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Re: JAY Z IS...GUILTY!GUILTY!GUILTY!OHH GUILTY!
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2001, 07:15:33 AM »

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I bet I Geezy was the judge...LoL

....lol.....
i hope he don go to jail tho....we don know what excactly happen there...so...i ain gon comment shit ...itz jus like dat rape case they put on pac back in tha dayz....
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2001, 05:56:29 PM »
THATS STRAIGHT BULLSHIT!!! i got 2 years probation just cuz i was caught up in the crime scene FUCK DAMN BITCH!!!! man i wish i had money man
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Re: JAY Z IS...GUILTY!GUILTY!GUILTY!OHH GUILTY!
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2001, 07:09:28 PM »

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....lol.....
i hope he don go to jail tho....we don know what excactly happen there...so...i ain gon comment shit ...itz jus like dat rape case they put on pac back in tha dayz....



How is this like Pac's rape case?

Jay Z PLEADED GUILTY..... he admitted he did it.
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2001, 04:36:54 AM »
Just because Jay-Z made a guilty plea doesn't mean that he is guilty of the crime.  I took 2 years of law enforcement and I know how trial procedings work.  There is a pre-trial period, in which both sides try to come to a decision in the case that both sides will agree with, before the media can get their grubby hands all over an entire trial.  The sentence in these cases is rarely made by the judge, it is an agreement by both sides, which means that Jigga(and his lawyers) agreed to plea guilty on the charges to receive a lower sentence, and Lance "Un"Rivera(and his lawyers) had to also agree.

4 years ago I was caught up in a case of robbery, which the original sentence was 6 months-2 years in jail, I went through the pre-trial procedings and got everything knocked down to 6 months probation.  It all really depends on how you play the game, and if you understand all of your options, not if you have the money(although celebrity status doesn't hurt, but look at money launderers, they usually have huge amounts of money and they still get sentenced according to thier crimes)

All I'm trying to say is that just because Jay-Z pleaded guilty doesn't mean that he did the crime.  If he would have gone through the trial procedings, which would have cost him a lot of money, look at OJ he's broke now, and then there's the chance that the jury would have held a bias against the stereotypical rap image and found him guilty on all charges, putting him on lock for years.
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2001, 08:12:41 AM »

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Just because Jay-Z made a guilty plea doesn't mean that he is guilty of the crime.  I took 2 years of law enforcement and I know how trial procedings work.  There is a pre-trial period, in which both sides try to come to a decision in the case that both sides will agree with, before the media can get their grubby hands all over an entire trial.  The sentence in these cases is rarely made by the judge, it is an agreement by both sides, which means that Jigga(and his lawyers) agreed to plea guilty on the charges to receive a lower sentence, and Lance "Un"Rivera(and his lawyers) had to also agree.

4 years ago I was caught up in a case of robbery, which the original sentence was 6 months-2 years in jail, I went through the pre-trial procedings and got everything knocked down to 6 months probation.  It all really depends on how you play the game, and if you understand all of your options, not if you have the money(although celebrity status doesn't hurt, but look at money launderers, they usually have huge amounts of money and they still get sentenced according to thier crimes)

All I'm trying to say is that just because Jay-Z pleaded guilty doesn't mean that he did the crime.  If he would have gone through the trial procedings, which would have cost him a lot of money, look at OJ he's broke now, and then there's the chance that the jury would have held a bias against the stereotypical rap image and found him guilty on all charges, putting him on lock for years.


You do have a point, alot of people do plead guilty so they can get a lesser sentence without having to go thru court & have things exposed to the media, having the risk of getting found guilty, & if that happens you get harsher punishment.

However, on the other hand, the LAW must have had good enough evidence pointing to Jay-Z doing the crime, if they didn't, then Jay Z could have pleaded Not Guilty & waited for a jury to aqquit him.

So if the law had enough evidence & he pleaded guilty, I would say there is a good chance that he was really guilty.

I see your point though, I just thought I would give some other arguements to the case.
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Re: JAY Z IS...GUILTY!GUILTY!GUILTY!OHH GUILTY!
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2001, 10:42:46 AM »
i ain sayin dat him pleadin waz like pacz trial...im sayin this whole shit of not know weather he iz guilty or not reminds of it....ya know?.....just to say it won change my mind towards hiz music or somethin fucked up like dis....
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2001, 04:23:03 PM »

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i ain sayin dat him pleadin waz like pacz trial...im sayin this whole shit of not know weather he iz guilty or not reminds of it....ya know?.....just to say it won change my mind towards hiz music or somethin fucked up like dis....


No.... You're supposed to KNOW he's guilty when he says he is... he PLEADED GUILTY!!!

Damn... you gotta be a real big fan to back up Jay Z's innocence when HE'S TELLING YOU HE'S GUILTY HIMSELF!
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2001, 08:33:57 PM »
Yeah, He Oughta Done Like I Did.  See, I Get Brought Up On Charges All The Time, You Know, Knockin' People Out.  So I Just Intimidate The Judge, And Get Off Every Time.


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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2001, 07:33:31 AM »
Just because he pleaded guilty doesn't make him guilty.  He's a well known black figure.  He could've got jail time just for that in the trial.  I rather go with three years probation than risk the chance of getting 15 years.
 

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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2001, 08:27:13 AM »
man...this iz kinda innocent to believe it...even if he said hE"z guilty.....it might be hiz lawyers tactik....ya know?....
i ain sayin weather he iz guilty or not cauze i dunno....and i also dunno what he meant when he waz claimin he ain guilty....
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2001, 10:08:13 AM »
Shit, has anyone ever thought about this: what would happen if C_R_O_N_I_C_I and I_GEEZY were to meet to discuss Jigga's status in the game????? C_R_O_N_I_C_I haaaaaaaaaaaaaates Jigga and I_GEEZY looooooooooves him... LOL... That could be something to see... Lol...
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Re: JAY Z IS...GUILTY!GUILTY!GUILTY!OHH GUILTY!
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2001, 08:20:00 AM »
lol
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