Bill Russell & Larry Bird says Nash for MVP

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MVP3 For Nash?

By John Hareas
Posted Apr 18 2007 7:25PM
SECAUCUS, N.J., April 18, 2007 -- Bill Russell. Wilt Chamberlain. Larry Bird.

Steve Nash?

The two-time NBA MVP is on the doorstep of NBA history, on the cusp of perhaps joining the three Hall of Famers as only players to ever win the NBA MVP Award three consecutive years, a distinct honor that somehow managed to elude all-time greats Oscar Robertson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan but may not Nash.

An honor, according to Russell, should go to Nash once again.

“Nothing has changed from last year,” said Russell. “I think in terms of marketing [for the award], the way the Suns beat the Mavs the last two times should help sway it in his favor.

It was those two performances by Nash in which the Suns won both games over Dirk Nowitzki and the Mavs that has helped keep his name in the MVP running. Performances in which four of his teammates posted double figures, a selfless characteristic that helped define Bird’s legendary career.

“His ability to make other players around him better,” said Bird. “All the great players were able to do that. His style is a little different than most. He can get in the lane about any time he wants. He controls the ball as good as anybody ever has in this league and to do some of the things he does is pretty remarkable.”

How about Bird and Nash on the same team? Could you imagine? Bird certainly would have welcomed the opportunity.

“Anyone would love to play with him. Playing with guys like Steve or Magic Johnson or John Stockton, guys like that, they just make the game so much easier for everybody else. If you can hit open shots, you are going to look good.”

The Nash-Dirk debate should result in one of the closest MVP votings in years. Whether it is the closest of all time remains to be seen. In 1956-57, the second year the award was issued, another Celtics legend, Bob Cousy, edged first-year recipient Bob Pettit by a mere 11 votes.

What about co-MVPs for Nash and Dirk? In the 51 year history of the award, there has never been two players who shared the honor and Bird hopes to keep it that way.

“I hope they don’t give co-MVPs, because if Steve gets it, I want him to win it outright so he can get three in a row. But if Dirk is the better one, give it to him. I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of them.”

[wcsoldier]

I'll be down for giving the award to Nash, as a result the NBA would be looked even more as a bunch of idiots ( these so-called Xperts who vote for the award) to give three MVP in a row to a player who's gonna retire with 0 ring...

[floatin_above_everything]

I'll be down for giving the award to Nash, as a result the NBA would be looked even more as a bunch of idiots ( these so-called Xperts who vote for the award) to give three MVP in a row to a player who's gonna retire with 0 ring...

But it's not supposed to be about playoff success right? I was thinking thats the reason it gets announced before the season is over. Nash deserves it just as much as anyone else if that's the case.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

And they never picked Nash VVV

"I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of them."

[floatin_above_everything]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

[floatin_above_everything]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Why do you post bullshit without any reason? Suns are a completely different team without Nash, they are lost without him there. Amare isn't better, Marion isn't and Barbosa isn't either. I think your just upset that Nash bounced your team out 2 consecutive years.

Nash played phenominal defense today as well, and was just sitting there with blood pouring out of his nose for a half hour, still trying to get into the game.

[teecee]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today?  Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash?  They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.

Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses???  Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.

And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title?  Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments.  Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.

And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place?  Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?!  The logic  used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......

Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash?  How about in the league?  I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list. 

And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........

[jeromechickenbone]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today?  Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash?  They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.

Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses???  Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.

And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title?  Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments.  Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.

And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place?  Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?!  The logic  used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......

Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash?  How about in the league?  I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list. 

And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........

Don't you know that regardless of record the Lakers are always the best team in the NBA?  Kwame would be top 5 in the league had Michael Jordan not shattered his confidence his rookie year, Everybody on the current Laker team is better than Shaq, and teams that are in the playoffs aren't playoff teams.  If the Lakers played as good the entire season as they did in 3 quarters against the Suns in game 1, no team in NBA could touch them.  And if you point out all of these contradictions you obviously don't know shit about basketball or are retarded.

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^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today?  Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash?  They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.

Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses???  Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.

And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title?  Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments.  Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.

And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place?  Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?!  The logic  used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......

Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash?  How about in the league?  I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list. 

And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........

Don't you know that regardless of record the Lakers are always the best team in the NBA?  Kwame would be top 5 in the league had Michael Jordan not shattered his confidence his rookie year, Everybody on the current Laker team is better than Shaq, and teams that are in the playoffs aren't playoff teams.  If the Lakers played as good the entire season as they did in 3 quarters against the Suns in game 1, no team in NBA could touch them.  And if you point out all of these contradictions you obviously don't know shit about basketball or are retarded.

DAMN!  haha

[floatin_above_everything]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today?  Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash?  They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.

Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses???  Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.

And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title?  Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments.  Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.

And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place?  Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?!  The logic  used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......

Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash?  How about in the league?  I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list. 

And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........

I think he just posts crap like that just to start arguments.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today?  Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash?  They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.

Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses???  Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.

And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title?  Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments.  Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.

And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place?  Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?!  The logic  used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......

Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash?  How about in the league?  I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list. 

And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........

Of course if you take out Nash, the Suns are lost. He's the only point guard on the team who can run that offense! LOL. Barbosa is a scorer and Marcus Banks is lost...Nash means everything to that team, but it doesn't mean he's the best player. Amare and Marion are both better individual players than Nash. You say "why dont the Lakers run the Suns offense if it's so easy!?"...Because it's a jumpshooters offense and it will never win a title. And we don't even have enough jumpshooters/offensive firepower to run it to begin with...LOL@"why does it matter if Nash wins a title?". If he can't lead his team to anything past regular season succes, I guess he's not THAT valuable now, is he? Especially not "3-time consecutive MVP valuable". And nobody from your list said Nash is pound for pound the best player in the game...That's almost funnier than Steve Nash playing "phenominal defense"...LMAO


You cannot replace Kobe on the Lakers, no other player would be able to lead them to the playoffs. You cannot replace Duncan on the Spurs, no other player would make the Spurs sucha  threat. But you CAN replace Nash in the Suns' system with a high-powered point guard...A Jason Kidd, a Baron Davis, a Tony Parker...Those all have something in common. They're all players on Nash's level and they're also all NOT MVP caliber players...PeACe

[floatin_above_everything]

^No, because Nash is not close to being the best player in the league...He's the player who runs a simple offense to perfection, not an MVP. Journalists can't really seem to tell the difference nowadays.

If you think playing at that pace is simple, you really are a couch potato. Nash runs his team very well, he is one of, if not the best in the game right now, case closed.

Nash is not the best player on his team

Who the fuck is??? Don't tell me Stoudemire, did you watch the game today?  Put it this way......where would the Suns be without Nash?  They did pretty damn well without Stoudemire last year. Stoudemire IS awesome, but he isn't Nash.

Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, many players in the NBA currently say Nash is the best, so why do you think your opinion is more valid than eveyone elses???  Nash isn't superior athletically like Kobe or Lebron, but he still manages to do great things.

And really, as for Wcsoldier, why does it matter if Nash never wins a title?  Winning a title isn't easy (ask Malone, Barkley, Stockton), and if Nash doesn't win one that can't take away from his regular season accomplishments.  Besides, look at what Nash has done in the playoffs the last 3 years, he's top3-4 players in the last 3 years, from averaging almost 40 in the series against Dallas 3 years ago to what he is doing this year again, he has been nothing short of great in the playoffs and has shown he is a clutch player regardless if he wins a title or not.

And if the Suns offense is so fucking easy, why don't the Lakers run the offense but with Kobe in Nash's place?  Surely they would be as good as the Suns, right?!  The logic  used by some of you is ridiculous and obviously an attempt to somehow downplay the fact that Nash has two MVP's when Kobe has none, and the Lakers have lost two straight years to a team that somehow sucks......

Really NIK, who is more valuable to the SUns than Nash?  How about in the league?  I'm not saying the best player, but the most valuable player to their team...........lets see this list. 

And if Nash isn't close to being the best player in the league, why don't you make a list of at least 10-15 players better than him right now..........

Of course if you take out Nash, the Suns are lost. He's the only point guard on the team who can run that offense! LOL. Barbosa is a scorer and Marcus Banks is lost...Nash means everything to that team, but it doesn't mean he's the best player. Amare and Marion are both better individual players than Nash. You say "why dont the Lakers run the Suns offense if it's so easy!?"...Because it's a jumpshooters offense and it will never win a title. And we don't even have enough jumpshooters/offensive firepower to run it to begin with...LOL@"why does it matter if Nash wins a title?". If he can't lead his team to anything past regular season succes, I guess he's not THAT valuable now, is he? Especially not "3-time consecutive MVP valuable". And nobody from your list said Nash is pound for pound the best player in the game...That's almost funnier than Steve Nash playing "phenominal defense"...LMAO


You cannot replace Kobe on the Lakers, no other player would be able to lead them to the playoffs. You cannot replace Duncan on the Spurs, no other player would make the Spurs sucha  threat. But you CAN replace Nash in the Suns' system with a high-powered point guard...A Jason Kidd, a Baron Davis, a Tony Parker...Those all have something in common. They're all players on Nash's level and they're also all NOT MVP caliber players...PeACe

Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1. Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.

And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Keep hatin kid, he's better than Kobe overall and he did play great defense in game 1.

LMAO

Dude is a soldier, and not many players would be trying to get into the game with a busted nose either. Kidd, Davis and Parker would not be able to run that "Phoenix" offense because it's Nash's offense. Kidd & Davis are both MVP caliber players as well. Just because they don't take every shot doesn't mean they aren't MVP worthy.

And damn lol at Marion and Amare being individually better than Nash...nothing really to say about that except that you must be speaking out of either ignorance or bias.

LOL@At a busted nose!...That has absolutely NO affect on your basketball ability. Try a severely sprained ankle, torn labrum, pulled hamstring, hyperextended elbow, etc. Kidd was an MVP candidate 3-4 years ago and BD is never consistant enough during the regular season to be in the MVP race. It's D'Antoni's offense, not Nash's...You've shown that you have NO fucking idea what you're talking about...PeACe