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Just about everyone agrees about the status of Eminem's first big full length releases. I don't think you'll find a lot of people who expect Eminem to sell less than 50 Cent. Is 50 the current standard for successful rap music though?However, when it comes to hip-hop needing another Eminem LP; I strongly disagree with that. Hip-Hop culture is morally just about as dead as can be. That goes a lot deeper than just the quality of the music declining; it's a matter of the whole culture crumbling. Just some good music isn't going to change a lot about that, and the problems are more deeply rooted than hip-hop culture alone.There are currently no pillars for popular culture to lean on. There are no defined role models, and even though kids look up to a lot of stars in a major way, these stars do little or nothing outside of the music. They're just being cool, but they provide the youth with no guidelines. Nothing to be inspired by, but a bunch of negroes doing drugs, preaching a thugged out lifestyle, glorifying materialism and immorality.Remember all of that has been going on for a while now. With every new step in the marketing schemes of music becoming more brainless, the new stars had less outspoken peers to idolize. KRS-One and Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five are forgotten by today's stars; they just look up to Biggie and Pac. A new generation will remodel themselves after 50 Cent (if they're not already). Through all of this, the kids who grew up during these phases of hip-hop had less and less to look up to. The result isn't only in hiphop music sounding uninspired, but in hiphop culture on a whole being in a coma. Do you really think that if Eminem dropped another classic, that would change anything? Remember that, regardless of his emceeing qualities, Eminem has been a shocker since the beginning.Hip-Hop culture needs nothing but some new teachers standing up. Guidance and inspiration, that's what it takes. Problem is, anyone with the potential to do just that, probably has turned his back on the culture already. Hip-Hop is a sinking ship, thoroughly rotten. Until a new phase in hip-hop arrives, it's best to acknowledge the value of artists like Nas. Such controversy has a purpose.
Eminem was the shit for a while until that Encore bullshit came out, there were a few good songs on it though
he will still do better numbers than 50 cent, why couse he can reach out to a bigger audiance(white people) .
Quote from: snopafly on December 29, 2007, 04:43:25 AMhe will still do better numbers than 50 cent, why couse he can reach out to a bigger audiance(white people) . Are you saying that crackers don't buy 50's shit?
Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on January 01, 2008, 08:45:31 PMQuote from: snopafly on December 29, 2007, 04:43:25 AMhe will still do better numbers than 50 cent, why couse he can reach out to a bigger audiance(white people) . Are you saying that crackers don't buy 50's shit?id say white dudes buy more of 50's shit, cuz most white people prolly be hatin on eminem cuz he's what they wanna be.
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on December 29, 2007, 08:03:18 AMJust about everyone agrees about the status of Eminem's first big full length releases. I don't think you'll find a lot of people who expect Eminem to sell less than 50 Cent. Is 50 the current standard for successful rap music though?However, when it comes to hip-hop needing another Eminem LP; I strongly disagree with that. Hip-Hop culture is morally just about as dead as can be. That goes a lot deeper than just the quality of the music declining; it's a matter of the whole culture crumbling. Just some good music isn't going to change a lot about that, and the problems are more deeply rooted than hip-hop culture alone.There are currently no pillars for popular culture to lean on. There are no defined role models, and even though kids look up to a lot of stars in a major way, these stars do little or nothing outside of the music. They're just being cool, but they provide the youth with no guidelines. Nothing to be inspired by, but a bunch of negroes doing drugs, preaching a thugged out lifestyle, glorifying materialism and immorality.Remember all of that has been going on for a while now. With every new step in the marketing schemes of music becoming more brainless, the new stars had less outspoken peers to idolize. KRS-One and Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five are forgotten by today's stars; they just look up to Biggie and Pac. A new generation will remodel themselves after 50 Cent (if they're not already). Through all of this, the kids who grew up during these phases of hip-hop had less and less to look up to. The result isn't only in hiphop music sounding uninspired, but in hiphop culture on a whole being in a coma. Do you really think that if Eminem dropped another classic, that would change anything? Remember that, regardless of his emceeing qualities, Eminem has been a shocker since the beginning.Hip-Hop culture needs nothing but some new teachers standing up. Guidance and inspiration, that's what it takes. Problem is, anyone with the potential to do just that, probably has turned his back on the culture already. Hip-Hop is a sinking ship, thoroughly rotten. Until a new phase in hip-hop arrives, it's best to acknowledge the value of artists like Nas. Such controversy has a purpose.Word, 1123. You always come with the insight. My love for hip-hop has never been stronger, there is real hiphop that keeps coming out (I aint even talking about NaS, Hip-Hop Is Dead disappointed me, kinda sub par). Im more talking about:Cilvaringz, Killah Priest, Immortal Technique, Ghost, Rza, DJ Muggs Productions, R.A, GZA, Sick Jacken, etc, etc,etc to mention just a fraction. The real artists have really been stepping up...The difference is that the real "heads" ( people with a refined taste in hip-hop) know where to check for that realness, however for the uninitiated people who are only down for 50 Cent and the full frontal labotomy music they have no idea. I like this stage in hip-hop, I see it retreating back to the catacombs where it may ovulate and get in touch with what was the essence and contemplate on the "realness" Its bigger than hip-hop, its realness. Let the masses have their crappy music, real hip-hop will just go secret society styles, skull and bones style. Im 21, my older brothers who are in their 30s now grew up on Wu, KRS, Geto Boys, NWA, Cypress, 2Pac, Biggie etc you can say they lived through the golden years, however, to them it was just ignorant fun with nothing deep about the music, hip-hop isnt necessary the portal, people find their own way, regardless of hip-hop, the difference is that when I listen to music, for me its a spiritual thing, other times its just music, great sound, for some people hip-hop is never a deep or intellectual thing, its just music, regardless if the hip-hop is preaching Wisdom. Its all about how you regard it, for those that do, they are the initiated, for those that aren't (we hope) they seek somewhere other than hip-hop if they never find it in here.
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