Doctor's Advocate and Blue Carpet Treatment: 1 year later

[Okka]

Both albums are bangin, couple of weak tracks on both though. "Get A Light" would've been big as a single & "California Vacation" too...

[The Predator]

Those were the last two big budget records from the west and it's been long time!

Next big album should be Cube's, fingers crossed (Westside Style)

[Dre-Day]

i respect your opinion about game's album, but explain to me why you said that the production is groundbreaking?

ok i got -1, but back it up if you can. sure, i think some of the producers did a good job of mixing older with newer production styles ( like JR did on california vacation), but none of them came up with a whole new style. lower my karma level all you want, but there is no way you can deny it.

edit: ok let me help you:

01. Lookin At You feat. Mac Minister & Tracey Nelson
Produced by Ervin "EP" Pope

02. Da Shit
Produced by DJ Khalil
Contains interpolations from "Ipecac" (Zoogz Rift)
Contains excerpts from the motion picture "Tales From The Hood"

03. It's Okay (One Blood) feat. Junior Reid
Produced by Reefa
Co-Produced by D Roc
Features a sample of "One Blood" by Junior Reid

04. Compton feat. Will.I.Am
Produced by Will.I.Am
Contains excerpts from "Real Muthafukkin G's" by Eazy-E
Contains excerpts from "Gangster Boogie" by Schooly D
Contains a sample from "Hard Times"  by Curtis Mayfield

05. Remedy
Produced by Just Blaze
Contains samples from "HYPERBOLICSYLLABLICSEQUEDALYMISTIC" by Isaac Hayes

06. Let's Ride (Strip Club)
Produced by Scott Storch

07. Too Much feat. Nate Dogg
Produced by Scott Storch

08. Wouldn't Get Far feat. Kanye West
Produced by Kanye West
Contains a sample of "I'd Find You Anywhere" by Creative Source

09. Scream On Em feat. Swizz Beatz
Produced by Swizz Beatz

10. One Night
Produced by Nottz
Contains interpolations from the composition "Two Occasions" (D. Bristol, K. Edmonds, S. Johnson)

11. Doctor's Advocate feat. Busta Rhymes & Chauncey Black
Produced by Jonathan "JR" Rotem
Contains excerpts from "Up Against The Wind" by Lori Perri

12. Ol' English feat. Dion
Produced by Hi-Tek

13. California Vacation feat. Snoop Dogg & Xzibit
Produced by Jonathan "JR" Rotem

14. Bang feat. The Dogg Pound
Produced by Jelly Roll

15. Around The World feat. Jamie Foxx
Produced by Mr.Porter
Additional production by Mike Chav

16. Why You Hate The Game feat. Nas & Marsha of Floetry
Produced by Just Blaze
Choir by The 1500 Choir
Contains excerpts from "With You" by The Main

UK BONUS TRACK:

17. I'm Chillin feat. Fergie
Produced by Will.I.Am

so which of these tracks have groundbreaking production?

[Borat Sagdiyev]

I am listening to these albums for first time last night.  Dr Advocate is very nice.  It has dope for beats.  Snoopy Doggs Blue Carpet Treatment was nice too.  No so much nice as Games albums.

[Meho]

i respect your opinion about game's album, but explain to me why you said that the production is groundbreaking?

ok i got -1, but back it up if you can. sure, i think some of the producers did a good job of mixing older with newer production styles ( like JR did on california vacation), but none of them came up with a whole new style. lower my karma level all you want, but there is no way you can deny it.

edit: ok let me help you:

01. Lookin At You feat. Mac Minister & Tracey Nelson
Produced by Ervin "EP" Pope

02. Da Shit
Produced by DJ Khalil
Contains interpolations from "Ipecac" (Zoogz Rift)
Contains excerpts from the motion picture "Tales From The Hood"

03. It's Okay (One Blood) feat. Junior Reid
Produced by Reefa
Co-Produced by D Roc
Features a sample of "One Blood" by Junior Reid

04. Compton feat. Will.I.Am
Produced by Will.I.Am
Contains excerpts from "Real Muthafukkin G's" by Eazy-E
Contains excerpts from "Gangster Boogie" by Schooly D
Contains a sample from "Hard Times"  by Curtis Mayfield

05. Remedy
Produced by Just Blaze
Contains samples from "HYPERBOLICSYLLABLICSEQUEDALYMISTIC" by Isaac Hayes

06. Let's Ride (Strip Club)
Produced by Scott Storch

07. Too Much feat. Nate Dogg
Produced by Scott Storch

08. Wouldn't Get Far feat. Kanye West
Produced by Kanye West
Contains a sample of "I'd Find You Anywhere" by Creative Source

09. Scream On Em feat. Swizz Beatz
Produced by Swizz Beatz

10. One Night
Produced by Nottz
Contains interpolations from the composition "Two Occasions" (D. Bristol, K. Edmonds, S. Johnson)

11. Doctor's Advocate feat. Busta Rhymes & Chauncey Black
Produced by Jonathan "JR" Rotem
Contains excerpts from "Up Against The Wind" by Lori Perri

12. Ol' English feat. Dion
Produced by Hi-Tek

13. California Vacation feat. Snoop Dogg & Xzibit
Produced by Jonathan "JR" Rotem

14. Bang feat. The Dogg Pound
Produced by Jelly Roll

15. Around The World feat. Jamie Foxx
Produced by Mr.Porter
Additional production by Mike Chav

16. Why You Hate The Game feat. Nas & Marsha of Floetry
Produced by Just Blaze
Choir by The 1500 Choir
Contains excerpts from "With You" by The Main

UK BONUS TRACK:

17. I'm Chillin feat. Fergie
Produced by Will.I.Am

so which of these tracks have groundbreaking production?

If you actually think I lowered your carma because you said that the production is not groudbreaking think again. I wasn't even home untill now, some Game groupie probably did that. It's just your opinion, why would I got through the trouble of lowering your karma ?

Which beats are groundbreaking ? Da Shit, Compton, Remedey, One Night, Old English, DA, Cali Vacation, Why You Hate The Game. Ok, so maybe the term groundbreaking is not correct because it was mainly old school beats turned into your modern sound. But the fact remains that the production was top notch.

[Dre-Day]

no only my first post was referring to you; the 2nd was referring to the "Ghost". i already figured out you wouldn't do something like that, you're a respected member around here.

Ok, so maybe the term groundbreaking is not correct because it was mainly old school beats turned into your modern sound.

yep that's a better way to describe it.

[T-Dogg]

Both are real dope albums. There's some cuts on both (though more on Blue Carpet) that could've benefitted from some refinement, but overall they're dope. If I were to rank them, Game would take the cake this time around: the tracks on DA that are supbar compared to the rest don't fall behind very much at all, and there's a bagful of excellent tracks. Snoop's record has some tracks towards the end I sometimes skip completely and some that should've been worked on a bit more, but the average quality is still high. Much because of the many standout tracks on there: Round Here, Crazy, Vato, I Need a Light... plus Conversations, which in addition to being a dope ass track, has the dopest ending line: "Now that's tabernacle, chuuch." It's the perfect way to end a track like Conversations, it wraps up the album in a dope ass way and it sounds exactly like "something Snoop Dogg would say". That line is the "amen" of a prayer and the "the end" of a story, molded perfectly to fit the orator in question.

[Mackin]

i Like Both Albums!!
I can play both back to back!!
For Snoops, it Shows that he Can take a walk down the "Doggystyle" era, if He wants To..
However, He  can still cater for todays fans as Well!
Lyrically just as Timbo The King Pointed Out, Snoop was On Point for most of The Songs!His flow, voice and rhymes were Tite!!!
Dre?? Dre gave Snoop sum Nice Dope Beats,
Folks can argue all Day!
But I guess it's a person decision of Mine!!!
It should Dre's versatility!!

The Game's Album DA
Is Dope!!
I'm A Fan Of Game, so it was Nice To hear What he Had TO Say..
Though Him Droppin Dre's Name every now and then ,got quite annoying at times!
The Beats on His Album were Raw, they fitted his vocal delivery and lyrics to The T


Now all that will happen now,is to see which direction both these Artist will take....

[BigG]

yeah i thought both albums were dope.
But like somebody said, snoops album has
to many filler tracks.  The first half is dope
Then the middle i thought was mainly straight
trash.  Then the last 2 tracks were real dope.

Games album was dope all the way trough.
Only two tracks i didnt feel much, which were,
the one wit jaime fox and the one wit DPG.

[Raje]

Bang is The dopest to bump in the ride... And  Imagine is still classic... I keep replaying the Intro on The blue carpet treatment... Cat killed it.

[187_gangsta_crip]

when they came out i was feelin SNoops album more but now its switched, i barely play the SNoop album but it had some cuts on it

[d-nice]

The first half of Snoop's album has alot of replay value to me but the 2nd half I skip through most of it. I have been doing that on his last 2 albums. Doctor's Advocate I can pretty much bump all the way through.

[d-nice]

Doctor's Advocate I think for me the producers stepped up they skills for that album. JR Rotem, Jelly Roll, EP, etc had beats you could have sworn Dre did. Not to say it is on par with Life After Death but it reminded me of the producers that did beats for that. It had a polished, throwback, clean sound to it. Like I said earlier, Round Here is the shit. Layered perfectly by Dre, and in a good system this song BANGS. LAX grew on me alot, so did I Bitch I Knew.

[SP0RTY]

i love bpth albums... and BANG is one of the dopest songs on that cd,... kurupt n game ripped it...

Sounds great in a system. Game and DPG make some dope music together. Doctor's Advocate is a true west coast album. Both albums really IMO.

yea i actually like bang 2 and i didnt get all the hate on it

[Blood$]

I bought both of these ablums last year on the days they came out...

Doctor's Advocate I thought was bangin' from beginning to end since the day I bought it, not one track I ever skipped on it... Blue Carpet Treatment I thought was dope as fuck but there was 2 or 3 songs that weren't really me, or I didn't bump much, but now I bump the ENTIRE album, every song...

Game and Snoop both did their thing