words. What we're saying is, we never had to do that. A
lot of these people who are doing records, they look at it like pop music.
Not that that's a bad thing, don't get me wrong, I don't want nobody to
misunderstand what I'm sayin' cause I'm very assertable with my conversation
here. When you look at pop music, everyone makes dance records, that's how
pop music is.
When you look at Hip-Hop, it's about individuality, it's about your theory.
If you were a kid from the Bronx, you could know what kids in Compton are
doing. If you were a cat from Jersey you could know what these cats are
doing in Pomona. That's what it allowed us to do. If I start rapping like
I'm from Baton Rouge, but I'm from Pomona, how special is it anymore? You
dig? That's where the flaw is. I hear a lot of people saying shit like "Oh
this is wack, I'm tired of this bullshit." It's not that, it's just that
it's lost its sensationalism. It's because people aren't doing things that
reflect them right on their block.
That's what always intrigued people about Hip-Hop, that's what always lured
people to Hip-Hop, more so than anything. I'm not just talking about West
Coast Hip-Hop I'm talking about any kind of Hip-Hop. If you listen to a Too
Short record, it takes you to the Bay, you feel me? If you heard a KRS One
record or any East Coast record, they would put you in their borough, they
would put you in their project! You feel me? That's what we're missing now!
Now it's like "Okay, I'ma leave my projects and I ain't gonna talk about my
projects, Ima act like I'm from Uptown Project and Magnolia Projects now, so
I'ma make the song like this. We're losing that, and we'll lose Hip-Hop if
we don't wake up, if we keep doing that.
People think it's cool but you gotta realize you got a lot of these number
crunchers that's running the industry now. They're not music people.
Understand me very very clearly! We need to get these people out of these
positions, that don't know music! This is the music business, we're not
selling Tide Soap! It's gonna kill our industry! Because they're gonna
influence everybody to do the same thing that the next person is doing to be
successful. So if anybody out there can understand me, I'm not a hater. I
love what everybody is doing, I don't care because it's their expression.
I'm not knocking no guys from the South, I'm not knocking East Coast cats.
They do what they do. But don't expect me to imitate you guys, cause you
guys are doing what you doing. Just respect what I do!
The thing about the West Coast in general is, we're here with open arms! We
accept what cats are doing in the South, we accept what cats are doing on
the East Coast. Why when I come to ya'll market, ya'll shunning me? We're
open arms, the West Coast is open arms. Why I gotta act like you when I get
down there in order for you to play me? You don't have to make a West Coast
mix to get played on L.A. radio! Why I gotta make a South mix to get played
in the South? Why? Somebody come and answer me that question! It's like
eating food! If you Spanish, when I go over to your house I don't wanna eat
fried chicken, I eat that at home! If I come to your house I wanna eat
Mexican food! You feel me? Because no one ever looks at it like that, you
know why? Because everybody is in the cipher. They're not stepping out of
the cipher and looking in like "Why does everybody that's rapping look the
same in there? What's going on? Why aren't there different flavors?" You
Dubcnn: Who are you feeling though, righ now?
Let me see... You know who I really like, who doesn't really get a lot of
shine? Rick Ross. I like Rick Ross, because he seems to be true to where
he's from. I don't see trends in him. I see him really giving me his
environment down there in Miami, you feel me? I like a lot of these other
cats, I like Jeezy, T.I., but to me, a lot of records that they're doing are
what I was talking about, they're cater records. They're raw, but to me I
like stuff where you can feel where they're from in their records. Right now
I bump a lot of Pimp C and all that kind of stuff, any of the UGK stuff. Of
course Scarface's new record. Of course, I'ma bump all the G's, but new cats
I would say Rick Ross, because he's giving me that. On the East Coast, I
liked Jay-Z's last record, new cats I don't really know. I like Nas' last
As far as the West Coast is concerned, I like Glasses Malone, he has a good
record out. That's primarily it. There's not a lot of new stuff. I like the
records Lil Wayne has made, but I'm not so for gone that I can't let him
breathe, it's not like "Oh my goodness". To me, it's like I'ma give you a
fair one, I ain't gonna hate on you or anything, I'll be like "do your work
man, stay focused man, but don't get caught up into that. Because your next
record could be your worst record." I like his records because they become
more than "on the block" records, they become relevant to a lot of different
Dubcnn: It is a lot of new West Coast cats, you just gotta look a little
Oh no don't get me wrong! A lot of these new West Coast cats is gonna be on
my tape, I was just saying cats that's out! It's a lot of cats.
Dubcnn: Who are you looking out for?
Someone who's got a hot record that he's working on right now is Jayo
Felony, he got a hot record. I've worked on the record, I've heard about 80%
of it, it's hot as a muthafucka. I think the kid Bishop Lamont is good, he's
good. Of course, Crooked I, definitely.
Dubcnn: You been hearing those Hip-Hop Weekly's?
Yeah! Yeah, he's... Come on man, he should be that guy, right now. But, you
know how it go! *laughs* You know how it goes out here on this end. Give me
a break. Slim The Mobster, that kid that's on Aftermath. Don't get me wrong,
this is just studio stuff that I'm hearing, I'm hearing some real deal shit
going down. So don't get me wrong, I thought you asked me like "what's on
the cuff right now", you know? But yeah it's a lot of artists on the come
up, my goodness! I just hope they give us a break man. I'ma say it, and they
can look it up: DJ's out here are not giving us a break man. DJ's in L.A.
are not giving us a break. I don't know if ya'll from somewhere else and
just don't give a fuck, but you need to give us a break man, or get broke
off! For real, cause it's gonna be some problems man in the future. These
guys are good, you need to give them a break! Besides my record coming out,
you need to give THEM a break man! You know what I'm saying? WC had a great
record, give him a break! Give him a break.
Dubcnn: That's real.
Go 'head, breathe on it man, whatever you wanna know, talk to me, ask me
something good man! *laughs*
Dubcnn: Shit I mean the conversation when talking about west Cosat rap is
always so negative, you know?
Well, the thing about it is that I'm one of those guys that understand that
we don't have to do nothing else but us. You hear all these guys saying "We
need to do this, we need to do that". But guess what, they ain't even doing
it! You feel me? That's what the problem is. I'm not gonna sit up here and
complain, I'm gonna sit up here and make a change. I'm not gonna complain,
cause complaining ain't no solution to me. With any problem homie that
you're having in life, there's a solution to it. You just gotta think hard,
figure out what the whole get down is, and then go pursue it. I believe in
movement, if I don't get up and do something to make a difference, then it's
my fault that the West Coast is fucked. Cause I'm a G. And I'ma breathe on
it if it's the truth, that's how we do in P-Town.
You got people like Dr. Dre, who invest in different people from other
markets, not taking anything away from these people, they're very talented,
but he won't invest into the West Coast! You leave it to where Above The Law
gotta get a independent deal, DJ Quik gotta get a independent deal, WC gotta
get a independent deal, when we could be in a major setting, and working up
under your umbrella! And we're all self contained, to where we could pave
the way for new artists, it wouldn't even be on him! You feel me? But if we
can't get up in the grand scheme of things, where do we end up at? We still
end up doing what we did in 1989, my man! Still scraping to get in the
industry again! You know?
Cause if Dr. Dre, the "King of it all, the big boss", ain't saying that it's
all to the good, it really ain't to the good nowhere else! Unless we create
that following on the ground level. Where that comes from, is us giving the
streets, shaking hands, kissing babies, passing out our CD's, giving it to
people, and saying "This is what we're trying to attempt to do. Create a
market out here." Without it we won't have anything. So if anybody wanna put
a negative spin on something, tell the truth first! Because that's what's
going to help you get the solution. Don't get into "You need to do this,
because that's played out", because they're doing the same thing we were
doing years ago! So if what we were doing years ago is played out, then
okay, how are we to display what we're trying to do now, if no one wants to
support it? How are you even gonna see if we're doing anything, if no one
wants to support it?
If it's in the hands of Dr. Dre, and you know that Dr. Dre isn't gonna
support it, well then get past that! You feel me? Don't get caught up in the
"Aw he won't help us so we'll give up!" Get past it! It's cool! I said it,
it's cool, he ain't helping us! I ain't mad at him! I hope Detox sells 20
million records! But if he ain't helping me, why do I gotta sit up and
campaign what he does? Why can't I come out and campaign what I do? You feel
me? I should start washing cars at a car wash cause he won't help me put a
record out? Man I was born in the music! I was writing songs before I even
knew Dr. Dre! I probably was making music before he thought he could do
music! So I'm supposed to give up? No! He's a man! So where does my faith
lie, in him? No, my faith lies in God, so I roll with that. I advise
everybody out here to do that, believe in that, and you'll be successful.
Other than that, you're gonna worry yourself and you ain't gonna have
That's the only negative thing I could say on the West Coast. All of these
guys who are in big positions have rolled in the sunset. I said it,
Cold187um Big Hutch from Above The law said it, ya'll muthafuckas done
rolled in the sunset on everybody. Fuck it! It ain't finna make no
difference homie. Me saying, and you thinking it, ain't finna make no
difference. So ya'll go out and support West Coast Hip-Hop, because Dre
ain't finna help West Coast Hip-Hop get on point, you guys are! The people
reading this article is the people who are going to get West Coast Hip-Hop
back on point. Not Dr. Dre. Cause he's not going to help West Coast Hip-Hop.
You guys built it, and you don't even have a voice anymore! Ya'll gotta
imitate like ya'll from somewhere else now, ya'll don't even have your own
essence anymore! The people don't even have a voice on the West Coast
anymore, because they're forced to act like they're from somewhere else now!
So if ya'll waiting for us to get signed by Dr. Dre or Puffy to jump out and
start Bad Boy West, it ain't gonna happen! Just support these guys out here
getting grimy in the streets, and support their stuff, and the West Coast
will come back around! Other than that, it will never happen. Cause those
people are not going to do it.
Dubcnn: That's some real talk.
Yeah homie, it's real. It's real to me.
Dubcnn: I can't wait to hear that Above The Law record, you sound like you
got some shit to say!
I got a whole lot to say. When I hit you with the "Fresh Out The Pen" stuff,
then you're gonna really hear some crazy crazy.
Dubcnn: Who can we expect to hear on there?
On "Fresh Out The Pen" you got Crooked I, I'm working out something with
Bishop Lamont, I got a couple of new cats coming up out of San Diego, this
kid called Syko, he's dope, I got a group coming out of San Diego, Frank
Nitty will be on there. I got an artist coming out on my label his name is
Hazmatic. It's a lot of cats on there. It's also another group coming out
called the Cali Boyz. You know them?
Dubcnn: Yeah they're affiliated with South Central Cartel, I've been in the
studio with them.
Yeah they're nice, they got a song on my mix CD coming out. To me they're
one of the hottest groups coming out. Like I said check for my artist
Hazmatic. But I'm still getting music for it, I'm in the middle of it as we
speak, so for me to talk about it is kind of hard. Oh yeah 40 Glocc is on
there, Chill from CMW. I got a few cats from the Mid-West that's down with
Tech N9ne. Rich The Factor, a few cats from the Mid-West that's die hard
real deal West Coast go getters. I'm bridging the gap with that too, cause
the Mid-West has always been real supportive of West Coast music, St. Louis,
Detroit, KC, Cincinnati, Cleveland and all that. They have a big following
for the West Coast. You'll feel it, I'll get a copy to you. I'm in the
process of getting all the music submitted to me right now.
Dubcnn: Man, I think we covered pretty much everything, is there anything
else you'd like to let everybody know?
We talked about everything, it's all good. I'm home! It's a problem man!
*laughs* I'm home, for real! Let it be known, I'm a problem right now man.
I'm a wreck but I ain't nervous about it, you feel me! *laughs* I'm the real
deal right now. Just look out. I also got a movie coming out this summer, an
independent movie called "Mind, Body & Soul". I got a fashion apparel
company coming out also. Above The Law is also closing a deal right now to
do a tour in Germany in May, so we'll be over there heavy, between May and
June. I think I covered everything now! *laughs*
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