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coola:
^ ok that page was using the historical facts to help throw down their views... check the net, any credible source shows the same thing...

Shallow:

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--- Quote from: Kassem za ScarArab on April 04, 2006, 07:57:49 AM ---if the read the last thread you would realize that arab slavery was talked about, and it was in no way as bad as white slavery

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haha, yeah are u sure you know what youre talking about?

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are u sure u know what youre talkin about? His statement was accurate. Arab slavery was not as bad. prove that statement wrong dunce, u cant.

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Why? Was it because arabs in general are naturally less cruel?

Eihtball:

--- Quote from: JML - no vowels, disembowel your Colin Powell, throw in the towel on April 04, 2006, 09:29:14 AM ---Thanks for that credible source. Let's look at what this website claims it's all about.

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Go through the articles on that front page... I can find articles on the website that claim the holocaust never happened... does that mean it's true? No.... and no gump, you didn't learn anything...

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Well, look on the bright side...at least they acknowledge not all Muslims are evil or terrorists or whatnot.  Unlike Real Jingoistic American, who calls them all "Islamic animals" and "savages."

coola:
hey Janal, where on that page does it say the holocaust didnt happen ?

nibs:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on April 04, 2006, 11:19:36 AM ---However I can understand the reason for this post I am so sick of being told that whites did this whites did that. It's a fact that white people were also slaves in North Africa, its just taboo to talk about such things because it doesn't fit into the agenda of a "multicultural society" the best way to impose this is to make white people feel terribly guilty for past wrongs which other white people have committed whilst making these people completely oblivious to the fact that north africans also had white people as slaves. The whole thing is sickening that we as a society have to be apologetic for what has gone on in the past.
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look, you're so western with your thinking.  you can nitpick about what arabs may have done or africans may have done, but the bottom line is simple.  when all the dust settled, when all was said and done; western europe and america continue to reap the benefits of the oppression of the past, slavery and imperialism.

the entire geo-economic and political structure was established on those atrocities; and this is why people still care.  people have this attitude that "i'm not racist, i don't own slaves; let's call it even".  it's not even as long as groups of people, and nations in general continue to reap the benefits of imbalances created through these atrocities.

it's like israel.  they steal lands and then complain that the palestinians won't agree to peace.  the palestinians were not happy with the establishment of the jewish state, remain outraged at the occupied territories in jerusalem & the west bank and gaza strips...and refuse to agree to peace on these terms.

it's like those people in zimbabwe being evicted from their homes, if your grandparents stole the land, you do not have legitimate claim to the land.  it doesn't matter how long you've been living there.  a crime was once committed.

from an academic point of view, it's hard to identify a nation of any size that has never commited atrocities at some point in their existence.  however, that is a historical issue; this is an issue of the scale of the effect.

this is the root of the issue.  if arab slavery were comparable or worse than what the west did; that is nothing more than a historical footnote.  noone cares.  noone is feeling the affects of arab slavery.  the world is currently shaped by the affects of slavery, imperialism and oppression today.  and this is why people still care.  you are trying to compare things, when the magnitude of the affect of these things isn't remotely comparable.

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