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First off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino
give Manning a Dfence like the Pats have and lets see how many rings Manning would have.
Quote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 03:42:46 PMFirst off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan MarinoHahaha I know title's dont determine individual greatness, my fav athlete ever is Barry Bonds and I know how amazing, legendary, and dominant he is and he doesnt have a title. Problem is Manning and Brady play the same position so the fact that 1 of them has 3 titles and the other has none is HUGE. Yes The Colts defense isnt close to the Pats defense, but did Brady have all the amazing weapons that Peyton has NOPE, so everything equals out and you are left with Manning = 0 titles and Brady = 3 titles, Brady > Manning. Im sorry but Manning is the qb that threw 4 picks in the playoff game against the Pats in the past, Brady never makes those mistakes when the game is on the line, I win later man.
Quote from: Spice Cali'z Finest on October 31, 2006, 03:51:56 PMQuote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 03:42:46 PMFirst off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan MarinoHahaha I know title's dont determine individual greatness, my fav athlete ever is Barry Bonds and I know how amazing, legendary, and dominant he is and he doesnt have a title. Problem is Manning and Brady play the same position so the fact that 1 of them has 3 titles and the other has none is HUGE. Yes The Colts defense isnt close to the Pats defense, but did Brady have all the amazing weapons that Peyton has NOPE, so everything equals out and you are left with Manning = 0 titles and Brady = 3 titles, Brady > Manning. Im sorry but Manning is the qb that threw 4 picks in the playoff game against the Pats in the past, Brady never makes those mistakes when the game is on the line, I win later man. He audibles so damn much, which isnt necesary so of course there are gonna be some false starts and confusion in routes at times.
Quote from: Spice Cali'z Finest on October 31, 2006, 03:51:56 PMQuote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 03:42:46 PMFirst off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan MarinoHahaha I know title's dont determine individual greatness, my fav athlete ever is Barry Bonds and I know how amazing, legendary, and dominant he is and he doesnt have a title. Problem is Manning and Brady play the same position so the fact that 1 of them has 3 titles and the other has none is HUGE. Yes The Colts defense isnt close to the Pats defense, but did Brady have all the amazing weapons that Peyton has NOPE, so everything equals out and you are left with Manning = 0 titles and Brady = 3 titles, Brady > Manning. Im sorry but Manning is the qb that threw 4 picks in the playoff game against the Pats in the past, Brady never makes those mistakes when the game is on the line, I win later man.Um no, go look at their stat pages. I don't see super bowl wins any where on there. Peytons been great before he got all those weapons. I don't know why i'm repeating this but SUPER BOWLS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO INDIVIDUAL COMPARISONS. You CAN NOT use that as a reason for one player being better than another. Give Peyton the Pats D and Brady the Colts D and Peyton has 3 Super Bowls (at the very least). Maybe you don't watch the games, but when I watch Peyton play, I realize that he could make ME a 1,000 yard reciever. He hits these guys in the chest with the ball almost every time, its like the recievers don't even have to put any effort into it.
Quote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 04:08:41 PMQuote from: Spice Cali'z Finest on October 31, 2006, 03:51:56 PMQuote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 03:42:46 PMFirst off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan MarinoHahaha I know title's dont determine individual greatness, my fav athlete ever is Barry Bonds and I know how amazing, legendary, and dominant he is and he doesnt have a title. Problem is Manning and Brady play the same position so the fact that 1 of them has 3 titles and the other has none is HUGE. Yes The Colts defense isnt close to the Pats defense, but did Brady have all the amazing weapons that Peyton has NOPE, so everything equals out and you are left with Manning = 0 titles and Brady = 3 titles, Brady > Manning. Im sorry but Manning is the qb that threw 4 picks in the playoff game against the Pats in the past, Brady never makes those mistakes when the game is on the line, I win later man.Um no, go look at their stat pages. I don't see super bowl wins any where on there. Peytons been great before he got all those weapons. I don't know why i'm repeating this but SUPER BOWLS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO INDIVIDUAL COMPARISONS. You CAN NOT use that as a reason for one player being better than another. Give Peyton the Pats D and Brady the Colts D and Peyton has 3 Super Bowls (at the very least). Maybe you don't watch the games, but when I watch Peyton play, I realize that he could make ME a 1,000 yard reciever. He hits these guys in the chest with the ball almost every time, its like the recievers don't even have to put any effort into it. Yeah Peyton is great, we know that!!!!!! How can you say winning SuperBowls "SUPER BOWLS DON'T MEAN ANYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO INDIVIDUAL COMPARISONS" thats so stupid. It means youre clutch man. he doesnt throw interceptions in big games and cause his team games man. Are you serious? Tom Brady picks apart defenses as well as Peyton too with recievers that have the Talent you keep talking about the Pats Defense but you dont mention there AVERAGE WR's. While Peyton has 2 Pro Bowl Wr's a great 3 WR in Stokely and until this year had a GREAT RB! Did you not watch MNF last night? Brady was incredible? did you not see him in 3 Super Bowls. and Last year the Colts D was MUCH better then the Pats and Manning still choked. bring a stronger argument. and it doesnt matter that Duncan has 3 titles right? because Garnett Avg's more points. Get the fuck outta here dude.
Quote from: MoSavThanLegit on October 31, 2006, 03:57:57 PMQuote from: Spice Cali'z Finest on October 31, 2006, 03:51:56 PMQuote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 03:42:46 PMFirst off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan MarinoHahaha I know title's dont determine individual greatness, my fav athlete ever is Barry Bonds and I know how amazing, legendary, and dominant he is and he doesnt have a title. Problem is Manning and Brady play the same position so the fact that 1 of them has 3 titles and the other has none is HUGE. Yes The Colts defense isnt close to the Pats defense, but did Brady have all the amazing weapons that Peyton has NOPE, so everything equals out and you are left with Manning = 0 titles and Brady = 3 titles, Brady > Manning. Im sorry but Manning is the qb that threw 4 picks in the playoff game against the Pats in the past, Brady never makes those mistakes when the game is on the line, I win later man. He audibles so damn much, which isnt necesary so of course there are gonna be some false starts and confusion in routes at times. Within the design of the colts offense it IS necessary lmao. The whole offense is designed around giving Peyton options because Peyton CAN READ DEFENSES and 9 times out of 10 hes right.And yes, in all the losses Peyton has thrown INTs, but guess what, Brady has thrown INTs in the playoffs before, but he has a defense that he can fall back on, Peyton never has had a D like that, one mistake and it might as well be over right then. Hell, not all INTs can even be attributed to the QB, and if Peyton actually said his O-Line failed on him, its probably fucking true. Peyton isn't god damn T.O., he never talks shit about anyone, much less his own team mates.Peyton has also had some huge playoff games, and in the NFL every playoff game is a huge game.
Bullshit man, Brady doesnt make as many mistakes as Peyton in the playoffs, and he doesnt just rely on the defense to bail him out that is absurd, Brady has been amazingly clutch in those games, you're absurd man
Quote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 04:14:59 PMQuote from: MoSavThanLegit on October 31, 2006, 03:57:57 PMQuote from: Spice Cali'z Finest on October 31, 2006, 03:51:56 PMQuote from: I Am The Anton on October 31, 2006, 03:42:46 PMFirst off, super bowls don't measure how great a player is individually, winning is a TEAM effort and Mannings team has never backed him up in those games. In the last one it made me sick to watch how little support Manning has recieved from his team. But its good to know by your reasoning that Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan MarinoHahaha I know title's dont determine individual greatness, my fav athlete ever is Barry Bonds and I know how amazing, legendary, and dominant he is and he doesnt have a title. Problem is Manning and Brady play the same position so the fact that 1 of them has 3 titles and the other has none is HUGE. Yes The Colts defense isnt close to the Pats defense, but did Brady have all the amazing weapons that Peyton has NOPE, so everything equals out and you are left with Manning = 0 titles and Brady = 3 titles, Brady > Manning. Im sorry but Manning is the qb that threw 4 picks in the playoff game against the Pats in the past, Brady never makes those mistakes when the game is on the line, I win later man. He audibles so damn much, which isnt necesary so of course there are gonna be some false starts and confusion in routes at times. Within the design of the colts offense it IS necessary lmao. The whole offense is designed around giving Peyton options because Peyton CAN READ DEFENSES and 9 times out of 10 hes right.And yes, in all the losses Peyton has thrown INTs, but guess what, Brady has thrown INTs in the playoffs before, but he has a defense that he can fall back on, Peyton never has had a D like that, one mistake and it might as well be over right then. Hell, not all INTs can even be attributed to the QB, and if Peyton actually said his O-Line failed on him, its probably fucking true. Peyton isn't god damn T.O., he never talks shit about anyone, much less his own team mates.Peyton has also had some huge playoff games, and in the NFL every playoff game is a huge game. Dude are check the stats the Colts Defense last year was one of the tops in the league. Brady is a better Leader bottom line. you must be a colts fan...
I give Manning all the credit in the world he is a amazing player but Brady is better thats all.