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Last Dragon

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EM's Success
« on: June 01, 2001, 12:17:44 AM »
I was with my boy and we were talking about Eminem(isn't everybody?).  We were talking about how he sold the amount of albums he has and gotten this recognition.  It seemed simple.  Em has a big fan base from both ends of the Hip-Hop circle.  I live in the hood and Em gets played here every five seconds.  I go to the burbs and Em is in being played a lot there.  Em has a fan base that's unversal.  In all honesty, every major rapper that goes at least Gold can't do it on sales from the urban market alone.  Em is in the same boat as 2Pac, Nelly, Ja Rule, DMX, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Notorious B.I.G., and Jay-Z.  They're being played by the Urban market. But they're also being played in the other market where they got the two car garage and the kid who skateboards.  Xzibit didn't get a platinum album until he was able to break into the other fan-base outside of the block parties and Hip-Hop only fans.  Em has the combined sales of the two.  Urban and Suburban markets.  That's why it doesn't make sense to me when people call Em a pop artist.  His style hasn't really changed since his underground days.  If he's pop, then the guys I mentioned are pop too. 8)
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2001, 12:25:32 AM »
Yeah I see what you mean. The difference between Eminem and the others you mentioned is that they aren't tryin as hard to play for the crowd like him. He is doin all this stuff for shock and it is messin with his music.
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2001, 01:00:37 AM »
I agree with Last Dragon.  Em hasn't changed drastically since his underground days.  Back then it was a way for him to express his anger and diss people he had beef with, now it's the same thing, only now the people he deals with are celebs too, but that should be obvious that he'd have beef with other celebs considering he has nothing left to prove to the underground.  He was hailed an underground legend and now that he's blown up so many of ya'll decided that he's sold out and changed his state of mind to pop.  He's dropped one "poppy" sounding song on his last 2 LP's "SSLP" & "MMLP" and the rest are straight rap, how does this make him pop???  Shit he even said when he was performing with The Up In Smoke Tour in Toronto(I dunno if he said this elsewhere, I was at this one, no others) he started rapping, "The Real Slim Shady" and stopped the track barely 1/4 of the way in and said "Cut that shit off!!!  I don't EVER want to hear a song like that one AGAIN!!!"  which to me means he'll never do another "pop" song like this one or "My Name Is.." ever again.  I think he really regretted doing "The Real Slim Shady" because it was, for most, the turning point in his career from being labelled "rap" to "pop" and he didn't want to be referred to as being a "pop" artist.  That's just my opinion though, agree or disagree, it's what I think.
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2001, 01:23:32 AM »
I see Eminem as the perfect artist. Not quality wise(although i think his shit is very good but not perfect/best/favorite,but he's up there.)I mean he has the best producer,some other great ones,is producing good himself, his raps is tight  but not gangsta but hardcore but funny so everybody can get into it and he's white so he stands out. He's the perfect commercial artist. I think he gets hated on so much though becaus eit's hard for people to accept that somebody talented made it. He has gotten played out but that's not neccesarily his fault. He was designed to be commercially appealing but i don't think e wanted to be pop. I consider Dre and Snoop and Pac pop, but good pop. there is some good pop, just as an over-all genre it sucks. I consider peeps like Nas and Kurupt and most artists we dig "mainstream" not underground but not pop.
I just hate it when peeps that don't even like hip-hop try to say that eminem is the best rap or only good rap. Because it's some of the only real good rap that has gone thru the speakers of their pop station set radios. Anyway...i could give a fuck if it's shock rap or dissing everybody as long as it's tight and his shit is still tight with the exception of that DJ clue song "what tha beat" royce meth and em all came weak on that shit. their flows were on point but lyrically they were lower than usual...peace-Tanjint
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2001, 01:34:33 AM »
yeh Pac is pop cuz he was POPULAR as a motherfuck but he stayed TRUE to his words...eminem is a fake ass rapper sellin contraversy...he says fuck the grammys but goes to them and hugs that faggot elton thats some PUSSY SHIT! he disses all faggots nad popstars and underground peaceful MC's and he disses Nelly but always avoids him...thats str8 PUSSY..he's pop cuz he'll do and say anythin to sell records.....
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2001, 02:31:36 AM »
damn westcoastveteran, you need a hug or something....relax...........
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2001, 11:13:07 AM »
Last Dragon, good post.  And JTPlatinum, your on point dog.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2001, 11:40:44 AM »
IM IN WITH WESTCOASTVET !!
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2001, 02:59:27 PM »

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with the exception of that DJ clue song "what tha beat" royce meth and em all came weak on that shit. their flows were on point but lyrically they were lower than usual...peace-Tanjint

No way! I was so impressed with Em on that song. His rhyme structure was amazing!
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2001, 04:42:24 PM »
im with WestCoast Vet... FUCK Infinfite 59... im sick of you riding em's dick i have been watching you do it on here for a WHILE now
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2001, 05:15:10 PM »
slow your bitch ass down smooth! fuck man he can have a opinion, and i think eminem is dope too..shit
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2001, 05:22:48 PM »
Sometimes I think it's dangerous to have an opinion on this board!
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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2001, 05:30:22 PM »

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im with WestCoast Vet... FUCK Infinfite 59... im sick of you riding em's dick i have been watching you do it on here for a WHILE now



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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2001, 06:44:44 PM »
So Much Style why you gotta call me a bitch? i have never beefed with anyone on this board before but finally something has got to me and im a little heated... i don't got a problem with you... and i have found most of your posts to be good and i can tell you got Knowledge when it comes to west coast rap. i was just expressing my opinion on infinite59... shit's got NOTHING to do with you hommie

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Re: EM's Success
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2001, 08:52:46 PM »
Eminem is a great lyricist..."What The Beat Says" was average...Smooth is a stupid muthafucka for takin shots at somone who likes an extremely talented artist...Westcoast Vet needs a big hug...End of conversation...


PS, can we please stop having Topics about Eminem?
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