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The interesting part is that Kobe is basically criticizing Mitch and the Lakers organization because they didn't trade Bynum for Kidd.In this forum i was one of the few ones who was down with it.While most people (NIK) who're now taking Kobe's side said that to trade Bynum for Kidd was moronic.Doh.
I love how Laker-Fans predicted Bynum to be more dominant than Howard in 2 years... those same people who are now down with trading him for lunatics like Artest. hahahahaha...
Quote from: Antonio on June 21, 2007, 01:05:58 AMThe interesting part is that Kobe is basically criticizing Mitch and the Lakers organization because they didn't trade Bynum for Kidd.In this forum i was one of the few ones who was down with it.While most people (NIK) who're now taking Kobe's side said that to trade Bynum for Kidd was moronic.Doh.lol, Nik is notoriously known for flipping and twisting things to make the Lakers look good. Now, as the trade didn't go through because of Laker management and Bynum was still a Laker, of course he was down with the decision of not moving him. Now that Kobe has been publicly and explicitly calling out Mitch, Dr. Buss and shit, and Kobe is higher in Nik's "Laker-hierarchy", he's down with Kobe. Note that this also explains how he goes from calling the Lakers contenders to D-League-players and Kobe.
Quote from: Antonio on June 21, 2007, 01:05:58 AMThe interesting part is that Kobe is basically criticizing Mitch and the Lakers organization because they didn't trade Bynum for Kidd.In this forum i was one of the few ones who was down with it.While most people (NIK) who're now taking Kobe's side said that to trade Bynum for Kidd was moronic.Doh.It is moronic...But Kobe doesn't understand value.
He wants to win now.
This is not the main thing upsetting him. Mitch passed up on offers where we woulda been able to trade/sign great players for practically nothing TO SAVE CAP SPACE.
^^^^ I've always told the FO decisions were weak for 3 years... Mitch and Jim Buss aren't the men we need in their post.. no risk taken in 3 years or no blockbuster trades .. they just did trades of drafts here and there to maintain us at an average level.. On the other hand, Kobe had to put pressure on the FO but he did it the wrong ways... our future didn't look bright at all.....
Quote from: 7even on June 21, 2007, 04:52:35 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 21, 2007, 01:05:58 AMThe interesting part is that Kobe is basically criticizing Mitch and the Lakers organization because they didn't trade Bynum for Kidd.In this forum i was one of the few ones who was down with it.While most people (NIK) who're now taking Kobe's side said that to trade Bynum for Kidd was moronic.Doh.lol, Nik is notoriously known for flipping and twisting things to make the Lakers look good. Now, as the trade didn't go through because of Laker management and Bynum was still a Laker, of course he was down with the decision of not moving him. Now that Kobe has been publicly and explicitly calling out Mitch, Dr. Buss and shit, and Kobe is higher in Nik's "Laker-hierarchy", he's down with Kobe. Note that this also explains how he goes from calling the Lakers contenders to D-League-players and Kobe.Everything I say has logic behind it. You're clearly a bitter hater with a choking team. I never flipped or twisted anything. Lakers looked like they were amongst the elite in December. They fell apart and looked like a D-League team by May...EVERYONE can see this besides you. Kobe is calling out the FO because he wants to win now. How can I NOT be down with that? This is gunna push the FO to do all that is possible for us to win...You lose....PeACe
NIK i can't accept you criticizing Mitch for past (non) trades. The homie wcsoldier did it the whole season (and the season before). I criticized Mitch when we traded Brown for Butler. Shit i even criticized him when he traded Jones for a 2nd round draft pick (and you supported it. But now all of a sudden it's a proof the FO didn't want to win, LMAO). Some pees criticized him because he drafted Bynum and not a player ready to contribute from his first day. You, on the other hand, never EVER criticized Mitch, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BEING SKEPTIKAL ABOUT THE LAKERS PLAN. You called us "unloyal" fans. You dissed half of us because we didn't believe in Mitch. You called us "fake fans" because we thought the team wasn't going in the right direction (while you were calling Lakers "contenders"). Now you can't, all of a sudden, change everything. Get it. YOU (i repeat: YOU) made a mistake trusting Mitch. I'm closer to Kobe's frustation than you. The homie wcsoldier is closer to Kobe's frustation than you. We just don't approve the way he made it public, cause maybe there in L.A. where you like it's different, but in the whole world people are thinking about Ray Allen's infamous interview from back in the days and are calling out Kobe as an unloyal bitch. But it's fine, you obviously don't care. You already predicted it, and you're always right. Fine. But please, don't EVER act like you know everything, cause YOU (i repeat: YOU) made the big mistake. Should i call you a "fake fan" now?
Quote from: Antonio on June 21, 2007, 11:35:17 PMNIK i can't accept you criticizing Mitch for past (non) trades. The homie wcsoldier did it the whole season (and the season before). I criticized Mitch when we traded Brown for Butler. Shit i even criticized him when he traded Jones for a 2nd round draft pick (and you supported it. But now all of a sudden it's a proof the FO didn't want to win, LMAO). Some pees criticized him because he drafted Bynum and not a player ready to contribute from his first day. You, on the other hand, never EVER criticized Mitch, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BEING SKEPTIKAL ABOUT THE LAKERS PLAN. You called us "unloyal" fans. You dissed half of us because we didn't believe in Mitch. You called us "fake fans" because we thought the team wasn't going in the right direction (while you were calling Lakers "contenders"). Now you can't, all of a sudden, change everything. Get it. YOU (i repeat: YOU) made a mistake trusting Mitch. I'm closer to Kobe's frustation than you. The homie wcsoldier is closer to Kobe's frustation than you. We just don't approve the way he made it public, cause maybe there in L.A. where you like it's different, but in the whole world people are thinking about Ray Allen's infamous interview from back in the days and are calling out Kobe as an unloyal bitch. But it's fine, you obviously don't care. You already predicted it, and you're always right. Fine. But please, don't EVER act like you know everything, cause YOU (i repeat: YOU) made the big mistake. Should i call you a "fake fan" now? When Kobe signed the contract, he was promised a contending team, NOT A REBUILDING TEAM. Phil Jackson, however, was told of a plan to rebuild and save cap space WHEN HE SIGNED. KOBE ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WHEN PHIL TOLD HIM 1 MONTH AGO.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 22, 2007, 11:35:37 AMQuote from: Antonio on June 21, 2007, 11:35:17 PMNIK i can't accept you criticizing Mitch for past (non) trades. The homie wcsoldier did it the whole season (and the season before). I criticized Mitch when we traded Brown for Butler. Shit i even criticized him when he traded Jones for a 2nd round draft pick (and you supported it. But now all of a sudden it's a proof the FO didn't want to win, LMAO). Some pees criticized him because he drafted Bynum and not a player ready to contribute from his first day. You, on the other hand, never EVER criticized Mitch, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE BEING SKEPTIKAL ABOUT THE LAKERS PLAN. You called us "unloyal" fans. You dissed half of us because we didn't believe in Mitch. You called us "fake fans" because we thought the team wasn't going in the right direction (while you were calling Lakers "contenders"). Now you can't, all of a sudden, change everything. Get it. YOU (i repeat: YOU) made a mistake trusting Mitch. I'm closer to Kobe's frustation than you. The homie wcsoldier is closer to Kobe's frustation than you. We just don't approve the way he made it public, cause maybe there in L.A. where you like it's different, but in the whole world people are thinking about Ray Allen's infamous interview from back in the days and are calling out Kobe as an unloyal bitch. But it's fine, you obviously don't care. You already predicted it, and you're always right. Fine. But please, don't EVER act like you know everything, cause YOU (i repeat: YOU) made the big mistake. Should i call you a "fake fan" now? When Kobe signed the contract, he was promised a contending team, NOT A REBUILDING TEAM. Phil Jackson, however, was told of a plan to rebuild and save cap space WHEN HE SIGNED. KOBE ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS WHEN PHIL TOLD HIM 1 MONTH AGO. This is the most weird part of this situation.. how this didn't come in a conversation between Phil and Kobe before all this drama... the truth need to be told/known