Connecting racism with rap

[M Dogg™]

What is it to be racist in the rap world. Hell, to answer that, first you must look at it from a minority's point. You see when people started to question Snoop Dogg was racist, I was like, they don't even understand. The way it is set up in this county, (The U.S. I mean) is that those with money, their kids make it, those that don't well it's a cycle. And who's at the bottom of the money making list, well the Blacks and Mexicans. But more than that, when we talk about moving up, what does that mean, moving into the "white world." Someone said if a white person would try to bring up the white race, then they would be looked at as a Nazi, well how much more can the white man go. If you go to school in a Black or Mexican community, your chances of getting a good education are slim. I'll use myself, my school was basically a Mexican and Black school, and I performed to my fullest. I got good grades, and got a scholorship to a college in Minnesota. I'm a poor minority in a world of whites now, not just whites, but rich whites. This is very strange, but knowing this is the way upper class is, I try to deal with it. the schooling I got in the schools in my area never prepared me for this, as the work is harder, I'm doing stuff I never learned, and people talk a different language it seems. This is a white world, and for minorities, we must build each other up, We are not being racist to whites, it's just that we have mountains to claim that whites will never see. We are less educated because or schools are bad. We are harrassed by the police everyday. The other day I lost a cop who was following me. My dad found out and yelled at me, saying he could have shot me. Why, because I'm a bald headed Mexican in an older car that looks to fits the profile of trouble. Blacks get it even worst, and they are expected to be lazy, as America always doubts the black man's manhood, instilling doubt in their minds from the time they are small. We are put down, and some say, well just do what you can to pick youselves up, well to overcome the pressure of a nation  beating down upon us, we must come together and fight together. Was Martin Luther King Jr. a racist for trying to build up his people, NO; was Casar Chavez a racist for fighting for his people, NO. Out of all people in jail for drug use, 90% are minorities. But out of all drug users, 74% are white. Not saying those minorities are not at fault, but you tell me who's racist. The ones speaking out so that they try to put up their community, or those that practice racial profiling and hunt out minorities when they should also check on the whites too. We still are struggling to get a far share in this country, and slowly, I'm becoming this country says they want but in actuality, they don't. An educated minority.

[Don Seer]

alot of the same shit applies to 'lower class' whites (or anything for that matter) in this country.
i think its even worse for the minorities over here.
the US has never had royalty and stuff like that... the people with money get better (non-government run) schooling and shit.. you can tell from peoples accents here who has money, and who doesn't the 'public school system' (public school = expensive). these people get treated differently, they get the good jobs etc.

fortunately our police *aren't allowed to carry guns* apart from specially trained officers, in special situations.

[Don Jacob]

when you look at the way the US is today minorities are MORE racist than whites, i'm a minority (mexican ) and i mean you can't blame us i mean the way whites use to treat blacks and mexican and asians was CRAZY and STUPID....

BUT it's like really what do we got to be mad about we arn't going though no racist stuff now, i mean yeah afterall we might start off in the ghetto and may not be born with a silver spoon in our mouths  like alot of white kids but is that the white man supressing us?....no alot of the dudes who are all up in the suburbs busted their ass to get an education and went out and looked for a great job and works hard every day to benifit his kids and now that whtie dude is racist and is responsible for my uncle and half of my family for being stuck in the ghetto???

then i look at selected people in my family who "blame whitey" and look at their situation, it's like ok you slacked off in school settle for any job given to you and you'd rather sit on your ass with a Corona listening to mariachi music than doing stuff with your family and doing stuff like RAISING YOUR hoodum kids....i just look at that stuff in my family as ignorance your no better than the white dudes who were racist back in the day

also i look at it like damn that was a long time ago it's like we're punishing inocent people for what their grandparents did i mean that's gay that's like putting Jeffry Domer's grandkids in the electric chair cuz their grand pappy  ate people....that's fucked


anyways that's how things are presented to me from my perspective

[Rud]

fortunately our police *aren't allowed to carry guns* apart from specially trained officers, in special situations.

I AGREE WITH THIS...IF ALL OUR POLICE CARRIED GUNS THERE WUD B FAR MORE KILINGS AS THA CRIMINALS WUD B MORE LIKELY 2 CARRY GUNS EVEN 4 SMALLER CRIMES

peace

[M Dogg™]

I'm not saying blaim whitey, (though it may sound like that) but what I am saying is, we are not racist for coming together trying to put each other in a higher status. It's very hard to come up from the ghettos and barrios, I didn't know how hard until I made it out and am trying to get educated. Some indivuals might make it, those with drive. But at the same time, we all don't start off in the same boats. I would wish that all schools were at the same level to start with. But that ain't happing, so the best thing to do is to come together, and help each other out. Tutor a kid that needs help, or whatever. It took 20 long years, but I finally figured out that I don't want to leave. I plain on teaching in my community, so that I can hopfully help out some kids. We have a long road, and we must do for ourselves to raise above this glass ceiling. I know we can't bitch about how the white man has oppressed us, but at the same time, we must also deal with generations of lost freedom that is still not completely ours. Basically I just got mad for people saying Snoop is racist for have a little Black pride, and someone saying a white person with white pride is a Nazi. No, it's different, I think that we have to try to help each other out of the ghettos and barrios. After all, it does take a villiage to raise a child, and right now our kids are going bad for the same reason I almost did, the villiage is fucked up. We must come together. I notice in college, most whjite people were raised basically by their whole neiborhood, so I think we should follow this, and whites shouldn't look at this as racist.

[Cliftone_Santiago_909]

"when you look at the way the US is today minorities are MORE racist than whites" ----- "like ok you slacked off in school settle for any job given to you and you'd rather sit on your ass with a Corona listening to mariachi music than doing stuff with your family and doing stuff like RAISING YOUR hoodum kids"

  I'm Mexican

  I disagree with you saying that minorities are MORE racist than whites.... we aint tha ones beating people to death, we aint burning down church's, we aint blowing down buildings over race. Of course ALOT of minorities have some anomisity towards whites... but I think it's justified. And you need to open your eyez a lil wider cuz there's STILL a grip of racist white people out there.... they're just  a lil more quiet about it. They wont call you a "FUCKIN NIGGER" or a "DIRTY WETBACK" in your face nomore.....They know better.

   And Alot of them still look down on us, we get followed around when we wanna buy a cd at tha Wherehouse cuz they think we're gonna steal it.... I can be walkin down a parking lot and as soon as they see me they roll up their windows and lock their doors thinkin I'ma hurt them.

  I agree with what you said about white people still catchin heat for some shit their grandparents did and that we should try to look past that.... but you can't just forget it and act like it never happened...

  I aint tryna judge you or anything homeboy but it sounds like you were raised in a "white" neighborhood and grew up with white kids.... There aint nothin wrong with that but to me it seems like you adopted their state of mind and are backing them.

  The way you talked about your family, the Corona sippin', Mariachi music and the hoodlum kids..... That's the way alot of white people look at us.... I dont know about your family but whatever they do aint got shit to do with mines... cuz it aint all like that.

  I aint blaming nobody for my postition in life but myself..... I just expect to be respected.... DESERVE to be respected... and I gotta big FUCK YOU for whoever doesn't respect me.

[Mr_Loc]

I think the main thing is to not paint all people with the same brush. All whites are not racist and/or rich, all blacks arent from the hood etc etc

yes racism is still evident but it is individuals who are racist and not whole races.

i agree its a white mans world, and the system holds minorities down, but its also holding poor white people down too so dont think its just a white vs minorities thing, i think thats unfair

[Joachim]

I grew up in quite a poor place(im white), with about 50% white people and 50% black people, most of the white people were irish, most of my mates were black, and they was all as poor as me, and we all hated middle class England, if you were middle/upper class i was jakkin you straight up, i was brought up to hate on people richer then me white or black.

And for us, growin up, it wasnt about colour, it was about working together to escape poverty, and via a stretch in prison i did, but if i was a racist i probably wouldnt have got outta that grim block of flats i grew up in.

Peace

[Trauma-san]

I notice in college, most whjite people were raised basically by their whole neiborhood, so I think we should follow this, and whites shouldn't look at this as racist.

That's Definately True, I'm White, And I've Always Had My Neighbors Down For Us.  Everybody Watches Everybody Elses Kids And Stuff In Our Neighborhood, People Give 'Em Rides Places, Kids Stay The Night At Different Houses, Etc.

[Trauma-san]

  I disagree with you saying that minorities are MORE racist than whites.... we aint tha ones beating people to death, we aint burning down church's, we aint blowing down buildings over race.

I Draw Your Attention To The Rodney King Verdict Riots!  I Generally Agree With You, Whites Are Much Worse, But It's All Around...

[Sikotic™]

Yeah but the roles were reversed in the L.A. riots when that truck driver got pulled out of his truck, smashed in the head with a brick and now he is brain damaged for life. That was just as bad as the Rodney King beating. Racism goes both ways evenly in my opinion.

[Don Jacob]

to the dude who said i grew up in a white neighborhood and "adopted their state of mind"


BULLSHIT

ask anyone from bakersfield and they'll tell you i'm one of the proudest mexicans around, my whole point is the people from my area arn't doing anything , alot of relatives i have are just sitting on their butts watching telemundo wiith a corona listening to mariachi music....like mellow man said in a post  i'll buy you roundtrip airplane tickest to see this...then they bitch and complain about how they hate their job at a resturaunt  when i know they are more capable of getting a better job than that my friends dad busts tables at red lobster---ok that's the same thing i do at the sizzler and i know he could be a mechanic he loves cars and has fixed mine a million times his family struggles cuz he's too lazy to get a better job and would rather work at the resturaunt around the corner....and i see the same thing with a lot of relatives and people in my neighborhood

and as far as where i grew up at, i didn't know mexicans were minorities i thought whites were considered minorites cuz around my way theres 80% mexican and 10% whites and 10% other....so don't even try to instate i'm a brainwashed mexican which i also think is bullcrap becuase whites have the same mentality as mexicans and blacks and that's provide for their family

not all of them look DOWN upon us that's just as stereotypical as that all blacks eat corn bread and fried chicken....just becuaes white people got more money than us don't make them "the bad guy" just cuz they go out and get an education and work hard for what they got , some mexicans are hard working too, and the ones that are usually raise hardworking kids that become the ones that make it outta the ghetto and become succesful i don't understand the whole white, black , brown mentality we all have ONE HUMAN MENTALITY....

[Mr_Loc]

i don't understand the whole white, black , brown mentality we all have ONE HUMAN MENTALITY....

thats real talk, well said

[Don Jacob]

and about the comments about white people burning down churches and what not, not all white people do that and just becuase  a few idiots do that , that means the whole race does that??

and it's like damn theres just as many blacks who do that it's been on the news a couple of times

theres been chinese people who have stolen black babies and eaten them

theres been mexicans who have brutally beaten whites and other races to death also

so it's like it's not just white people who do brutal things, everyone has done stuff like that

[TheSheriff]

I grew up in black neighbourhoods, up until I was like 11. I grew up in East Point, ATL, Ga, De Renne, SAV, Ga...Both black majority areas. And Crystal Palace, London, England...Black majority area...

I'm white...My family earned their way out of the slums we were livin in, now I live in a 5 bedder with two computers and 4 TV's.

My best friends are mostly black. Yet, when I talk about blacks as equals in polite company...I'm called racist.

I'm not gonna feel guilty for what my ancestors migth have done, cause I've lived the life they might have helped create...And I don't see any point in seeing myself as guilty.

Yet Criminal called me a future Remy...What, cause I told you the truth? Some minoritized people refuse to see the truth, as it's a lot easier to stigmatize white people.

I don't expect respect, nor do I deserve it. But what I expect is that we drop race as an issue.

And a big FUCK Y'ALL to anyone that calls me racist...