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1st Rappers
The Watts Prophets
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The Watts Prophets


Origin Watts, California
Years active 1967-[/[/i]b]present
Genre(s) Rap, Hip-hop, Jazz, Spoken word
Members Richard Dedeaux
Father Amde Hamilton (born Anthony Hamilton)
Otis O'Solomon
The Watts Prophets are a group of musicians and poets. Like their contemporaries, The Last Poets, the group combined elements of Jazz music and spoken word performance, making the trio one that is often seen as a forerunner of contemporary Hip hop music. Formed in 1967, the group is comprised of Richard Dedeaux, Father Amde Hamilton (born Anthony Hamilton), and Otis O'Solomon.

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History
Hamilton, O'Solomon, and Dedeaux first met and collaborated at the Watts Writers Workshop, an organization created by Budd Schulberg in the wake of the Watts Riots, as the African American civil rights movement was beginning to take a new cultural turn. Fusing music with Jazz and Funk roots with a rapid-fire, spoken word sound, they created a sound that gave them a considerable local following, but little commercial success. They released two albums, 1969's The Black Voices: On the Streets in Watts and 1971's Rappin' Black in a White World that established a strong tendency toward social commentary and a reputation for militancy. Despite considerable acclaim, the group was unable to secure another record deal; a promising deal with Bob Marley's Tuff Gong label famously fell through. Unable to sustain success, the group has performed only sporadically since the mid-1970s.

1st New York rappers

The Last Poets
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The Last Poets are a group of poets and musicians who arose from the late 1960s African American civil rights movement's black nationalist thread. Their name is taken from a poem by the South African revolutionary poet Keorapetse Kgositsile, who believed he was in the last era of poetry before guns would take over.

The Last Poets evolved out of a 1969 Harlem writers' workshop known as "East Wind." Jalal Mansur Nuriddin, Umar Bin Hassan, and Abiodun Oyewole, along with percussionist Nilaja, are generally considered the primary and core members of the group, as they appeared on the group's 1970 self-titled debut (contracted by noted Jimi Hendrix producer Alan Douglas) and, in various combinations, on subsequent releases. Other early East Wind alum, however -- Felipe Luciano, Gylan Kain, and David Nelson -- recorded separately as "The Original Last Poets," gaining some renown as the soundtrack artists for the 1971 film "Right On!".

Having reached top-10 charts success with their debut album, the Last Poets went on to release the follow-up, This Is Madness, without then-incarcerated Abiodun Oyewole, an album which featured more politically charged poetry and which resulted in the group being listed as part of the counter-intelligence program (founded by then-President Richard Nixon). Hassan left the group following This Is Madness, to be replaced by Sulieman El-Hadi in time for Chastisement (1972). The album introduced a sound the group called "jazzoetry", leaving behind the spare percussion of the previous albums in favor of a blending of jazz and funk instrumentation with poetry.
 

[MontrealCity's Most]

eh i realy dont care where it started.It started in the west then what? WEtscoast is still not coming wiht enough good shit to claim the crown.

[Don Breezio]

doesnt matter where it started...all that matters is where it is...in the toilet

[T-Dogg]

"We all gotta have a place where we come from,
that place where we come from is called home.
Even though we may love this place that's on the map,
it ain't where ya from, it's where ya at."

[coola]

hiphop started in new-york, fool !

[C-BLUE]

spokens words dont mean hip hop u stupid ass bitch.shit started in new york. everybody know.

[Fonky Fresh]

For instance I know that many things come from california,specially LA(fashion & all kind of movements) so im not surprised at all but New York had its importance in the early 80's we can't deny that.

[herpes]

lol @ the west always trying to show up there bigger an better brother.

[Machiavelli]

The westcoast started all that "gangsta" shit and people tring to act hard. It started the pimping/mackin bitches and shit like that. It made hip-hop commerical and people besides blacks to like it...

Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.

[Professor P]

Hip hop is the west coast

[herpes]

The westcoast started all that "gangsta" shit and people tring to act hard. It started the pimping/mackin bitches and shit like that. It made hip-hop commerical and people besides blacks to like it...

Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.

schooly d started gangsta rap and he came from philly.... run-dmc made hip-hop commercial and there from queens. Last time i check both on the east coast

[Professor P]

The westcoast started all that "gangsta" shit and people tring to act hard. It started the pimping/mackin bitches and shit like that. It made hip-hop commerical and people besides blacks to like it...

Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.

schooly d started gangsta rap and he came from philly.... run-dmc made hip-hop commercial and there from queens. Last time i check both on the east coast

Most of the Hip-Hop movements started in the west.

[MontrealCity's Most]

Yeha i think tom iz active is right.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

So the fuck what?!!!!

[Professor P]

So the fuck what?!!!!