RND 4. Marino VS Montana

[Don Jacob]

1. Edging out Elway to make it to the semi finals , Marino is one step away from competing with Favre for the greatest QB according to DUBCC.....

2. .....however, number 1 Montana has been murdering the competition and is the only QB left seeded higher than finalist Favre

3. Brett Favre, with the largest margin of victories in these playoffs, earns a 4th round BYE right to the finals, and he'll need it. With Marino , the only qb above him in overall statistics, and montana, the only qb with more superbowl appearances on the wing, Favre is in for a huge battle.

[swangin and bangin]

u allready know
the greatest of all QB's JO?E MONTANA


*he did have jerry rice as a reciever

[Shallow]

I always felt that if Marino had a defense like the Niners he'd have at least 3 Superbowls (one of which would have been over Montana). It's really close and I obviously wouldn't mind if I had one guy over the other, but on a terrible team with no o-line and no run game I'd probably rather have Marino because he is quicker to pass, has a better arm, and I think better vision. That's the difference for me. Marino but only by a hair.

[MIAMI4LIFE]

Montana did have Rice but when he met Marino head to head in the Superbowl he didn't have Jerry and Miami had a great team that year they were 14-2, and the Niners won so that is proof enough that Joe is the GOAT not to mention the 3 other rings he got

[WC Iz Active]

Montana = G.O.A.T.

["THE" MoSav]

I always felt that if Marino had a defense like the Niners he'd have at least 3 Superbowls (one of which would have been over Montana). It's really close and I obviously wouldn't mind if I had one guy over the other, but on a terrible team with no o-line and no run game I'd probably rather have Marino because he is quicker to pass, has a better arm, and I think better vision. That's the difference for me. Marino but only by a hair.

please STOP right there...better vision?? LOL! Wow. Better Arm and Quicker release yes. Nobody saw the field like Joe. And Joe could make any necesary throw, not to mention he could get himself out of trouble much better then Marino could, montana wasnt super fast but he good escapabilty and was FANTASTIC at giving himself more time . And Marino had PLENTY OF WEAPONS. Montana took a team with NO OFFENSIVE WEAPONS WHATSOEVER In 93, great defense but Montana WON Games for the Cheifs. You gotta be kidding me Shallow. I love how u take shit away from people cuz there defense was good. HAHAHA! yet you talk about how underrated Aikman was, like his defense wasnt TOP 5 EVERY YEAR....Youre so biased its disgusting 

["THE" MoSav]

Montana did have Rice but when he met Marino head to head in the Superbowl he didn't have Jerry and Miami had a great team that year they were 14-2, and the Niners won so that is proof enough that Joe is the GOAT not to mention the 3 other rings he got

real spit. Shallow sees Montana like Brady and Marino like Manning so you know which ways hes gonna vote...lol

[eS El Duque]

oh toughy..uh...JOE!

[Shallow]

I always felt that if Marino had a defense like the Niners he'd have at least 3 Superbowls (one of which would have been over Montana). It's really close and I obviously wouldn't mind if I had one guy over the other, but on a terrible team with no o-line and no run game I'd probably rather have Marino because he is quicker to pass, has a better arm, and I think better vision. That's the difference for me. Marino but only by a hair.

please STOP right there...better vision?? LOL! Wow. Better Arm and Quicker release yes. Nobody saw the field like Joe. And Joe could make any necesary throw, not to mention he could get himself out of trouble much better then Marino could, montana wasnt super fast but he good escapabilty and was FANTASTIC at giving himself more time . And Marino had PLENTY OF WEAPONS. Montana took a team with NO OFFENSIVE WEAPONS WHATSOEVER In 93, great defense but Montana WON Games for the Cheifs. You gotta be kidding me Shallow. I love how u take shit away from people cuz there defense was good. HAHAHA! yet you talk about how underrated Aikman was, like his defense wasnt TOP 5 EVERY YEAR....Youre so biased its disgusting 

I was talking about pocket vision, particularly on a team where he would need to get the ball away fast. You cannot deny that Marino was better at getting the ball away faster than Montana was. Joe was better throwing on the move, but that doesn't mean much if the line collapses. I just said I'd rather have Marino on a bad team then Joe but I made it very clear I'd love to have Joe. Just because you give too much credit to the QB for a winning season and Superbowl doesn't mean I have to. The first year Monatana was on the Chiefs he split his duties with Krieg and they were 11-5, the year before they had just Kried and they were 10-6. Yeah they were out in the first game of the playoffs but after Kried left and it was just Montana they were out in the first game once again and who took out Joe Cool in the playoffs with a very similar team to the Cheifs? Why none other than Big Dan Marino who outplayed Monatana all day if I remember correctly. And I'll take Marcus Allen on on my team in the big games over Irving Fryar any day of the week. Allen had over 100 AP yards that game. And what kept ol' Dan out of the Superbowl that year? It wasn't his 23 for 38 with 3TDs and no INTs against San Diego. Maybe it was the missed FG at the end of the game by Stoyanovich. Or maybe it was Bernie Parmalee getting tackled in the endzone for a safety earlier on. Either one of those plays lost that game and kept Marino out of another Superbowl. (That being said he probably would have lost to the Niners that year again particularly with Miami's bad D that year). The only times in Dan's career where his defense was even in the same league as the offense or better (except the Rookie season) he had to go against Buffalo where the Bills scored 44 points to Miami's 34. Championship's aren't worth much when you're picking individual players for your team and in this case I'd pick Marino.

[Shallow]

Montana did have Rice but when he met Marino head to head in the Superbowl he didn't have Jerry and Miami had a great team that year they were 14-2, and the Niners won so that is proof enough that Joe is the GOAT not to mention the 3 other rings he got

real spit. Shallow sees Montana like Brady and Marino like Manning so you know which ways hes gonna vote...lol

That's not a true at all. I'll compare Manning to Marino but I wouldn't even consider Brady over Montana. Not even close. Brady's more like Jim Plunkett or Terry Bradshaw in my eyes. Yeah they win Superbowls but the teams htey were probably would have won with any number of QBs in their place. That's my view. I think Marino could have had 4 with SF. I don't think anyone else of the era could have won more than 1 or 2.

["THE" MoSav]

I always felt that if Marino had a defense like the Niners he'd have at least 3 Superbowls (one of which would have been over Montana). It's really close and I obviously wouldn't mind if I had one guy over the other, but on a terrible team with no o-line and no run game I'd probably rather have Marino because he is quicker to pass, has a better arm, and I think better vision. That's the difference for me. Marino but only by a hair.

please STOP right there...better vision?? LOL! Wow. Better Arm and Quicker release yes. Nobody saw the field like Joe. And Joe could make any necesary throw, not to mention he could get himself out of trouble much better then Marino could, montana wasnt super fast but he good escapabilty and was FANTASTIC at giving himself more time . And Marino had PLENTY OF WEAPONS. Montana took a team with NO OFFENSIVE WEAPONS WHATSOEVER In 93, great defense but Montana WON Games for the Cheifs. You gotta be kidding me Shallow. I love how u take shit away from people cuz there defense was good. HAHAHA! yet you talk about how underrated Aikman was, like his defense wasnt TOP 5 EVERY YEAR....Youre so biased its disgusting 

I was talking about pocket vision, particularly on a team where he would need to get the ball away fast. You cannot deny that Marino was better at getting the ball away faster than Montana was. Joe was better throwing on the move, but that doesn't mean much if the line collapses. I just said I'd rather have Marino on a bad team then Joe but I made it very clear I'd love to have Joe. Just because you give too much credit to the QB for a winning season and Superbowl doesn't mean I have to. The first year Monatana was on the Chiefs he split his duties with Krieg and they were 11-5, the year before they had just Kried and they were 10-6. Yeah they were out in the first game of the playoffs but after Kried left and it was just Montana they were out in the first game once again and who took out Joe Cool in the playoffs with a very similar team to the Cheifs? Why none other than Big Dan Marino who outplayed Monatana all day if I remember correctly. And I'll take Marcus Allen on on my team in the big games over Irving Fryar any day of the week. Allen had over 100 AP yards that game. And what kept ol' Dan out of the Superbowl that year? It wasn't his 23 for 38 with 3TDs and no INTs against San Diego. Maybe it was the missed FG at the end of the game by Stoyanovich. Or maybe it was Bernie Parmalee getting tackled in the endzone for a safety earlier on. Either one of those plays lost that game and kept Marino out of another Superbowl. (That being said he probably would have lost to the Niners that year again particularly with Miami's bad D that year). The only times in Dan's career where his defense was even in the same league as the offense or better (except the Rookie season) he had to go against Buffalo where the Bills scored 44 points to Miami's 34. Championship's aren't worth much when you're picking individual players for your team and in this case I'd pick Marino.

all speculation. There are always big plays that change games, im sure 80 percent of playoff games u can say "what if" cuz every game is that close. Id rather have Montana did u ever see him in superbowls? The guy was NUTS

[Shallow]

I always felt that if Marino had a defense like the Niners he'd have at least 3 Superbowls (one of which would have been over Montana). It's really close and I obviously wouldn't mind if I had one guy over the other, but on a terrible team with no o-line and no run game I'd probably rather have Marino because he is quicker to pass, has a better arm, and I think better vision. That's the difference for me. Marino but only by a hair.

please STOP right there...better vision?? LOL! Wow. Better Arm and Quicker release yes. Nobody saw the field like Joe. And Joe could make any necesary throw, not to mention he could get himself out of trouble much better then Marino could, montana wasnt super fast but he good escapabilty and was FANTASTIC at giving himself more time . And Marino had PLENTY OF WEAPONS. Montana took a team with NO OFFENSIVE WEAPONS WHATSOEVER In 93, great defense but Montana WON Games for the Cheifs. You gotta be kidding me Shallow. I love how u take shit away from people cuz there defense was good. HAHAHA! yet you talk about how underrated Aikman was, like his defense wasnt TOP 5 EVERY YEAR....Youre so biased its disgusting 

I was talking about pocket vision, particularly on a team where he would need to get the ball away fast. You cannot deny that Marino was better at getting the ball away faster than Montana was. Joe was better throwing on the move, but that doesn't mean much if the line collapses. I just said I'd rather have Marino on a bad team then Joe but I made it very clear I'd love to have Joe. Just because you give too much credit to the QB for a winning season and Superbowl doesn't mean I have to. The first year Monatana was on the Chiefs he split his duties with Krieg and they were 11-5, the year before they had just Kried and they were 10-6. Yeah they were out in the first game of the playoffs but after Kried left and it was just Montana they were out in the first game once again and who took out Joe Cool in the playoffs with a very similar team to the Cheifs? Why none other than Big Dan Marino who outplayed Monatana all day if I remember correctly. And I'll take Marcus Allen on on my team in the big games over Irving Fryar any day of the week. Allen had over 100 AP yards that game. And what kept ol' Dan out of the Superbowl that year? It wasn't his 23 for 38 with 3TDs and no INTs against San Diego. Maybe it was the missed FG at the end of the game by Stoyanovich. Or maybe it was Bernie Parmalee getting tackled in the endzone for a safety earlier on. Either one of those plays lost that game and kept Marino out of another Superbowl. (That being said he probably would have lost to the Niners that year again particularly with Miami's bad D that year). The only times in Dan's career where his defense was even in the same league as the offense or better (except the Rookie season) he had to go against Buffalo where the Bills scored 44 points to Miami's 34. Championship's aren't worth much when you're picking individual players for your team and in this case I'd pick Marino.

all speculation. There are always big plays that change games, im sure 80 percent of playoff games u can say "what if" cuz every game is that close. Id rather have Montana did u ever see him in superbowls? The guy was NUTS

It's speculation to think that Marino would have been in the Superbowl against SF if the kick was made? I guess it's also speculation to say NE wouldn't have made it to the '01/'02 Superbowl if Vini missed his kick. I guess there was still a chance that Brady could have come in as a linebacker when Oakland was going to kneel the ball and and cause Gannon to fumble. (Then he'd obviously recover the fumble and score himself). It was speculation to say KC was a winning team before Montana? Or was it speculation to say Marino took Montana out of the playoffs that year? What exactly is speculation here? It was my preferences and opinions and stone cold facts. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that if Stoyanovich makes the kick Miami would be in the Superbowl. And there is no speculation.

Here's the speculation; if Miami had a running game that was worth shit they would have eaten up more playtime in the second half and maintained their lead for the victory.

["THE" MoSav]

yeah it is speculation. They still would have had to beat the Steelers IN PITT to get to the SB. So yes if Stoyanivich makes that fg they are in the AFC CHAMPINSHIP. BUT ITS SPECULATION TO SAY THEYD BE IN THE SB! 

[Shallow]

yeah it is speculation. They still would have had to beat the Steelers IN PITT to get to the SB. So yes if Stoyanivich makes that fg they are in the AFC CHAMPINSHIP. BUT ITS SPECULATION TO SAY THEYD BE IN THE SB! 

Touche. Forgot about that game. For some reason I thought Miami/SD was the AFC championship (a case of memory loss happens happens to everyone I guess, like you and Manning's 2 INTs against Pit last year). I do think they would have beaten the Steelers though, but I do take back the statement that the 1 kick cost them the Superbowl spot as far as it being a fact is concerned.


For the record if I thought Marino would have gotten more votes I would have voted Montana. That's just how close I put them. It's not like Manning and Brady. I'd never vote for Brady over Manning in anything.

["THE" MoSav]

yeah it is speculation. They still would have had to beat the Steelers IN PITT to get to the SB. So yes if Stoyanivich makes that fg they are in the AFC CHAMPINSHIP. BUT ITS SPECULATION TO SAY THEYD BE IN THE SB! 

Touche. Forgot about that game. For some reason I thought Miami/SD was the AFC championship (a case of memory loss happens happens to everyone I guess, like you and Manning's 2 INTs against Pit last year). I do think they would have beaten the Steelers though, but I do take back the statement that the 1 kick cost them the Superbowl spot as far as it being a fact is concerned.


For the record if I thought Marino would have gotten more votes I would have voted Montana. That's just how close I put them. It's not like Manning and Brady. I'd never vote for Brady over Manning in anything.

u were right then, i am right now