L.P.'s Known As Classics, Which You Think Are Over Rated

[GangstaBoogy]

Personally...I have always felt as if I was about a year too young to love The Chronic as much as I love Doggystyle. I didn't start listenin to rap at that level til Sept. 93...before that, I just liked the radio commercial "Hip Hop hooray" and "Whoop there it is". Doggystyle was the biggest thing ever when I got into rap, and it's still my favorite album....just finished bumpin it. But with the Chronic, I'll never say it was overrated...but I feel that the NWA styled tracks were just too archaic and old soundin for me to get into.

I feel you on that for the most part. But for some reason, I can get into "Straight Outta Compton" more than I can get into "The Chronic".

[T-Dogg]

I can totally understand that somebody listening to The Chronic today for the first time wouldn't be into it. A whole different sound today out there. But, I'm also sure that the more you listen to it, the more it starts opening up to you and the more you'll like it. I personally can remember seeing the videos from The Chronic on MTV back when they first came out, and liking the songs then (though I didn't get into it that much at the time that I would've bought the albums.) But basically that sound doesn't come as something new to me today like to others, instead I remember the times and other music that came out during the time, and Chronic and Doggystyle really stand out.

But "overrated classics" in my opinion, hmm...

Wel Dogg Food would be one. It's an album that's dope as FUCK, don't get me wrong, I love that shit. But I feel that not all tracks on there are on the same level.

Somebody said Eazy Duz It. In my opinion it's never been a classic. There's classic cuts on there, no fucking doubt, but on the whole - well, pretty much the same shit as with Dogg Food.

Hard to come up with other ones. I've noticed recently that the more I listen to the older stuff, the more I like it each time. East, West, North, South, all the shit.

[J$crILLa]

. But with the Chronic, I'll never say it was overrated...but I feel that the NWA styled tracks were just too archaic and old soundin for me to get into.

thats exactly it. that sound was wat was in at the time. But listening to it for the first time u ain't used to that sound. That also way don't like new songs that sound old school. Like the Remedy

yeah i guess i dont get it, maybe im ole school, i love the ole school sound much more then the newer soundin shiiit

[everlast1986]

I'd say 'Dogg Food' it's not as good as some people on here make that album out to be.

[R-Tistic]

. But with the Chronic, I'll never say it was overrated...but I feel that the NWA styled tracks were just too archaic and old soundin for me to get into.

thats exactly it. that sound was wat was in at the time. But listening to it for the first time u ain't used to that sound. That also way don't like new songs that sound old school. Like the Remedy

yeah i guess i dont get it, maybe im ole school, i love the ole school sound much more then the newer soundin shiiit

With me....I'd say that the NWA styled tracks on this album sounded more like NWA's older leftovers than NWA's hottest tracks. I love "Gangsta Gangsta" "Express yourself" (even though it's just a loop), "Always into somethin", "Boyz n da hood" which is still one of my favorite songs. I always thought the beat on "Straight outta Compton" was more noise than funk, but I like the energy in it and still like the song as a whole. I also love "The Formula" and "Funky enough" from DOC. So it wasn't just because it sounded older than G-Funk, but because those tracks just weren't as strong to me as the previous NWA songs. I always loved the singles from Chronic, probably because those are some of the first rap videos I can remember seeing. When I was 8 and in the 3rd grade, my godsister was in town from Florida (ironically since I'm in college there now) and she was watchin MTV, and I was like "who is that?" and she was like "That's Snoop and Dre, Dre Day!! You never heard of them before??"

[Jakubs]

I'd say 'Dogg Food' it's not as good as some people on here make that album out to be.

Part of me agrees with you, mainly because I heard so much praise for the album that by the time I listened to it I didn't feel it lived up to expectations. I think that's possible with any album though. That's probably the reason the thread starter doesn't consider The Chronic a classic. Albums rarely live up to their hype, mostly because people are expecting something that knocks them on their ass the first time they hear it. I also think that the more you listen to albums they tend to grow on you. To the thread starter, that might very well be the situation with The Chronic. I couldn't get into N.W.A when I first heard them, and now I love the albums. The sounds heard in rap now are completely different from the late-80s and early-90s, so it a lot of it depends on what you're used to and what sound you heard first.

As for albums that are not personal classics, The 7 Day Theory would be one of those albums. I always preferred All Eyez On Me. I think the albums have two different styles, with the dark themes dominating The 7 Day Theory, which is not my preference. I also heard All Eyez On Me first which could explain why I prefer that album.

[Eddie G.]

Whether or not you like The Chronic, it is a classic because it pioneered the West Coast sound, arguably the sound for Modern Rap period.

[Lunatic]

I'd say 'Dogg Food' it's not as good as some people on here make that album out to be.

Part of me agrees with you, mainly because I heard so much praise for the album that by the time I listened to it I didn't feel it lived up to expectations. I think that's possible with any album though. That's probably the reason the thread starter doesn't consider The Chronic a classic. Albums rarely live up to their hype, mostly because people are expecting something that knocks them on their ass the first time they hear it. I also think that the more you listen to albums they tend to grow on you. To the thread starter, that might very well be the situation with The Chronic. I couldn't get into N.W.A when I first heard them, and now I love the albums. The sounds heard in rap now are completely different from the late-80s and early-90s, so it a lot of it depends on what you're used to and what sound you heard first.

As for albums that are not personal classics, The 7 Day Theory would be one of those albums. I always preferred All Eyez On Me. I think the albums have two different styles, with the dark themes dominating The 7 Day Theory, which is not my preference. I also heard All Eyez On Me first which could explain why I prefer that album.

I believe you. Ofcourse I'll give it a few more listens, to see if it grows on me. Like I said I'm relatively young, but a big west coast rap fan, so I been going back and listenting to old skool west classics. And after 1 listen, I already loved the following albums:

Both N.W.A.'s
Maad Circle's 1st L.P. (WC & Coolio)
Low Profile (WC & DJ Alladin)
D.O.C.'s No One Can Do It Better
Warren G's Regulate...G-Funk Era
Mack 10's first 2 L.P.'s
Ice Cube's first 2 L.P.'s


And I expected the chronic to fall under that category for me, and it really didn't.

I also agree with the guy who said whether I like it or not, it's a classic, Just not in my personal opinion.

[Sweet & Tender Hooligan]

Reasonable doubt and ready to die = the most over rated albums in history.

[S.J]

The only one that i'd say is overrated is Warren G - Regulate G Funk Era. Regulate is classic but I don't think the rest of the album is, It has good production but Warren G isn't that great of a rapper.

I'd say all the other albums are classic, especially The Chronic, In my opinion thats the best rap album ever made, I don't know how anyone can't like it.

[Lunatic]

The only one that i'd say is overrated is Warren G - Regulate G Funk Era. Regulate is classic but I don't think the rest of the album is, It has good production but Warren G isn't that great of a rapper.

I'd say all the other albums are classic, especially The Chronic, In my opinion thats the best rap album ever made, I don't know how anyone can't like it.

I feel that way about regulate..g-funk era. I thought it was bangin' beginning to end.

[Juronimo]

Game - Documentary
How anyone can think that album is classic is beyond me, the album is barely above average. Outside of Higher, Start From Scratch and Where I'm From, the rest of the album is ehh.

Chronic 2001
Overrated in my opinion. There are some brilliant songs on here, but there are some wack songs on here as well and there's not really an album feel to it. It feels more like a collection than an album. Streetz is a Mutha dropped the same day and it's way better.

Ras Kass - Soul on Ice
Ras Kass is off beat half the time and the production is horrible. Rassassination and the unreleased Van Gogh/Golden Child music is way better.

Warren G - Regulate the G Funk Era
This is a great album but there's not enough to it to call it classic.

Dogg Pound - Dogg Food
See above.

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint
Both average albums, both horribly overrated. You compare Reasonable Doubt to albums that dropped that same year, like Atliens, All Eyes on Me, Makaveli, The Score, It Was Written, Stakes is High, Ironman, Bow Down, and Reasonable Doubt is not on that level. Blueprint, I just don't see what's so great about that album. That annoying chipmunk sound was beaten to death and Jay-Z's occasional attempts at sincerity were transparent, especially when they're interspersed between the "I have more money than you" songs.

Nas - Illmatic
It's a good album but not good enough to be a classic. Nas has made 2 albums better than Illmatic IMO. Compare that album to similar albums that dropped around that time, like De La Soul's Bahloone Mindstate and Raekwan's Cuban Linx or even Mobb Deep's The Infamous and I don't think Illmatic is on that level.

[Jakubs]

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint
Both average albums, both horribly overrated. You compare Reasonable Doubt to albums that dropped that same year, like Atliens, All Eyes on Me, Makaveli, The Score, It Was Written, Stakes is High, Ironman, Bow Down, and Reasonable Doubt is not on that level. Blueprint, I just don't see what's so great about that album. That annoying chipmunk sound was beaten to death and Jay-Z's occasional attempts at sincerity were transparent, especially when they're interspersed between the "I have more money than you" songs.

I never realized how many great albums dropped in 1996. What an overall great year for hip hop.

[BIGG-A]

damn, u listing to the same albums as all of us.

Maybe u should go back to the oldies...lol
ha ha

[evan the dude]

Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint
Both average albums, both horribly overrated. You compare Reasonable Doubt to albums that dropped that same year, like Atliens, All Eyes on Me, Makaveli, The Score, It Was Written, Stakes is High, Ironman, Bow Down, and Reasonable Doubt is not on that level. Blueprint, I just don't see what's so great about that album. That annoying chipmunk sound was beaten to death and Jay-Z's occasional attempts at sincerity were transparent, especially when they're interspersed between the "I have more money than you" songs.

lol, amen to that. couldn't agree more.