MC Ren needs to keep making music...

[The Great Elephant]

wasnt the "Renincarnated" that got "leaked" the album feat John Doe? im sure that wasnt the "Renincarnated" he was working on properly from what i remembered hearing...

I think it is... anyway... that John Doe album sucks.. Big Rocc was also heavily featured.. the beats suck, John Doe isnīt all that... and compared to what Ren is capable of doing this is his weakest effort... it sucks... Only enjoyable song is "In da Ghetto" ...

isn't john doe just an alias for ren?  as for the guy above you, i'm 99% sure reincarnated is the john doe one.  like i said, he released it straight to mp3 around 2002.  besides the obvoius point being the rapping under an alias and the album being called what it is, all the interviews i've read (wikipedia) lead you to believe that album was the one he was working on in the 2000-2002 time and i'm pretty sure he hasn't really done shit since then.  i even think he announced retirement, but i never actually read or heard that for myself.

[daWappla]

Well, it might be an alias.

In the song "America" Ren goes "Ima throw a fucking twist nigga up in the game, John Doe thatīs my mothafuckin name".

Yet there are almost always two other people on the tracks..

My mp3īs are tagged like this: Mc Ren & John Doe - America feat Big Rocc

Big Rocc is featured on almost every song. Now if Ren was rapping under the alias then why is there a third guy on every song.

I could believe that Ren maybe ghostwrote for that John Doe guy... So him saying "John Doe thatīs my mothafuckin name" would make at least a bit sense.. but no clue... havenīt listened to the songs in a while to tell if Ren really ghostwrote..

[Z the laidback Virus]

According to www.thugradio.net, RenIncarnated is an album by MC Ren and the group John Doe. It's possible MC Ren is a member of John Doe, though. As for why Bigg Rocc is featured all over, god knows...I know I don't like the guy, at least as a rapper.

[On The Edge of Insanity]

According to www.thugradio.net, RenIncarnated is an album by MC Ren and the group John Doe. It's possible MC Ren is a member of John Doe, though. As for why Bigg Rocc is featured all over, god knows...I know I don't like the guy, at least as a rapper.

Maybe thats the group, John Doe = MC Ren + Bigg Rocc?

[daWappla]

^

Donīt think so.

I havenīt listened to the the album in a long time but I know that there are 3 guys on the tracks... Ren, Doe, Rocc.

Not sure if there 3 mcīs on every track, but at least on a few, so that shows that John Doe isnīt a group...

[Z the laidback Virus]

^That doesn't show anything at all. For all you know MC Ren and 'the other MC' could be John Doe. I don't know,but neither do you or anyone else here for that matter so you shouldn't be presenting your opinion as fact. Judging from what you say, you aren't even certain how many people are on each track so that makes it a pretty bald statement to say it's just MC Ren, Bigg Rocc and one guy called John Doe.

And don't come up with anything like 'I got every MC Ren-album!' or something like that, because that is beside the point. We all know what MC Ren sounds like.

[Ren]

John Doe is a young homies of Rens he was gonna let him perform at a promo thing in Torrance couple years back at formula records....bigg rocc goes back with ren like eazy did they was bangin and hustlin wit charles ren's older bro...renincarnated never got dropped that shit was just them fuckin around but it was never meant to be heard just some of tha songs ren mailed out from his website

[daWappla]

^That doesn't show anything at all. For all you know MC Ren and 'the other MC' could be John Doe. I don't know,but neither do you or anyone else here for that matter so you shouldn't be presenting your opinion as fact. Judging from what you say, you aren't even certain how many people are on each track so that makes it a pretty bald statement to say it's just MC Ren, Bigg Rocc and one guy called John Doe.

And don't come up with anything like 'I got every MC Ren-album!' or something like that, because that is beside the point. We all know what MC Ren sounds like.

Uhm, maybe you misunderstood me - maybe because I didnīt express myself properly or whatever, anyways.

I was replying to Rastamanīs post where he suggested that the group "John Doe" consists of MC Ren and Big Rocc. Thatīs just 2 men.

Now when I listen to the songs, and at least on a few of them, 3 MCs are appearing then this suggestion is false. Considered that the songs are tagged "Mc Ren & John Doe - Track X feat. Big Rocc"... Thatīs 3 Mcs to me.

I never wanted anyone to think that this is a fact. It was a reply. I never wanted to be right about it. If you want to form your own opinion on it then I gladly up the album... 

Not sure if there 3 mcīs on every track, but at least on a few, so that shows that John Doe isnīt a group...

What I meant was that, judged by the mp3 tags, this shows that the group John Doe (if it was a group at all) didnīt just consist of 2 members... whatever... if so, who is the 3rd guy on a couple of tracks?

[The Great Elephant]

i don't hear any 3rd guy, just bigg rocc and ren.  i'm pretty sure doe is an alias, sort of like rza and bobby digital.  if doe really is a 3rd guy, he's either on track 14 or someone tagged your mp3 wrong.

[daWappla]

My mp3īs dont have numbers, so I go by the names.

Listen to "America".. Thatīs definatly 2 different guys besides Ren.

"Bang With Me" , "In Da Ghetto", "John Doe", "Old Times", "On My Dicc" the same...

Thatīs at least 6 out of 13 tracks (only skipped through the tracks now) ...

So either there is a 3rd guy on almost every 2nd track or Iīm crazy... 

[smp4life]

Ren sounds great over Paris beats to me. Problem with Ren is he (sadly) can't carry an album on his own. However, if he did an album with Paris as the Executive producer I think it could be hot.

[acgrundy]

yeah a Ren album fully produced by Paris would be sick, Infact I think there was talks about it a couple of years ago.

[Tha_Blaq_Sinattra]

Ren is dope. He killed it on that "Hello" joint with Cube and Dre

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