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Quote from: LOUDsilence on May 28, 2007, 03:16:35 PMall 3 came correct on it... the beat definitely has that "old west" feel to it, but i still like "old west" beats, so i ain't complaining... overall i thought it was a hot track... props for this XL... looking forward to hearing more from youi can feel that my only thing is, i wonder what people think the "new west" should sound like??? most cats trying out different shit out here are just copying off east coast or southern styles.furthermore, why does any west coast hip hop with a funky twist to it get criticized so much? when kanye, krs, nas, and rakim did that "classic" song over the primo beat, nobody said "aw man this sounds like some old 1998 east coast shit". what's the difference? and im not asking rhetorically nor trying to get under anyone's skin. i'm asking this to get a good discussion going.
all 3 came correct on it... the beat definitely has that "old west" feel to it, but i still like "old west" beats, so i ain't complaining... overall i thought it was a hot track... props for this XL... looking forward to hearing more from you
When East Coast cats hop on some Boom Bap shit like that Classic joint it is dope... Reason why is because they don't do it often. How often do you hear cats like Jigga, Jim Jones, Jadakiss, Jae Millz etc. come out on some Boom Bap shit? Rarely, if at all. Out West, it seems they can't get away from that old G-Funk sound and shit gets tired, for me. Not even the West, its L.A. to be specific. Snoop and them never got over G-Funk and they've been doing it even after it burned out. So for people like me who want to hear something new, we think that shit is played. What do I think the New West should sound like? Nothing like the old West, period. When I hear a cat like Omar Cruz, I don't think Down South or New York, I think L.A. I think Cali. I think West Coast. Hes not all G-Funked out. To me thats what the New West should sound like. Ya Boy is another example. Thats what the New West should sound like to me. Its not new if it sounds like the same old shit.
i appreciate that every1 is keepin it 100% with their comments, not everyone is gonna like everything and that's all right.i've thought a little more about the discussions we've been having in this thread. i don't think that G-Funk really exists anymore, just because a West Coast artist is using aspects of a trademark sound that originated in their region doesn't make it "G-Funk". believe me, I THINK G-FUNK IS DEAD quote me on that, but Funk (and there's a massive difference between Funk & G-Funk) can still exist because it existed before rap, where u think G-Funk came from when it was hot in the 90's? basically when i sit down to make beats i listen to OG shit like Cameo, Confunkshun, Gap Band, One Way, all the great funk bands from back then, that's my favorite music on a personal level so it inspires me the most to do what I do. I feel that funk became the embodiment of our trademark sound, what we need IMO is not to take it back to the old school 1990's sound, but instead to use that musical influence to create something new. Yes, believe it or not I've been striving to create something that sounds new while still noticeably West Coast. To that end, I've taken aspects of Crunk, Hyphy, East Coast, every other subgenre in hip hop that's out there and added a little bit of it into the mix without blatantly copying. On top of that don't forget that I'm listening to other types of music besides hip hop and that's in the mix as well. Isn't that what hip hop always has been? a sort of mashup of elements? Hip hop has always incorporated elements of blues, R&B, jazz, soul, funk, you name it, it's in there somewhere. I've just found where I fit in because it's the type of stuff that I like. Besides that, in my lyrics I've upped the ante as far as content and concepts, I don't rap about stereotypical West Coast shit like chucks & 64's, there's so much more to our way of life, shit that has never been covered by any rap artists ever and I strive to bring that to the table.Furthermore, it's easy to characterize any West Coast artist as G-Funk if you hear some melody on the chorus, if you hear those smooth chords or big basslines. But think about this - under those standards, wouldn't a song like Mike Jones' "Flossin" or that song that David Banner did with Jazze Pha count as "G-Funk" too? but we don't think of it like that just because it's not from the West. Think about it...