Bad business (Kokane for example)

[Nima - Dubcnn.com]

hard liquor with game and all that stuff, he shud work with the top rappers

one last time, Hard Liquor had Jelly Roll singing, NOT Kokane lol.

[The King]

There's too many things stopping Kokane from selling. First of all no one outside of this forum is checking for him. His rapping style is dusgusting. His singing is only liked by fans in Southern California. His name is gonna cause a lot of problems for him. And the songs he makes are just not good. He's best if used for hooks on old school sounding songs.

He released one of the best west coast albums of the year man. Painkillers was easy top 5, and my favorite album of the year, better then DA. Kokane has a good ear for the beats, is a real artist, and writes his own stuff. He has a unique style, and isn't the same lame assed rapper. How many rappers are their like the Game, or Xzibit? Tons, their everywhere. Its so f*cking boring. They all sound the same. How many rappers like Kokane? None like him. Hes original. Now maybe you like listening to the same shit over and over, but when you want something real, something original, go with kokane. His flow is unmatched, just check out "Way you do", no artist I can think of can touch that.

[Tanjential]

I don't always feel like that about that, but sometimes I do and I see where you're coming from, Kokane is cool to me too. He's really funky.

-T

[GangstaBoogy]

i agree with everything you said except the southern california thing, that's awful specific, you really think only so cal?

damn, that's brutal.

-T

Not literally, but yeah for the most part. People are drawn to him cuz he's usually on some p-funk type shiet. That's not hot anymore. Like xander said, his best work was singing hooks for Snoop on "The Last Meal". No disrespect to Kokane or nothin, but its true

There's too many things stopping Kokane from selling. First of all no one outside of this forum is checking for him. His rapping style is dusgusting. His singing is only liked by fans in Southern California. His name is gonna cause a lot of problems for him. And the songs he makes are just not good. He's best if used for hooks on old school sounding songs.

He released one of the best west coast albums of the year man. Painkillers was easy top 5, and my favorite album of the year, better then DA. Kokane has a good ear for the beats, is a real artist, and writes his own stuff. He has a unique style, and isn't the same lame assed rapper. How many rappers are their like the Game, or Xzibit? Tons, their everywhere. Its so f*cking boring. They all sound the same. How many rappers like Kokane? None like him. Hes original. Now maybe you like listening to the same shit over and over, but when you want something real, something original, go with kokane. His flow is unmatched, just check out "Way you do", no artist I can think of can touch that.

You and Detox need to grow up real fast. It's almost sad how the two of you can't say anything without either worshiping 50 or hating on Game. I didn't mention him in this thread AT ALL but you still felt the need to throw his name at me.

[XaNdEr]

one last time, Hard Liquor had Jelly Roll singing, NOT Kokane lol.

soryr mr. correct-me-if-im-wrong

but there was rumors bout game and kokane recording a song (or 2) together for DA, so yeah, i thought they made this song and just left it off, i guess since he got involved with g-unit (was even talk of him signin to g-unit records) game said no or somthin, i dunno, its all good man, its jelly roll in that case, but the meanin of what i said is clear 

[The King]

i agree with everything you said except the southern california thing, that's awful specific, you really think only so cal?

damn, that's brutal.

-T

Not literally, but yeah for the most part. People are drawn to him cuz he's usually on some p-funk type shiet. That's not hot anymore. Like xander said, his best work was singing hooks for Snoop on "The Last Meal". No disrespect to Kokane or nothin, but its true

There's too many things stopping Kokane from selling. First of all no one outside of this forum is checking for him. His rapping style is dusgusting. His singing is only liked by fans in Southern California. His name is gonna cause a lot of problems for him. And the songs he makes are just not good. He's best if used for hooks on old school sounding songs.

He released one of the best west coast albums of the year man. Painkillers was easy top 5, and my favorite album of the year, better then DA. Kokane has a good ear for the beats, is a real artist, and writes his own stuff. He has a unique style, and isn't the same lame assed rapper. How many rappers are their like the Game, or Xzibit? Tons, their everywhere. Its so f*cking boring. They all sound the same. How many rappers like Kokane? None like him. Hes original. Now maybe you like listening to the same shit over and over, but when you want something real, something original, go with kokane. His flow is unmatched, just check out "Way you do", no artist I can think of can touch that.

You and Detox need to grow up real fast. It's almost sad how the two of you can't say anything without either worshiping 50 or hating on Game. I didn't mention him in this thread AT ALL but you still felt the need to throw his name at me.

When people are saying that kokane isn't a great rapper, but they worship the ground Game walks on, doesn't it make sense for me to compare the two? Heres an example. I love Jay-Z, I think hes the greatest rapper alive, but I also hate Nas. If I go into a thread about Nas, and say "He ain't shit." Would it not be a logical reply to say "How can you hate Nas when you love Jay-Z." If I like Jay-Z, then I compare all the music I don't like to him. I ask the question, How can I love Jay-Z and hate Nas. Its logical. I hate one superior rapper and like the worse rapper.

I wasn't even dissing Game. I stated a fact. Game is a generic rapper, who we've all heard before. His character is played out. I was simply saying, after 15 years of hearing songs which sound EXACTLY like Game's, it gets old. Hes nothing new, nothing special. I don't see how anyone would disagree.

You guys hate on Banks, Yayo, Spider Loc, and 50 Cent all the time. I hate on Game all the time. Someone said kokane isn't a good rapper, while Game isn't a great one either. So why does that person think Game is so much better. I want to know why this person loves Game more then kokane. And this little analaogy can apply to almost any thread.

[GangstaBoogy]

i agree with everything you said except the southern california thing, that's awful specific, you really think only so cal?

damn, that's brutal.

-T

Not literally, but yeah for the most part. People are drawn to him cuz he's usually on some p-funk type shiet. That's not hot anymore. Like xander said, his best work was singing hooks for Snoop on "The Last Meal". No disrespect to Kokane or nothin, but its true

There's too many things stopping Kokane from selling. First of all no one outside of this forum is checking for him. His rapping style is dusgusting. His singing is only liked by fans in Southern California. His name is gonna cause a lot of problems for him. And the songs he makes are just not good. He's best if used for hooks on old school sounding songs.

He released one of the best west coast albums of the year man. Painkillers was easy top 5, and my favorite album of the year, better then DA. Kokane has a good ear for the beats, is a real artist, and writes his own stuff. He has a unique style, and isn't the same lame assed rapper. How many rappers are their like the Game, or Xzibit? Tons, their everywhere. Its so f*cking boring. They all sound the same. How many rappers like Kokane? None like him. Hes original. Now maybe you like listening to the same shit over and over, but when you want something real, something original, go with kokane. His flow is unmatched, just check out "Way you do", no artist I can think of can touch that.

You and Detox need to grow up real fast. It's almost sad how the two of you can't say anything without either worshiping 50 or hating on Game. I didn't mention him in this thread AT ALL but you still felt the need to throw his name at me.

When people are saying that kokane isn't a great rapper, but they worship the ground Game walks on, doesn't it make sense for me to compare the two? Heres an example. I love Jay-Z, I think hes the greatest rapper alive, but I also hate Nas. If I go into a thread about Nas, and say "He ain't shit." Would it not be a logical reply to say "How can you hate Nas when you love Jay-Z." If I like Jay-Z, then I compare all the music I don't like to him. I ask the question, How can I love Jay-Z and hate Nas. Its logical. I hate one superior rapper and like the worse rapper.

I wasn't even dissing Game. I stated a fact. Game is a generic rapper, who we've all heard before. His character is played out. I was simply saying, after 15 years of hearing songs which sound EXACTLY like Game's, it gets old. Hes nothing new, nothing special. I don't see how anyone would disagree.

You guys hate on Banks, Yayo, Spider Loc, and 50 Cent all the time. I hate on Game all the time. Someone said kokane isn't a good rapper, while Game isn't a great one either. So why does that person think Game is so much better. I want to know why this person loves Game more then kokane. And this little analaogy can apply to almost any thread.

What does Game or G-Unit have to do with anything the rest of us were talking about? Please answer that...

You're obsession is pathetic.

[The King]

^ Re-read, re-post, and re-think. The three R's of posting on a forum.

When people are saying that kokane isn't a great rapper, but they worship the ground Game walks on, doesn't it make sense for me to compare the two?

^^

[GangstaBoogy]

^Dumb post as usual. Just because some people like Game doesn't mean they "worship the ground he walks on". He's clearly the better rapper. If you disagree, then that's your opinion. No need to get butt-hurt and mention 50 and Game in EVERY post on here.

[The King]

^Dumb post as usual. Just because some people like Game doesn't mean they "worship the ground he walks on". He's clearly the better rapper. If you disagree, then that's your opinion. No need to get butt-hurt and mention 50 and Game in EVERY post on here.

And don't come up for air 'til the beat drop,
I'm the Doctors Advocate call it a sneak peak,
at the mudafukn Detox, take note grab a pen,
And let the world know the west is ridin' again,
I Graduated from Dre's school top of my class,
Treat my switches like my bitches got me dropping that ass,
Still bangin' the chronic like doggiestyle came with it,
And I roll a sticky on my bitch back while I hit it,
I done been there, done that, had beefs and won that,
5 million records on 1 plaque I hung that,
Still got Dr. Dre low ridin' in the 64',

Yes... game is a master lyrisict. Anyone who thinks Game is a good rapper is an idiot. Truth. Hes an average generic rapper and apparently you do worship the ground he walks on if you think hes any good at all. And btw, aren't you the one getting pissed off cause I mentioned Game in my post. Sorry to hurt your shallow feelings, your favorite rapper is pathetic.

[GangstaBoogy]

^oh yeah you're right, I forgot how great Kokane is...

I'm a crazy motherfucker from the streets
Ridin' in my Caddy, leanin' to the side
Eatin' deep fried pickled pigs feet
Fight lotion, I keep my lips hemmed and ashy
Buckle on beads so my shit stay nappy
Kokane you need to wash your ass
Been scratchin' my dick for a year, just found out I had crabs
You's a nasty ass negro
Yeah but I love kickin' it with them Doghouse niggas makin' them pesos
I'm a bad role model, my name is Kokane
Next it seems like I'm the worses name in the game
You won't wanna remember life is kind of scary
Sittin' alone in the dark, yellin' out bloody mary
I was born in a dark room
Pulled out a 4-5 on the doctor when I came out the womb
I said mom I wanna suck the nurses titties, cause her shit is bigger
You dirty little nigger, ah ha ha ha ha ha


On second thought, I see why you're so in love with Kokane now...
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=130135.0

He did another song with G-Unit 

and Game isn't my favorite rapper. Top 10? Yes.

[The King]

Thats one of my fav kok tracks, battlecat gave him a good beat.

[Z the laidback Virus]

^'Raise Up' was produced by Fredwreck, not Battlecat!

[Tanjential]

 wasn't even dissing Game. I stated a fact. Game is a generic rapper, who we've all heard before. His character is played out. I was simply saying, after 15 years of hearing songs which sound EXACTLY like Game's, it gets old. Hes nothing new, nothing special. I don't see how anyone would disagree.

You guys hate on Banks, Yayo, Spider Loc, and 50 Cent all the time. I hate on Game all the time. ----------------------Since when does anyone listen to west coast rap for content? Check it: East coast rap: poetry. West coast rap: music. East coast is about a message, west coast is a sonic experience. 

it's always the extreme statements that reveal a bias. if you're saying kokane is talentless, you're extreme to the point of not being credible. if you say koka is the epitome of talent, same thing. you say game's talentless, too extreme to be taken seriously. saying game's the best, once more incredible due to extremeness.

game has talent "You don't need to ride a bike/I handle bars"  "top of my class" completely rhymes with 'droppin that ass' it's not just ass/class. He has multi's often. Not talentless, that shit takes a level of talent.

Kokane is a fun sonic experience but I don't trust him as an artist to craft a piece, an artistic statement, an album the way game and his people can. Both dope sonically, which is why they're both popular on the west coast. Game has a lot of big names associated with him and his controversy, a ridiculously commercially viable list of admirable producers which is why he's popular period. MC/vocalist talents, probably about equal.

Kokane has rapping talent (original flow) and singing talent (fuck you, p-funk will always be hot) but his rap is the same themes as game's without the metacognition. metacognition is what gives game much of his appeal.

-T

-T

[3331]

i was thinking the other day about how snoop did that with half dead. i mean he mentions him and they homies but he never really helped him with steel on a mission, dead has arisen like he should have