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Jake gets roasted for the use of one word and I'm judgmental?-T
I just expect more from people and would like to see hip hop get as much respect as other art scenes and cultures. and in order to succesfully do that, we have to honestly assess the problems with the culture.would y'all rather see Oprah continue to roast rappers on national television convincing millions at a time that it's not a valid genre/artform?I don't say this shit just to be brutal/harsh/mean. I'd like to see that shit stop.-T
the way people on this forum (hip hop fans) reacted to it.it matched up with the way i've seen most hip hop fans/artists/afficionados etc. react to that word despite the context it's being used in.it's just as bad as that conservative mom turning off her kids 2pac talking about 'all he does is say fuck shit nigger and bitch' not even realizing the depth/positivity of the music/message.so often I see hip hop bitch about injustice and then turn around and do the same thing. just like hip hop cats will bitch about discrimination and then go on to mercilessly bash gay people. it's hypocritical and it's why shit like Oprah roasting rappers happens.-T
this is but one example. but yeah you're right, there are cats like Murs and other intelligent cats that are way more open minded and positive and accepting and intelligent in hip hop but I don't see the wide majority of the culture's followers having opinions in line with that kind of thinking as much as I see people having thinking in common with the chauvinistic gangster rap.Point being, there's alot of cats that exude that ignorance that are bringing the whole movement/culture down and the more we can curb that, the better.So yeah you're right it ain't the whole culture. but enough of it so that it's an observable problem/trend.-T
Quote from: Tanjential on October 05, 2007, 10:23:32 AMthe way people on this forum (hip hop fans) reacted to it.it matched up with the way i've seen most hip hop fans/artists/afficionados etc. react to that word despite the context it's being used in.it's just as bad as that conservative mom turning off her kids 2pac talking about 'all he does is say fuck shit nigger and bitch' not even realizing the depth/positivity of the music/message.so often I see hip hop bitch about injustice and then turn around and do the same thing. just like hip hop cats will bitch about discrimination and then go on to mercilessly bash gay people. it's hypocritical and it's why shit like Oprah roasting rappers happens.-TSo what? Rock fans get offended if you say "Kurt Kobane sucks"...open your mind and stop making everything an "all my friends think rap is immature" thing. Many grown black people who hate hip-hop woulda' been offended by what Jake just said...PeACe
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Quote from: Tanjential on October 05, 2007, 10:29:37 AMthis is but one example. but yeah you're right, there are cats like Murs and other intelligent cats that are way more open minded and positive and accepting and intelligent in hip hop but I don't see the wide majority of the culture's followers having opinions in line with that kind of thinking as much as I see people having thinking in common with the chauvinistic gangster rap.Point being, there's alot of cats that exude that ignorance that are bringing the whole movement/culture down and the more we can curb that, the better.So yeah you're right it ain't the whole culture. but enough of it so that it's an observable problem/trend.-TYea? And what culture is not like that?...Not everyone can be a gem, homie...PeACe