Who do you think has more money? Cube or Dre?

[Cliftone_Santiago_909]

  LoL... N-Imy... you're trippin foo'!

 You just aint got your facts straight.... Dre & Suge OWNED DeathRow together! Eminem dont own shit when it comes to Aftermath....

 And then you talk about how he aint popular around where you live... he probably aitn popular to you and your 3 homeboys but I'm pretty sure other muthafuckerz hear his shit when it's playing on MTV and BET 24/7

 And that whole shit about 2pac killing Dre if he were still alive..... LoL. Shut tha fuck up! You didn't know 2pac, you dont know what that foo' was thinking. You sound ignorant as fuck talkin out your ass.... probably have to listen to "Hit Em Up" and the whole "Suge Knight Presents.... Chronic 2000" every night just to go to bed...

LoL

[Smooth]

yo Ban that Foo N-Imy

Peace

[Sikotic™]

Nah, don't ban anyone. This is a very good, yet heated discussion. Peeps on here are diggin way deep to prove their point. I changed my mind from Cube to Dre because Dre has been around much longer and has to have had more money. Plus Up in Smoke...Shit thats alot of money. Its gotta be Dre now.

[Diamond_Joe_Quimby]

Nah, don't ban anyone. This is a very good, yet heated discussion. Peeps on here are diggin way deep to prove their point. I changed my mind from Cube to Dre because Dre has been around much longer and has to have had more money. Plus Up in Smoke...Shit thats alot of money. Its gotta be Dre now.

What do you mean Dre has been around longer than Cube???  They both made it big at the EXACT same time.  The only difference is Cube has never lost any of his money.  And correct me if I'm wrong...Ice Cube wasn't doing the Up In Smoke Tour for free.  He was definitely getting a piece of the pie!

My final vote goes to: Ice Cube-by a slim margin.  His years of steady album sales and sound record deals along with all of his Hollywood money surpasses Dre even with the all the money he has made.

[NobodyButMe]

i'd say cube by far. he's got plenty of albums, and plenty of hit movies. end of story. dre's got two albums, a few tracks here and there, and a couple of albums of other stars, but thats it.........cube's got like 7 albums, and he's on people's tracks all over the place.

[Trauma-san]

Plus, Everybody Remember... Dre Was BROKE In '96! And He Gets NO Royalties From Deathrow (Admitted By Mellowman Last Post), Nor Does He Get Ruthless Royalties! He Gets Nothing From His Past.  

Cube Still Gets Royalties From Albums And Movies As Far Back As 89....

[Sikotic™]

SHIT! I wasn't thinkin straight. My bad. I meant that Dre has was makin money on the Row before he left. But it don't mean shit so I'll shut the hell up.

Dre still got more money.

[.:N-Imy:.]

Ban Me. What for. Expressing my own opinion. Free speach isn't illegal as far as I know. Look it pretty simple. You have your own views on the situation and I have my own views. You like Dre so you defend him I don't hate Dre I just don't think he's a good rapper that's all so I wanna say what I feel was right. Dre was and still is a pussy. The gangsta rap man quit cause things got to hot for him at Deathrow. Hell, people may disagree, but Pac was a bit of a pussy aswell. All that Thug Life shit. Pac only talked about that so much because he was made to by Deathrow. It was all part of an image thing that Deathrow wanted Pac to do and I'm saying that as a Pac fan. But as for the Dre popularity ting. I can guarentee you if you asked more than half the people that bought Dre's album if they still listen to it, it would eithe be about once a month or never.

Infact I'll tell you why I ain't a fan of Dre as a rapper cause he always got other people to rap with him. His album Chronic 2001. 22 Songs. 2 he done by himself. The rest where either Snoop and Eminem of a lot of small time rappers who he used not to promote them but to help sell his album. I've got The Chronic and Chronic 2001 and I liked Dre until I bought the Chronic 2001 album. And then I was like. Hell that guy has lost man. Some his beats are good but he just lost the rapping thing. The guy rights less than half his lyrics for his songs. That ain't a true rapper.

Anyway as I said. We all have different views on the mattter. If we didn't whee would the world be. If we didn't, how would Amerika be able to elect different people for president cause somebody's gotta have a different opinion for that to happen. Anyway I'll expect some rife back for this one.

P.S - I don't think most of ya'll got me on the Tupac/Dre murder thing. I oviously done summin wrong. What I meant there was the Tupac would murder Dre lyrically, song wise, not gun and shit, blood all over the place I meant if they were to start a frienzy with each other in songs.

[big_mike]

here's the figure's for dre's aftermath since Slim Shady drop 2yrs ago:

Album        Sales        $ Amt @ WHSLE ($11.41)

Slim Shady       4,000,000       $45,640,000.00       
                       
Dr Dre 2001                  
    US                        6,000,000       $68,460,000.00       
    Canada                       4,000,000       $45,640,000.00       
    New Zealand       1,000,000       $11,410,000.00       
    Holland                    500,000       $5,705,000.00       
    Switzerland          500,000       $5,705,000.00       
    Denmark                  500,000       $5,705,000.00       
    UK                        1,000,000       $11,410,000.00       
   Sub Total      13,500,000 $154,035,000.00       
Marshall Mathers                      
   US                       8,000,000       $91,280,000.00       
  Ireland                     11,000,000       $125,510,000.00       
  Canada                       7,000,000       $79,870,000.00       
  England                       4,000,000       $45,640,000.00       
  New Zealand             3,000,000       $34,230,000.00       
  Belgium                   2,000,000       $22,820,000.00       
  Switzerland               2,000,000       $22,820,000.00       
  Denmark                  1,000,000 $11,410,000.00       
  Spain                          500,000       $5,705,000.00       
  Emerald Isles       7,000,000       $79,870,000.00       
  Mexico                       500,000       $5,705,000.00       
  Latin America          500,000       $5,705,000.00       
30 Countries Certified Gold Status - 18 Remaining fr. List                       9,000,000       $102,690,000.00       

  Sub Total         55,500,000 $633,255,000.00       

  Grand Total      73,000,000 $832,930,000.00       

Interscope Split - 20%             $166,586,000.00 Aftermath Split - 80%             $666,344,000.00       
Retail Promo ($.75/unit) Usually Between $.75 and $1.00      73,000,000       $(54,750,000.00)

Marketing ($1.25/unit) Usually Between $1.25 and $2      73,000,000       $(91,250,000.00)      
                       
Aftermath Balance             $520,344,000.00       
Also, based on Forbe's list Dre's Made $31.5M for 2000

[Trauma-san]

1. The Board Is NOT A Democracy, LOL Whoever Gave You That Idea Was Wrong....

2. The Board Originates From England, Which STILL HAS A QUEEN, LOL

3. We Can Ban Whoever We Want.  

It's As Simple As That... Usually We're Not Pricks, But You Saying "Free Speech, Blah Blah Blah" Is Meaningless, Because We Don't Have A Constitution That Says That On The Board

If It Came Right Down To it, We Could Ban You Because We Don't Like Your Name.  We Wouldn't Do That, But Just So You Know...

Plus, You're Too Harsh On Peeps.  What Kind Of Dumbass Comes On A Board, KNOWING That peeps There Are Big Pac And Dre Fans, Then Disses Both Relentlessly, And Then Doesn't Expect Retaliation?

[Diamond_Joe_Quimby]

Hell, people may disagree, but Pac was a bit of a pussy aswell. All that Thug Life shit. Pac only talked about that so much because he was made to by Deathrow. It was all part of an image thing that Deathrow wanted Pac to do and I'm saying that as a Pac fan. But as for the Dre popularity ting. I can guarentee you if you asked more than half the people that bought Dre's album if they still listen to it, it would eithe be about once a month or never.

What the fuck are you talking about? Do you honestly believe that Death Row was MAKING Pac act like a thug?  Where the hell are you getting your stupid ass info?

And who the fuck cares how good a rapper Dre is...He is a producer first and foremost!  If you can't recognize is skills then it's your loss.

As far as your "guarantee" goes the only thing you should be guaranteeing is that you are going to write some more stupid ass shit!

[.:N-Imy:.]

Look Trauma I see where you coming from and I ain't dissing Tupac resentlessly cause I am a Tupac fan and hell I got most of his albums. I hate Dre as a rapper and I criticise him for that but praise him as a producer and people who say that he is just a producer are talking shit because if he were then why rap?

Now as for DJQ. Wehter you choose to believe it or not but if you look into it you will find that Tupac's whole Thug Life thing was an image that was created by Deathrow. Hell if the guy was that much a fucking thug then why the hell was he so nice to people when he wasn't in a studio recording rap. When I heard it I didn't believe it at first. But then I found out for real and now I accept it.

People say I diss Dre cause I hate him but that just ain't true. I do like the producer Dre but not the rapping Dre. Just like I don't like Snoop Dogg the way he is now. I liked Snoop Dogg when he was at Deathrow. He was more real then. If you look into Snoop's past you'll also see some interesting things about him like how he conveniently got shot at the week one of his albums were due to be released and at the same time when people were questioning if he was real. And when he wasn't do that well and his popularity had went down a bit who did he turn to. None other than his old mate Dre who never turned up at Snoops court case. But why? Cause with Snoop being with Dre he would be known again and album sales were boosted and is now very popular in UK.

But hell if you wanna ban me, then ban me. Why? Cause people don't wanna hear other people go against who they like. Cause people don't like hearing the truth about rappers they like. Because people can't accept you for not liking who they like. You call me ignorant but how many people on here aren't? If you don't come from one of the bad places in Amerika then you can never be as tough as them. If you don't come fro Amerika then if you a rapper you'll get slept on a lot. Hell to call me ignorant is just being plain ignorant yourself. Just cause ya'll like Dre & Snoop don't mean I have to. I am a big Tupac fan and I will defend him when it is right but as for Dre & Snoop I just don't rate them as rappers at all. I think they just pussies who try to act hard. Tupac maybe was hard but you'll never know because if he beat somebody up it was mostly when he was with a crew of people and the whole Thug Life thing was made up by Deathrow for Tupac wether you wanna believe it or not !!!!!

[West Coast Veteran]

but Pac was a bit of a pussy aswell. All that Thug Life shit. Pac only talked about that so much because he was made to by Deathrow. It was all part of an image thing that Deathrow wanted Pac to do and I'm saying that as a Pac fan.[/b]

you gotta be the DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKER ON EARTH! Pac was claiming Thug Life [since his 2nd LP]before he joined Death Row u ignoramous! he got into more shit with the police before he joined Death Row so how can u say DRow forced him to be a Thug LOL! Remember all that shit about shootin cops and shit that was before DRow...LOL! get your facts str8 kiddo!

so your saying DRow made up THUG LIFE and not Pac and his homeboys? LOL! ok now i know you are a Hip Hop Scholar! LOL! and if you're a THUG u cant be nice to people?? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!! thats the dumbest shit i ever heard so all THUGS have to be beatin everyone up and shit even they homeboys and shit LOL they aint nice to no one...!!! LOL!!!

[Rud]

YEH 'WCV' IS RITE....2PAC HAD HIS THUG LIFE TAT WAAAAY B4 DEATH ROW...

AND THUG LIFE VOL 1 WAS RELEASED IN '94 2 YEARS B4 HE JOINED THA ROW..............SO IT WASNT NO IMAGE 4 DR

HE FUCKED OFF THE ROLE OF 'THUG LIFE' WHILE IN PRISON.....THAT TIME IN PRISON CHANGED HIM DRASTICALLY....SOME GOOD, SOME BAD


peace

[Mr_Loc]

another point - what the fuck does it matter how 'hard' a musician is? If its good music then I'ma like it. if you think most rappers do the shit they talk about doing in their songs i dont know what to say to you. its entertainment