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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2002, 04:38:56 AM »
Thanks BIGjakeDOGGYdogg, your post made good reading.

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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2002, 04:51:34 AM »
Course he did!
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2002, 06:57:30 AM »
i am sick of hearing this shit...u are listening to too much of suge's bullshit...dre produced...

but however...i found this out when i went to music zone last saturday...i have the the chronic with the bitches aint shit bonus track...but my case don't have the track listed...so the real case for this chronic cd say on the back 'bonus track: bitches aint shit' then where it should originally say executive producer DR. DRE on the back...it says EXECUTIVE PRODUCER suge knight...can anyone explain why he is the producer all of a sudden just cos he added a bonus track??
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2002, 08:18:12 AM »
No offense to you hellrazor, but this rumor is tired. Half these fuckers who blindly claim that Dre didn't produce the Chronic cause Suge, or Daz says so would doubt thier own sexuality if suge or daz said they were fags. Like Jake said, if you are a true Dre fan, and have ANY ear for music, you can hear the similarities from ALL dre music. Even with his futuristic sound on 2001, you can hear similar elements in both.
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2002, 08:51:56 AM »
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Posted by: The Big Bad Ass  Posted on: Today at 14:18:12
if you are a true Dre fan, and have ANY ear for music, you can hear the similarities from ALL dre music. Even with his futuristic sound on 2001, you can hear similar elements in both.  


true, but dre have done bigg changes since the nwa days...
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2002, 08:52:00 AM »
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i am sick of hearing this shit...u are listening to too much of suge's bullshit...dre produced...

but however...i found this out when i went to music zone last saturday...i have the the chronic with the bitches aint shit bonus track...but my case don't have the track listed...so the real case for this chronic cd say on the back 'bonus track: bitches aint shit' then where it should originally say executive producer DR. DRE on the back...it says EXECUTIVE PRODUCER suge knight...can anyone explain why he is the producer all of a sudden just cos he added a bonus track??

tha remastered version has this,  thats why
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2002, 12:35:09 PM »
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heres the production credits to proove my point right


the chronic intro

dr. dre , Collin Wolfe

Dre Day

dr. dre , Collin Wolfe

Let Me Ride
Dr. Dre

Day the niggaz took over

dr. dre

nuthin but a g thang

dr. dre

deeeez nutts

dr. dre , collin wolfe

lil ghetto boy
dr. dre , katisse buckingham

a nigga witta gun

dr. dre

20 sack pyramid

dr. dre ,snoop, d.o.c, warren griffen (even though i don't think there was a beat)

lyrical gangbang

dr. dre

high powered
dr. dre ,collin wolfe

the doctor's office
dr. dre

stranded on deathrow

dr. dre, the glove

the roach

dr. dre


remember collin wolfe is just the hired bass player and basically HAS to play the tabs dre tells him to and gets credit for his contribution, plus he can add little variations plus i think he played the keyboard as well so he got more credit than all the other hired musicians becuase he added variations that dre approved of.


Isn't that the writing credits?  Cause on the left hand side of the sleeve, those are the writers, who wrote the songs.  I'm positive.

Look on the right side of the book, it lists all the credits.  Read them, all Daz did was the drum programing for "Rat-tat-tat."  

Dr. Dre was the genius behind both albums.
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2002, 12:48:21 PM »
naw i got this straight out of my book from school, the ones from the cd have snoop , doc, and rbx all over the writing credits
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2006, 08:15:29 PM »
the chroic is 95% dr. dre, the other 5% is colin wolfe and the glove, who practically just suggested a couple of things to add, collin wolfe being the live bass player had probably the majority of that 5%

95% is actually pretty impressive becuase most producers use an array of help and far more studio musicians and what have you...that's why the chronic is praised so highly for it's production beucase it's like almost all dre. so if anything , everything bad tha suge and daz have said about dre is the opposite...this shit is even in the classes that i'm taking on musical production....plus warren g was asked about this as well, and  if you can trust anyone it's warren g


daz and warren did nothing really, they were just learning how to produce, especially daz, warren was already around for niggaz4life, so he was more knowledgable, and actually from what i've heard gave daz the tabs for rat tat tat, but that's all they really did on the final cut of the chronic....they might have done other trax that didn't make it but everything on the chronic is 95% dre, 3% collin wolfe and like 2% the glove


when they say "the chronic was a group effort" they're talkin about the rapping, daz did more work on the rapping and warren did some trax too vocally , but i guess they just didn't make the cut



doggystyle......that was going to be 100% or like 98% dre at least, but the time press from Deathrow's distributor Time Warner was creeping up so fast that dre had to give daz and warren some blue prints to a couple of songs and had them do them (about 5 or 6 songs) then dre came in and remixed them (basically erased every thing he didn't like about them and redid  the song til it was perfect), and out of those 5 or 6, only 2 or 3 (i forgot the exact tracks, i know ain't no fun is one of them) made the final cut , so Doggystyle is 85% Dr. Dre and like 10% daz and warren and 5% whoever was the hired musicians


which is still VERY applaudable , becuase when you look at quincy jone's work (hailed the greatest producer ever) on thriller you'll see a sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeww of other people, and if you heard the re-released version of off the wall by michael jackson it shows that some of the trax were already half produced already before quincy came in....that's not a bad thing AT ALL that's basically what every producer does, he tightens all the loose ends  with a the record company's band(s)....so dre was putting in more than enough work to get his well deserved props, like his 2 idols George Clinton and Issac Hayes who both take the same approach when producing a song



did't mean to go on and on but that's how it all went down to my knowledge, plus if you have a trained ear you can just tell, dre was working with a whoooooooooooooooole other batch of people on ruthless records, yet niggaz4life sounds the same as the chronic....that's proof enough really
Great fuckin post. Also how the hell do u know about the details on the production of The Chronic and Doggystyle? So IT'S a FACT that warren g/daz did some production on doggystyle? Where did u get this information from? This IS the first time I have EVER heard about anything like this...
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chron
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2006, 08:23:01 PM »
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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chronic??
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2006, 09:14:35 PM »
no way, daz says ge produced alot of songs on those 2 albums, it has to be true!
 

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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chronic??
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2006, 09:34:29 PM »
i am sick of hearing this shit...u are listening to too much of suge's bullshit...dre produced...

but however...i found this out when i went to music zone last saturday...i have the the chronic with the bitches aint shit bonus track...but my case don't have the track listed...so the real case for this chronic cd say on the back 'bonus track: bitches aint shit' then where it should originally say executive producer DR. DRE on the back...it says EXECUTIVE PRODUCER suge knight...can anyone explain why he is the producer all of a sudden just cos he added a bonus track??



On the remastered version Suge is listed as executive producer, it's not the same as producing the music.  The executive producer basically handles the money and makes sure recording costs are taken care of.  Suge just put his name on the back of the album because he's still jealous of Dre.
 

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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chronic??
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2006, 12:23:00 AM »
lol @ me calling shit "tabs" lol

to whoever asked "how do you know it's fact" , back in the day when i wanted to work in the music industry i was taking some music classes and we had this text book and it described all sorts of producers / composers and shit.......it went chronologically, you had a lot about phil spector ,producer for the beatles, john williams, ect. there was a little section about hip hop and dre was like a big chunk of it. i take it as truth until someone who was there in the studio unbiasly says differently


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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chronic??
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2006, 12:28:27 AM »
why up a 4 year old topic?

lol @ me calling shit "tabs" lol

to whoever asked "how do you know it's fact" , back in the day when i wanted to work in the music industry i was taking some music classes and we had this text book and it described all sorts of producers / composers and shit.......it went chronologically, you had a lot about phil spector ,producer for the beatles, john williams, ect. there was a little section about hip hop and dre was like a big chunk of it. i take it as truth until someone who was there in the studio unbiasly says differently

much of what you said was practically confirmed in Have Gun, Will Travell...
 

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Re: Is it true that Dre didnt really produce Chronic??
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2006, 01:24:38 AM »
lol yeah and that too...


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