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Big BpG

Blueprint... #1 this week...
« on: September 19, 2001, 07:04:10 PM »
Well Jay-Z did it, the blueprint will be the number 1 album this week with more than 426,000 albums sold. At number 4 you get Fabulous with "Ghetto Fabulous"

I myself can understand the amazing sales of his album, but the album dissapointed me... quickly too repetitive with oversampling... I was hoping for more.
vol 2 is still my fav.

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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2001, 08:02:41 PM »
I myself can understand the amazing sales of his album, but the album dissapointed me... quickly too repetitive with oversampling... I was hoping for more.>>

5 mic classic and youre going to try to complain?  Oh well-youre open to your opinion--I wont hate.
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2001, 09:01:30 PM »
Yea, im going to complain... nothing too impressive out of this impressive...
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2001, 09:28:47 PM »
I'll be more specific here because I really don't see how Jay-Z can be Rap's Idol, like 2pac was. I was at the Sohh board and there was this guy who had the exact same question and he made a great point, a very great point in my opinion, he said


I don't hate him as a PERSON. As an artist, I can not fathom a grasp on the fact that silly catch phrases like "Jigga What? Jigga Who?", "Can I get a What-what?"..."Fa Shizzal my nizzal, I use to dribble down in V.A." are "legendary" if I can call it that...


exactly... yes, he makes nice music, but CLASSIC? LEGENDARY? not to me. Jay-Z's music content and subject wise is close to my favorite rapper, Snoop. However Snoop isnt mentioned even close to Jay, and I ain't complaining about it either. Snoop, he's my man, he raps what I like, Jay doesn't for me, but the boundaries between him and Snoop aren't big. Jay-Z isn't really RUNNING this game. The media is. Jay-Z isn't better than the man sitting next to him. There are so many rappers out there and to see him get 5 mics, doesn't make me mad, but it gets me thinking... how? There is nothing innovative out of the album, nothing shocking, nothing to good to passup.

The dude at Sohh also brought up this point


I honestly sit down and try to vibe to his music...and it sounds like he's targeting for MIDDLE SCHOOL/SIMPLE-MINDED heads! There's nothing innovative nor intellectual about him...he throws in some R&B samples/hooks, makes his beats a bit more kiddy, he goes platnium...it doesn't make any sense!


The point I make here is about the sampling. Hip Hop has revolved around sampling, without records and sampling, you couldn't have rap. Jay's title "Blueprint" might be referring to the sampling, because out of 13 tracks on his album, More than half are of classic samples from the 70's. The creativeness isn't there in my opinion when you sample too much. Dre is the man when it comes to sampling, especially on his old records, yet he was very creative with it, very innovative and here, Jay seems to grab a whole section of a song, use it as a hook, loop the beat and rap over it. Nothing innovative here, if you're going to give JayZ the 5 mics for his music, then you need to give those other artists he is sampling major credit. They were the innovators, they were the creators of that beat, that music, those lyrics... but Jay seems to take them over and their credit is overshadowed.


What I'm basically saying is why does the media, the fans proclaim him as the best of Hip Hop now... work wise, I can't give it to him... you can work a lot like Jay, but many others work just as hard, but to stand him above all is like what they did to DMX when his first album dropped, he was the best, then Eminem, now JayZ... out of those three, Eminem definetly deserved it... I don't know, I'm not bashing him, and I don't hate him... but like they say...


Jigga Jigga, That Nigga Jigga

He Did It Again... Haterz Dont Like, But They Gotta Fuck With It Cause The Flows So Tight...

-Jay-Z


Hmmm, thats a thought for me

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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2001, 10:20:32 PM »
yeah great point

but waitl till Bones Or Wash comes out, they gonna be both at # 1 at the same time, trust me
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2001, 02:40:02 AM »
It was #1 with 425,000 copies sold.  I honestly think he lost at least 100,000 in sales because of what happened in NY.  With all the shit that went down, some people probably forgot to grab it up.
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2001, 05:19:11 AM »
Jay-z is the best right now period...End of story...I'm not saying he's 2pac cause he's not... Pac was the best ever...But ain't nobody fucking with Jigga nowadays...The only guy I'll put in Jigga's class nowadays is Eminem...As far as Snoop goes to compare Snoop and Jigga is a joke... Snoop was on top in 93, 94 but he fell the fuk off...get over it man...
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2001, 05:24:49 AM »
I'm not trying to compare Snoop with Jigga, nor do I really care... I like Snoop. Period. Done. He doesn't need to be on everyones wall for me to like him, but the difference between Snoop's style and Jiggas style is very small if at all... Jigga isn't anything SPECIAL... he's been doing the same ol same ol, just like Snoop... his whole career.

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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2001, 05:37:29 AM »
Go BPG!!!!!! ;D
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2001, 05:41:03 AM »
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2001, 07:57:20 AM »
Do yall even listen to the music or do you just skim through it?  Damn..Yall need to peep tracks like "Renegades", "Song Cry", and "Blueprint".  To say those are based towards 12 year olds is a silly statement that was only said for shock value.
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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2001, 08:29:59 AM »
for once i agree with BPG, i really dont see the hip hop world's facination with Jay. i think he was in the right place at the right time when Pac and Big died, and has rode that out.

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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2001, 08:41:23 AM »

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Do yall even listen to the music or do you just skim through it?  Damn..Yall need to peep tracks like "Renegades", "Song Cry", and "Blueprint".  To say those are based towards 12 year olds is a silly statement that was only said for shock value.


Yes, I'm curretnly playing the album at the moment. Those songs are good, but not INSPIRING, not CLASSIC MATERIAL, NOT INNOVATIVE... Song Cry is a dope track, Renegades is dope for the lyrics, Blueprint, I don't feel that as much, but the material that he is presenting here isn't WHOA... 5 stars in The source! Come on, there are a lot of cd's that are just as good as Blueprint, if not better, and they get shunned because Jay-Z is Jay-Z... I don't get it... the media is looking for someone to takeover the rap game, and well... they will make Jay-Z that man.

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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2001, 09:49:00 AM »

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Jay-z is the best right now period...End of story...I'm not saying he's 2pac cause he's not... Pac was the best ever...But ain't nobody fucking with Jigga nowadays...The only guy I'll put in Jigga's class nowadays is Eminem...As far as Snoop goes to compare Snoop and Jigga is a joke... Snoop was on top in 93, 94 but he fell the fuk off...get over it man...


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Re: Blueprint... #1 this week...
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2001, 10:59:41 AM »
Keep it up Jigga....
look at it this way.. both jigga and mariah carey's albumz debuted the same week..but jigga debuted at no.1 and mariah at no.7...2 thums up to jigga!!!

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