What kills the west (not anotha dumb topic) - please comment

[arthurnelson88]

its not tha beats (tha newer stuff is FINALLY comin' along), its not bcuz Snoop/Dre aint on they records, its not bcuz Pac dead, its not bcuz it aint DeathRow puttin it out... it's bcuz of the CONSTANT this West Coast- we bloods we crips shit (yes i do believe in rep where u from, but not on every song, especially singles).  not every1 can bump this is the west coast-we got tha best smoke songs... people want somethin they can feel and relate 2 not lets throw our dubbs up music.  all tha talk of West this West that goes and niggaz will finally git in rotation or atleast honorable mentions....


or... they (west coast) just dont give a fuck in general about goin mainstream or sellin records...

[Fresco]

To me what actually kills the west is all the people criticizing the west; hot new stuffs are coming out, I am not really aware of what is out in the East but on the West there is a lot of cool songs comming up. For example some days ago Mykestro dropped his California Love, and XL Middleton is dropping his new tapes in August... Big names in the West are also doing their thang... I don't know at which point you consider the left coast "killed"...

About being mainstream it's maybe because West Coast is more gangster with gang references and all that and their songs have to be cut more...

[BigG]

its not tha beats (tha newer stuff is FINALLY comin' along), its not bcuz Snoop/Dre aint on they records, its not bcuz Pac dead, its not bcuz it aint DeathRow puttin it out... it's bcuz of the CONSTANT this West Coast- we bloods we crips shit (yes i do believe in rep where u from, but not on every song, especially singles).  not every1 can bump this is the west coast-we got tha best smoke songs... people want somethin they can feel and relate 2 not lets throw our dubbs up music.  all tha talk of West this West that goes and niggaz will finally git in rotation or atleast honorable mentions....


or... they (west coast) just dont give a fuck in general about goin mainstream or sellin records..

i see what ur saying.  i agree too. 

everytime u see a new west video, its usually about how the westcoast is on the come up or how we got the best weed or about trowing the dubbs up.
it always has to do and say something about the WESTCOAST

Westcoast rappers need to start making singles  of other things then that.  Start talking about some of the issues going on right now.

not every single u put out has to be a song about the westcoast

[MontrealCity's Most]

its not tha beats (tha newer stuff is FINALLY comin' along), its not bcuz Snoop/Dre aint on they records, its not bcuz Pac dead, its not bcuz it aint DeathRow puttin it out... it's bcuz of the CONSTANT this West Coast- we bloods we crips shit (yes i do believe in rep where u from, but not on every song, especially singles).  not every1 can bump this is the west coast-we got tha best smoke songs... people want somethin they can feel and relate 2 not lets throw our dubbs up music.  all tha talk of West this West that goes and niggaz will finally git in rotation or atleast honorable mentions....


or... they (west coast) just dont give a fuck in general about goin mainstream or sellin records..

i see what ur saying.  i agree too. 

everytime u see a new west video, its usually about how the westcoast is on the come up or how we got the best weed or about trowing the dubbs up.
it always has to do and say something about the WESTCOAST

Westcoast rappers need to start making singles  of other things then that.  Start talking about some of the issues going on right now.

not every single u put out has to be a song about the westcoast

yeah dont make music just for the west.

[WILL-I-DIE]

throw your Ws up!!! keep it west!!!

we bang on the rest of the world. the world is ours. 


but i understand what you saying...

[arthurnelson88]

To me what actually kills the west is all the people criticizing the west; hot new stuffs are coming out, I am not really aware of what is out in the East but on the West there is a lot of cool songs comming up. For example some days ago Mykestro dropped his California Love, and XL Middleton is dropping his new tapes in August... Big names in the West are also doing their thang... I don't know at which point you consider the left coast "killed"...

About being mainstream it's maybe because West Coast is more gangster with gang references and all that and their songs have to be cut more...

i aint sayin tha west is "killed" but as fans we gota critisize tha music, even tho some people just flat out hate, but if 12/17 is just talkin bout West this, West West, it looses tha intrests of people, i aint never stepped a day on California concrete (will b in a couple months tho  ) so if u constantly say "west coast" then i cant really feel u on da 100... u neva really hear rappers talkin bout they state constantly on every record, not even NY or ATL.  i love da west coast music scene (some of it) but 2many throw ya dubbs up songs, thats wat killed it in tha 1st place 91-99 u heard em say bloods/crips, w's, westside but not like u hear 2day. 

[R-Tistic]

I mean that is a part of it, but there are a hundred reasons why the West has not been  back...even though we were supposed to come back STRONG twice, and had 5-6 other times people said "______ is gonna help bring us back".

[Fresco]

To me what actually kills the west is all the people criticizing the west; hot new stuffs are coming out, I am not really aware of what is out in the East but on the West there is a lot of cool songs comming up. For example some days ago Mykestro dropped his California Love, and XL Middleton is dropping his new tapes in August... Big names in the West are also doing their thang... I don't know at which point you consider the left coast "killed"...

About being mainstream it's maybe because West Coast is more gangster with gang references and all that and their songs have to be cut more...

i aint sayin tha west is "killed" but as fans we gota critisize tha music, even tho some people just flat out hate, but if 12/17 is just talkin bout West this, West West, it looses tha intrests of people, i aint never stepped a day on California concrete (will b in a couple months tho  ) so if u constantly say "west coast" then i cant really feel u on da 100... u neva really hear rappers talkin bout they state constantly on every record, not even NY or ATL.  i love da west coast music scene (some of it) but 2many throw ya dubbs up songs, thats wat killed it in tha 1st place 91-99 u heard em say bloods/crips, w's, westside but not like u hear 2day. 

I wasn't criticizing you, I just said that I don't understand why west coast rap is kind of casted away from massive airplay because a lot of the production is excellent, and about the California, throwing up the dubbs, Bs and Cs themes, in each kind of rap there are recurrent themes; for example the main theme in Southern Rap is party and in NYC it's more about the social fight...

And also of course I was criticizing the haters that are always speaking about the lack of unity on the West Coast and at the same time talking shit about the rappers they don't like. I.e the Quick & Mc Eiht's groupies that are still divided over a feud that ended around 10 years ago...

But somewhat this is not my matter, I am not a gangbanger, I am not even in the gangsta mentality, to become a wigga scares me! But I feel this music and moreover I love California where I feel at home. So I am just expressing my opinion which value is simply the expression of one's thoughs...

[arthurnelson88]

No 1 person is goin 2 bring a whole coast back (unless Pac or Biggie rise from tha graves)... Its true each coast has a "theme" but its not just based on 1 way/state of rhymin...  truthfully there aren't 1000 reasons why tha west aint come back, its exactly wat i wrote... it's hard 4 the average fan to git into tha music if they talkin bout cali and u way tha fuck over there in Denmark or Alabama or even NY 4 that matter.  Ur comment about tha quik/eiht haters is true but not valid, EVERYBODY knoes people like that are no older than 14 years old, youngin's do buy more records but naw that aint it... U come out wit names like "Westurn Union" lol and "Mykstro"  (3rd grade names ) is not even gona grab tha attention of people besides make them laff.  They need more niggaz like C-Bo and Eastwood 2 come out, i aint knockin nobody elses hustle especially if they got a deal and i dont but truthfully speakin their marketing plans (dont blame all tha white folx) and creativity doesnt have a "universal" appeal.  even WC's new shit is called "Westcoast Voodoo" instead of changin that shit up a lil' bit like "Hood Nigga Voodoo" lol or some shit he just kept it west coast (which is kool) but dont expect tha west's state in tha public eye 2 change, not even Cube can save dat nigga if he droppin singles like that, good song dont get me wrong, just a bad choice of words lol...

it seems like everybody is tryna make the next CALIFORNIA LOVE lol

[Al Bundy]

People hating is what kills the west. Unity is what will bring it back.

[arthurnelson88]

People hating is what kills the west. Unity is what will bring it back.

everybody whos everybody is united, tha rest need 2 fall back and do they own thing... yes this is a very played out topic but all i've ever seen is bs...  anyways if u really lissen nobody is hating (besides tha fan-media who is on every coast), but who can really FEEL tha music thats bein provided on tha west?  this has 2 b tha poorest coast on earth wen it comes 2 music... but i guess its like all tha bullshit in DC thats goin on and its tha nations capital is just like tha bullshit in LA which is tha music capital (NY 2nd), same shit sad story

[Al Bundy]

People hating is what kills the west. Unity is what will bring it back.

everybody whos everybody is united, tha rest need 2 fall back and do they own thing... yes this is a very played out topic but all i've ever seen is bs...  anyways if u really lissen nobody is hating (besides tha fan-media who is on every coast), but who can really FEEL tha music thats bein provided on tha west?  this has 2 b tha poorest coast on earth wen it comes 2 music... but i guess its like all tha bullshit in DC thats goin on and its tha nations capital is just like tha bullshit in LA which is tha music capital (NY 2nd), same shit sad story

You trippin if you don't think everyone is cool with each other. Like E-White said awhile back, you gotta clean out your backyard. They need to look pass the bullshit and make some money. Get your people out of the ghetto and have a better life.

[d-nice]

We need some acts that have absolutely nothing to do with gangsta rap to have some exposure and success to show that the west is not just about gang banging all the time. Black Eyed Peas would be a example of that, but most forget they are a west coast act. I think Bishop Lamont's success is crucial for the west. 06 was a good year with Snoop, Game, Cube and 40 putting up good numbers so a nice contrast to that would be Bishop.

[arthurnelson88]

theres 2 many closed minds (fans) not doin wat they supposed 2 do if they really love this mussic.  i know if im an artists from ANY side i aint spended 2 million on a record if only 45,000 gona buy it (Death Row Records 90's > DPG Recordz 00') Tha Row had the best of the best producin/writin they shit thats why it came out so good and DPG Recoordz has DPG Recordz, its RARE that people git wacker by tha year.  Anyways, the new West needs 2 jump on tha bang wagon with some Original shit instead of tha same old this is WestCoast shit, then EVERY coast (except 4 maybe tha mid-west) would b on instead of just tha East and South.

[.:Hercy Buggz:.]

The only west coast act this is killing it right now and is enjoying his success is Will-I-Am, and i give him his props!