MESSY MARV(February 2012) | Interview By:
Dubcnn connected with Messy Marv aka The Boy Boy Young Mess for -
believe it or not - our first ever interview. After causing a lot of turmoil
and controversy last year due to his feud with Too $hort, Mess returns now
on the musical tip with a throwback album titled "Da Real Frank Lukas Dat
Neva Wore A Mink Coat".
Marv explains to us why he went back to the '93 Mess on this one and why
he's going to stick to it for the future. We also speak about him connecting
more with his fans and involving them in his everyday life (for those who
don't know, Mess has one of the most loyal underground fan bases I've ever
seen). He also talks about being falsely accused by JT The Bigga Figga and
other peopel publicly and sets the record straight. Make sure to check out
all that and much more in this exclusive interview.
Dubcnn: Mess, you're on dubcnn right now to talk about your new project that
Messy Marv: My nigga! I just dropped one, "Da New Frank Lukas Dat
Neva Wore A Mink Coat". It's me to the face, I'm rocking. I got my partner
from the Bronx, Dott Meyers on one track and we're rocking! We're #33 on
iTunes right now. The record hit stores today, it was the St. Valentine's
Massacre day number 2. The video to "You
Gotta Pay Me" hit today already so I'm blessed, I feel good and
I'm rocking up on shit, the only way I know how! What's popping!
Dubcnn: For those who might wonder about the title of the album, why
did you call it "Da Real Frank Lukas Dat Neva Wore A Mink Coat"?
Messy Marv: I titled the album that just based on Frank Lucas and his
situation when he snitched on the police. So coming from the game, I put it
in perspective to where I'm snitching on these police ass niggas. Meaning
that I'm telling the game on these suckas. It was a couple of niggas that
lied and slandered my name real tough, like I was paying lil kids to knock
muthafuckas down and all this shit is documented on AllHipHop.com.
This nigga got on there lying, saying that I was a murderer and implicated
me in robberies and involving me in criminal organizations, all kinds of
shit. This muthafucka was talking me and was lying like fuck, so I put that
nigga out there. I just based my album on these sucka ass niggas out here
lying on real game, these police ass niggas.
So on the Intro of the album I'm calling niggas out. It was another nigga
that got on YouTube and said I got I gave him some money to knock somebody
down. That's conspiracy to commit murder, you feel me? And he was lying like
a muthafucka. So I did this album based on Frank Lucas and his situation
when he got down on the police. That's how I'm getting down on these police
ass niggas and telling the game about it. These lying ass niggas, you know?
Dubcnn: You mentioned that your video "You
Gotta Pay Me" dropped today and when I heard it, it took me way back
because it has that vintage Bay Area sound to it. What made you go for that?
Messy Marv: The fans have been telling me for so long: "Mess, we need that
old Mess, we need that '93 Mess!" So, I brought the old Mess back. That's
Proof Avenue on the beat and he brought it back to the 90's one time. It was
just based on where I am now and where I was in the game for a minute and
how these hoes used to treat a nigga when I didn't have shit. Now that a
nigga doing half ass good and a little bit better than he was doing, I'm
putting them boots ass bitches out there man. And I think I did a wonderful
job doing it too! *laughs* Fuck these hoes!
Dubcnn: Now something that always comes up when people talk about
you is your location. People wonder about where you stay at, in the Bay,
Messy Marv: You know what I told myself this year? I was going to share more
of my personal life with the people and with my fans. So I started a tumblr
(theboyboyyoungmess), I started a instagram (@theboyboyyoungmess) and just
giving the people snapshots of my life, because I'm a real private dude. So
I told myself this year that I was going to do that and I've been doing it.
I'm a little bit everywhere, I have a home in Miami, a home in Atlanta, L.A.
and I'm everywhere. I'm a single parent too, so I'm doing the daddy thing.
Dubcnn: I think it looked like a part of the video was filmed in
Messy Marv: You know what, Vinnie Minton shot the video, a remarkable ass
muthafucka right there. He shot Bailey's SF Giants video and Bailey's 49ers
Anthem video. We shot some of the video in Atlanta and we kind of pieces the
shots together because I was back and forth in airplanes and shit. So some
scenes are here and some scenes are there but everything came together real
good. The shit look crazy, bruh.
Dubcnn: A lot of your records have specific concepts to them, like
the Kokaine Ballads that dropped last year had a different theme than this
Lukas album. What can we expect from you next?
Messy Marv: Well Kokaine Ballads was just that, I came with all ballads and
I was on my coke shit the whole album. This album I'm still on my coke shit,
I'm on my '93 coke shit. What I'm up to next is "Servin' Bars Of Coke" and
it's going to release in a few months. It's going to be 15 volumes and I'm
going to stick with this '93 Mess. Like I said, Proof Av' is bringing that
sound out of me, the boy Young West from Seattle bringing it out of me and
West Coast Stone from Seattle. So I'm sticking with this '93 Mess and "Servin'
Bars Of Coke" is going to be on some coke shit but on a different level,
different topics. But I'ma be coke'ing like a muthafucka though, straight
Dubcnn: I was reading some of the comments on your video and I saw
people discussing your relationship with San Quinn. What's the current
status there? I saw some comments being exchanged on Twitter that made it
seem like you guys were on a positive note?
Messy Marv: You know what? Me and Quinn is me and Quinn. Two grown men that
come from the same area, grew up and grew apart. I've always supported Quinn
and over the years, Quinn always supported me. Grown men have disagreements
and we disagreed. But other than that, I ain't got o problems with Quinn. I
wish him the best and hopefully Quinn wishes Mess the same.
Other than that, our conversation on Twitter was just based on him reaching
out to me and me saying "What you got up bruh?" and him saying what he said
and me telling him to get his muthafuckin' money. Based on that, the fans
went brazy! That should tell you a lot, because me and Quinn are definitely
a staple in the Western edition of the Fillmore, San Francisco area. Like I
said, we grew up and we grew apart but we're still representing from two
sides of the coast.
Dubcnn: We aren't even going to get into everything that was going
on between you and Too Short, from what I'm told that's all in the past now.
But I remember at the time, JT The Bigga Figga responded and dissed you as
well. Have you had a conversation with him since then?
Messy Marv: You know what? The whole interview that JT did on
AllHipHop.com… he slandered my name. He assassinated my character. He
implicated me in a lot of things, lying like fuck though! Talking about me
paying little kids to knock muthafuckas down and saying that I was paying
for protection for the Bloods and that at the end of the interview he says
that he was telling the truth - even though he was lying like fuck.
So this new Frank Lukas album is just based on that and Homewrecker that got
on YouTube and said the same things, lying like a muthafucka though. So nah,
me and JT ain't spoke. JT, he bootlegs niggas man, he just does things out
of spite of having nothing in his pocket. JT has been bootlegging my albums,
the nigga all on IODA using my picture and putting a gang of niggas on the
albums like Game and all these muthafuckas putting that shit up there trying
to cross game with me and whoever else is on them albums, not being
compensated for it.
So nah, I ain't have no conversation with JT, I'm probably not gonna have no
conversation with JT and that's what it is. That's how I feel. I don't fuck
with JT. JT is the police. He's a lying ass muthafucka, he's a thief, he's
the police man.
Dubcnn: Let's stir the interview in a more positive direction. I
remember a conversation I had with Warren G a while back where we were
talking about music and he said "Messy Marv, that's my favorite rapper!" How
does that make you feel? Do you have a relationship with Warren?
Messy Marv: That makes me feel real good, man! That's G-Funk, Rest in Peace
Nate Dogg! Shouts out to the whole D.P.G., Kurupt and all the DPG's. I got
love for Warren man, he reached out to me and one time we were supposed to
get something done but we didn't get it done based on conflicting schedules.
But that makes me feel real good, Dr. Dre's lil bruh saying that? That's big
business! All them dudes, Baby Hump, good peoples. That makes me feel great
mayne, let's do it Warren, get on my line, G-Funk!
Dubcnn: Alright man, I think we covered everything we needed to talk
about, is there anything else you want to let everybody know?
Messy Marv: For the record, I ain't got no beef with Too Short. Kind of like
me and Quinn's situation, two grown men spoke on two issues and disagreed.
Other than that, like I said in my last interview, we ain't got no problems.
Go get that new Frank Lukas album that just dropped, the "Servin' Bars Of
Coke" bout to drop, go get that Kokaine Ballads, that's coke music all the
I just started the new label BGI, the Scalen Music Group, ya'll make sure to
get a bar of that. I got the new clothing line, Scalen clothing, the
Champagne Socialist line about to jump off and about to pop off.. Man I feel
good, I'm in good spirits, I'm healthy and I'm working! Other than that… Big
B's, C's up, shouts out to the pimps and every nigga across American that's
out here trying to get some money. Getcha issue, daddy! Go buy my shit,
because it's motivation mayne, for the eardrum, nigga! You need to get out
here and get it.
Shout out to EMPIRE Distribution, we locked the digital deal and EMPIRE got
me all over the fuckin' world on everybody's iPhone and Androids and shit.
Ya'll get up on EMPIRE Distribution. Shouts out to dubcnn man, the West
Coast's muthafuckin' eyeball! *laughs* Ya'll got your eyes on everything
shaking in this muthafucka man. Ya'll keep up the good work, I appreciate
And for all the fans that wanna know about the E-40 situation and me signing
with Sick Wit It, that was not a rumor. E-40 was protecting the best
interest for his situation and his label. Me, being Mr. Controversy himself
and E-40's been doing his thing for ages, he was protecting his best
interest in that situation. But it wasn't a rumor, we were going to lock it,
but it didn't lock. I still got love for 40 Water, I love the Bay Area, this
shit is in me. This Fillmoe shit is in me, this Frisco shit is in me. Don't
listen to these suckas, cause they hating! Let's get this shit right and get