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TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: 7even on June 06, 2007, 03:45:34 PM ---
The version of Hitler (and other politicians) on why they lost is because they didn't get enough support from home. That theory is called "Dolchstoßlegende" (trans.: the legend about being backstabbed with a dagger). A lot of politicians at home thought the war was unwinnable and openly spoke out against generals and Wilhelm. Those people were later refered to as "Die Novemberverbrecher" (trans.: the criminals of november [in reference to the capitulation in november 1918]) and accused of treason. Anti-semitism was of course involved here too, like with pretty much everything Hitler had his hands in.
I don't know if Hitler ever publically stated his view on Kaiser Wilhelm. But I do know this: He said that when Germany gave up in 1918 and when the treaty of Versailles happened, that was precisely the time when he decided to become a politician. He was 1. really disappointed because the "traitors"/"leftists"/"democrats"/Novemberverbrecher" ... whatever you wanna call them, turned their back on Wilhelm which ultimately led to capitulation and 2. very upset with how insane the treaty of Versailles was. When he became a politician and had his first speeches and shit, he claimed to go to France, go to Versailles and force them to terminate that treaty. That's why many people voted for him. And he actually really did that.
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Thanks for the info, it sounds to me like Hitler didn't blame Kaiser Wilhelm for the WW1 loss, but rather the rest of Germany that didn't give him enough support. So, is there anything you can tell me at all about the role the Jews might have played in Germany to cause the Germans to lose WW1, anything that might have caused the Nazi's to be bitter towards them?
Also, was Hitler mad at the Jews for their behaivor against Germany in WW1, or for things they did after WW1, or both? Can you explain more?
I appreciate any information you have cause I've been reading a lot these past several months about WW1 cause of the Ottoman Empire relationship with Germany, and your the first German I've talked to about all this.
trappedinhell:
--- Quote from: elmizzy on June 04, 2007, 10:54:50 PM ---You can say all you want about the other wars, but US involvement in WWII was the most necessary.
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*Z* - The Queen of Dubcc:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on June 06, 2007, 02:06:45 PM ---7EVEN, I just thought of another question I wanted to ask....
Who did Hitler blame for Germany's WW1 loss? What did Hitler think of Kaiser Wilhelm? And did Hitler feel like the Jews had sabatoged Germany in losing WW1, and is that part of where his hate stemmed from? (Because after all, it was a major victory for the Zionist Jews that the German's and Ottomans lost)
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--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on June 06, 2007, 08:17:07 PM ---
Thanks for the info, it sounds to me like Hitler didn't blame Kaiser Wilhelm for the WW1 loss, but rather the rest of Germany that didn't give him enough support. So, is there anything you can tell me at all about the role the Jews might have played in Germany to cause the Germans to lose WW1, anything that might have caused the Nazi's to be bitter towards them?
Also, was Hitler mad at the Jews for their behaivor against Germany in WW1, or for things they did after WW1, or both? Can you explain more?
I appreciate any information you have cause I've been reading a lot these past several months about WW1 cause of the Ottoman Empire relationship with Germany, and your the first German I've talked to about all this.
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brian now seriously, have jews ever done anything to you, like making you touch their dicks or lick their balls...?!
its just that it somehow seems to me that you are kinda traumatized & obsessed with them
GimmeYourShoes:
In 1917 USA got in to the war mostly to secure economical and political benefits.
What drew United States in to the world war =
- If German had won the war, USA's war loans and investments in Europe would have been in danger.
- Germany supported Mexico when it was in war against USA 1915-1917. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram)
- Germany's submarine war against neutral countries' trade ships.
- United Kingdom wanted USA to get in the war -> Great and influential Jewish organizations manipulated American press and politicians to start war propaganda against Germany.
At first, USA didn't want to get involved in to the war because war opened a great market for USA and even Wilson was chosen for 2nd season just because Americans believed him to keep USA out of the war.
Before getting in to the WWII USA provided war suplies to Soviet Union and United Kingdom, to help them fight against Nazis, and tried to stay out of the war like in the WWI. Japan was the one who drew USA in to the war in 1941(Pearl Harbor) but there is no doubt that USA wouldn't have joined the war later.
Vietnam war was fought because Americans wanted to prevent the spread of communism.
Gulf 1 & 2 = Oil
7even:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on June 06, 2007, 08:17:07 PM --- So, is there anything you can tell me at all about the role the Jews might have played in Germany to cause the Germans to lose WW1, anything that might have caused the Nazi's to be bitter towards them?
Also, was Hitler mad at the Jews for their behaivor against Germany in WW1, or for things they did after WW1, or both? Can you explain more?
I appreciate any information you have cause I've been reading a lot these past several months about WW1 cause of the Ottoman Empire relationship with Germany, and your the first German I've talked to about all this.
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I have no real knowledge about concrete, legitimate reasons for Hitler's Anti-Semitism. It is nothing you can discuss in Germany. They will tell you Hitler was insane and stuff like this. I have probably never heard an objective discussion about Hitler in my entire life. It is either Nazi-propaganda or Anti-Nazi-propaganda. Never worth listening to, neither of it.
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