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just listened to it not my style either I think the West Coast will forever be about gangsta rap that is how we do it and we do it the best
Quote from: DSIW on October 08, 2007, 04:48:56 AMjust listened to it not my style either I think the West Coast will forever be about gangsta rap that is how we do it and we do it the bestman shut the fuck up
i'm not really hating, which is why i said:"but hey, i'm hella biased. still felt 2 is the shit.outside of that though, coo'."BUT I don't think weed/alcohol hampers other people's success if used creatively.agree for creative purposes, but it definitely impedes your hustle and work ethic. Basically, its like for every minute you spend drinking/smoking, you could have spent that minute thinking about new business opportunities or other ways to achieve success.cause if we're talking strictly from a hustle perspective I think Nas, 50, and Kanye all have Murs beat and at least two of those dudes drink/smoke. what Murs should be propped for is his great balance of artistry and hustle but his hustle would only be impeccable if he dumbed his shit down to the lowest common denominator and made up a dance. but he ain't tryna do that(legitimately so)if you think about the recent rock the bells/paid dues tour that made their way all over the country through like 14/15 cities, you know Murs was just about entirely responsble for holdin down the Paid Dues part. Paid Dues is his creation and his tour, the first and only independent hip hop tour. He was responsible for all 36 underground rappers that travelled in those 3 buses. Murs 3:16 presents Paid Dues. Warner Bros wasnt even there for support.You look at Kanye,50,and Nas, theyre all so big time, that they can afford to have an entire team to help them out with their hustle. thats why Kanye and Nas get anywhere is because they have a whole team at their record label to back them up. They can afford to drink/smoke and act wild sometimes. 50 has over $100 million to back him up, but I aint going to deny 50s hustle, cos he put himself on the map real hard, but Nas' is definitely questionable.... There really hasnt been an indy rapper that has sold as many albums as Murs has besides like Slug.. Murs has like 10 albums, each sold 50,000, and that was all prior to signing to Warner Bros. He legitimately got a deal, as opposed to a lot of these new rappers getting deals off their relationships and co-signsso I see what you're saying, but I see his hustle and drug intake as two totally different things.i think coming from the underground, you have to be as accessible as possible to have monetary success and things like drinking/smoking can be polarizing so it's a smart business move to have that straight edge image. cause if he smoked/drank but didn't shoot people/talk about violence and gangs people that are not educated about hip hop would be lukewarm on him and think he's a half gangster rapper/lukewarm gangsta rapper. Cause you gotta be one extreme or the other from a marketability stand point.agree, and its just good for a change to hear an album with no swearing, each swear word could have been replaced with a much more effective and meaningful word. why confine yourself to these 7 cuss words to express yourself?gangsta rappers are 'so' bad so they sell themselves like that. Boy bands are so 'sweet/good' so they sell themselves like that. Murs and rappers like Murs market themselves to be like an every man "I don't have a big house, guns, or bling..I'm just like you" and they can say that and get more people to believe that if they don't limit themselves to the minority, which is people that get inebriated versus people that don't/separate that part of their lives from their identity vehemently.-T
Quote from: Hey Ma on October 09, 2007, 11:40:11 PMQuote from: DSIW on October 08, 2007, 04:48:56 AMjust listened to it not my style either I think the West Coast will forever be about gangsta rap that is how we do it and we do it the bestman shut the fuck upfor real. fucking ignorant shits. i don't like their shit but i respect the hustle. +1 to hey ma and -1 to dick sucking dana.
Quote from: Tanjential on October 11, 2007, 12:59:20 AMi'm not really hating, which is why i said:"but hey, i'm hella biased. still felt 2 is the shit.outside of that though, coo'."BUT I don't think weed/alcohol hampers other people's success if used creatively.agree for creative purposes, but it definitely impedes your hustle and work ethic. Basically, its like for every minute you spend drinking/smoking, you could have spent that minute thinking about new business opportunities or other ways to achieve success.cause if we're talking strictly from a hustle perspective I think Nas, 50, and Kanye all have Murs beat and at least two of those dudes drink/smoke. what Murs should be propped for is his great balance of artistry and hustle but his hustle would only be impeccable if he dumbed his shit down to the lowest common denominator and made up a dance. but he ain't tryna do that(legitimately so)if you think about the recent rock the bells/paid dues tour that made their way all over the country through like 14/15 cities, you know Murs was just about entirely responsble for holdin down the Paid Dues part. Paid Dues is his creation and his tour, the first and only independent hip hop tour. He was responsible for all 36 underground rappers that travelled in those 3 buses. Murs 3:16 presents Paid Dues. Warner Bros wasnt even there for support.You look at Kanye,50,and Nas, theyre all so big time, that they can afford to have an entire team to help them out with their hustle. thats why Kanye and Nas get anywhere is because they have a whole team at their record label to back them up. They can afford to drink/smoke and act wild sometimes. 50 has over $100 million to back him up, but I aint going to deny 50s hustle, cos he put himself on the map real hard, but Nas' is definitely questionable.... There really hasnt been an indy rapper that has sold as many albums as Murs has besides like Slug.. Murs has like 10 albums, each sold 50,000, and that was all prior to signing to Warner Bros. He legitimately got a deal, as opposed to a lot of these new rappers getting deals off their relationships and co-signsso I see what you're saying, but I see his hustle and drug intake as two totally different things.i think coming from the underground, you have to be as accessible as possible to have monetary success and things like drinking/smoking can be polarizing so it's a smart business move to have that straight edge image. cause if he smoked/drank but didn't shoot people/talk about violence and gangs people that are not educated about hip hop would be lukewarm on him and think he's a half gangster rapper/lukewarm gangsta rapper. Cause you gotta be one extreme or the other from a marketability stand point.agree, and its just good for a change to hear an album with no swearing, each swear word could have been replaced with a much more effective and meaningful word. why confine yourself to these 7 cuss words to express yourself?gangsta rappers are 'so' bad so they sell themselves like that. Boy bands are so 'sweet/good' so they sell themselves like that. Murs and rappers like Murs market themselves to be like an every man "I don't have a big house, guns, or bling..I'm just like you" and they can say that and get more people to believe that if they don't limit themselves to the minority, which is people that get inebriated versus people that don't/separate that part of their lives from their identity vehemently.-Twell, felt cusses a grip and that's cool, but they don't use racial slurs and that's refreshing.-T
Quote from: Al Bundy (no homo) on October 11, 2007, 06:51:14 AMQuote from: Hey Ma on October 09, 2007, 11:40:11 PMQuote from: DSIW on October 08, 2007, 04:48:56 AMjust listened to it not my style either I think the West Coast will forever be about gangsta rap that is how we do it and we do it the bestman shut the fuck upfor real. fucking ignorant shits. i don't like their shit but i respect the hustle. +1 to hey ma and -1 to dick sucking dana. its just an opiniion, like mobb deep y'all some shook ones fa real
haven't heard that one yet, 9th produced all of it as well I heard?-T