Too $hort or Ice-T

[Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement]

i remember watching that hip honors shit when they were inducting Ice.  They said he was responsible for breaking down the doors for the West Coast and incorporating the pimp game on wax.

i disagree.  thats just me though.

 i was wondering, when someone asks "who was the first big rapper on the West?  or Who put that pimp game shit on wax?"
 
Who do you give the credit to?  $hort or Ice?

and by the way, those fuckers at VH1 better honor $hort soon or the Dangerous Crew Movement we got going is gonna fuck the next ceremony up.

 

[Fresco]

I don't know when Ice-T came in the game but Short Dogg is around since '84, I guess he is the real pioneer.

[Hoodlum204]

I don't know when Ice-T came in the game but Short Dogg is around since '84, I guess he is the real pioneer.

I Agree.

[eazye]

As far as I know, $hort's been rappin' since 82-83 and probably the same could be said as Ice.Commercially, Ice made more noise in 84 with his song "Killers" which made he to be known as one of the first political rappers.Then with "6 In The Mornin'" he was one of the first gangsta rappers.That's what history tells us about him (briefly).$hort on the other hand has always been known as the first to incorporate the pimpin' game on wax

However, agin commercially, Ice was the first big rapper on the west

And fuck yeah, they should honner $hort.I gotta say it tho, VH1 is probably one of the few to pay homage to the Hip-Hop greats

[QuietTruth]

I don't know prolly nuthin' about Too Short but Ice had 'The Coldest Rap' out in '83.

I don't know how much it broke down the doors for pimp game in the West Coast. The record just sounds like everythang else coming out at that time, just aside from being that Ice is from the West.

I don't know, I always thought of Ice bein' more 'pimpish' later on becuz to me, he was more 'gangsta' wit it. Especially with the '6 In The Mornin'.

[AnybodyKilla]

SHORT DAWG!!!

[Jakubs]

I always viewed Ice-T as more of a gangsta rapper, and Too $hort as more of a pimp game type rapper. I too agree that $hort needs to be honored by VH1, and please stop having Fat Joe as a guest artist. I'm sick of seeing that fool doing all these covers.

[Westcoastfanatic]

They both started making records at the same time and they both signed a deal with a major record deal at the same time too. Around 86 or 87 T signed with Sire Records and Short signed with Jive. Before that they were both on small labels. But even doe Short sold more records than Ice T, T has been more known all over the world. Probably coz of that whole "Cop Killer" controversy. But yeah Too Short should be honored too. They're both legends.

[Al Bundy]

Both are dope as fuck. I bump both of em on the regular 

[Paul]

i dont really play alot of ice t, but short dog is 1 of my favourites

[SmokinDro520]

i dont really play alot of ice t, but short dog is 1 of my favourites

Same here andToo $hort is known for spittin some pimp shit more than G-Shit, and with Ice T its the other way around

[Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement]

its not only about who started what.  think from Born to Mack all the way to Gettin It and how many albums hes sold, how many back to back platinum records he has. 

its a shame really.

[Paul]

i dont really play alot of ice t, but short dog is 1 of my favourites

Same here andToo $hort is known for spittin some pimp shit more than G-Shit, and with Ice T its the other way around

too short spits pimp shit over g shit beats

[SmokinDro520]

i dont really play alot of ice t, but short dog is 1 of my favourites

Same here andToo $hort is known for spittin some pimp shit more than G-Shit, and with Ice T its the other way around

too short spits pimp shit over g shit beats

HAHA Fosho

[Dopeisjay]

i was never feelin Ice ..Short dogg is dope is dope as fuck though