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Ok,let's move on...-almost "everybody" hates the dj tags,but it seems they're here to stay.But is there a way to tag them that both parties can live with?
Quote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 19, 2008, 12:13:42 PMI got a couple of theory´s on this-one could be that these DJ´s got a network ofstreet teams that hit the streets with the mix-tapes.-It could be that this is actually a favor to the DJ´s,the DJ´s can be their tour DJ and with getting their name on the mix-tapes they get a name,this fame gets them gigs to play at clubs.-the last one that usually comes up is that it´s there to prevent other DJ´s to use it as their´s.Well,that was the theories.Like you said a artist likeSlim could benifit from this but why Game,50 etc.?They got a "brand name",even before they released a album,all they could do is put the Aftermath stamp on it.Or 50,Snoop,Jay-Z or who ever presents -ìnsert name of their new co-signed artist-yeah there are no statistics. like i said before, i know that the mixtape DJ's promote through different channels than the label does for an album, so sure it will give some extra exposure for established artists, but let's say 50 won't do mixtapes anymore, i doubt it would really hurt his sales for his last soloalbum on interscope.i'm sure The Game's sales for his last album could be boosted because of the mixtapes, but let's say he didn't do mixtapes, would he only go gold then with the Doctor's Advocate
I got a couple of theory´s on this-one could be that these DJ´s got a network ofstreet teams that hit the streets with the mix-tapes.-It could be that this is actually a favor to the DJ´s,the DJ´s can be their tour DJ and with getting their name on the mix-tapes they get a name,this fame gets them gigs to play at clubs.-the last one that usually comes up is that it´s there to prevent other DJ´s to use it as their´s.Well,that was the theories.Like you said a artist likeSlim could benifit from this but why Game,50 etc.?They got a "brand name",even before they released a album,all they could do is put the Aftermath stamp on it.Or 50,Snoop,Jay-Z or who ever presents -ìnsert name of their new co-signed artist-
Muthafuckas gotta take a page outta the DJ Crazy Toones book and see how 2 fuckin DJ a song
Quote from: Lunatic 63 on March 22, 2008, 05:20:00 PMMuthafuckas gotta take a page outta the DJ Crazy Toones book and see how 2 fuckin DJ a song +1
Quote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 22, 2008, 05:03:40 PMOk,let's move on...-almost "everybody" hates the dj tags,but it seems they're here to stay.But is there a way to tag them that both parties can live with?Probably not.
Quote from: D~Nice on March 22, 2008, 05:10:25 PMQuote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 22, 2008, 05:03:40 PMOk,let's move on...-almost "everybody" hates the dj tags,but it seems they're here to stay.But is there a way to tag them that both parties can live with?Probably not. -ok,but in the state the mix-tapes is presentet now it's a no win situation for neither parties. The listeners hate them,while the DJ and artists get their name out there,it's at the same time bad promo."ooh it's that mix-tape with all that screaming,guns shots and shit on it,that shit is annoying... I can't listen to that shit,fuck DJ -insert name-..."You hear shit like that all the time,shit like that can't be good promo,or?
Quote from: D~Nice on March 22, 2008, 05:27:22 PMIt's also a good way to put some tracks that did not make the album as well. Most are becoming albums almost.Sure,but I rather see that the artists released those tracks officially on some kind of "left overs" type of albums.
It's also a good way to put some tracks that did not make the album as well. Most are becoming albums almost.
QuoteDJ's probably don't give a shit. Those tags to them is what is going to separate their tapes from others. And most don't have signature skills like a Crazy Toones or a DJ Revolution or someone that once you hear that scratch or the way they flip a vocal sample, you KNOW who is the dj is. So most have to resort to that yelling and screaming.Those words right there means;Attenion all walmart DJ's step your game up. DJing is a art form,respect it!
DJ's probably don't give a shit. Those tags to them is what is going to separate their tapes from others. And most don't have signature skills like a Crazy Toones or a DJ Revolution or someone that once you hear that scratch or the way they flip a vocal sample, you KNOW who is the dj is. So most have to resort to that yelling and screaming.
Quote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 22, 2008, 05:37:12 PMQuote from: D~Nice on March 22, 2008, 05:27:22 PMIt's also a good way to put some tracks that did not make the album as well. Most are becoming albums almost.Sure,but I rather see that the artists released those tracks officially on some kind of "left overs" type of albums.But again in most cases that requires getting the record labels involved. Those b-sides and unreleased albums are a rarity now. Most would rather just throw them on a mixtape.
I will say that sometimes DJ's go overboard with the tags. Also, DJ's who release mixtapes without actually mixing and blending songs are trash and a disgrace to the profession.
This little thing might move the convo on;QuoteDollars and Sense: Second Edition (Friday June 13th, 2008)http://www.dubcnn.com/blogs/dollarsandsense/http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=183781.msg1877570#msg1877570People like free, but will it translate into sales?By Eric EngelwoodSo I had my iTunes on shuffle trying to come up with something to write about when it dawned on me:The West Coast is at the forefront of marketing in the music industry. iTunes played me Crooked I’s Hip-hop Weekly #19.That track was followed up by Bishop Lamont’s City Lights, which was followed up by Problem’s I’m toe up remix.The West Coast is putting out quality music for free, so how will artists make money?Will this tactic of "free music" pan out or will we see another generation of angry West Coast rappers shunned by the industry?Think about it for a second: Crooked I put out 52 weeks of free music. That’s nearly four albums worth of free music.Bishop Lamont has put out three album quality mixtapes in a little over a year.Artists regularly put fully mixed and mastered tracks on Dubcnn, Lyay.net and countless other media outlets for free.This is a brand new way of marketing and it’s time for artists to take advantage of this new model. Welcome to music 2.0.Artists are building grassroots fanbases , but are they utilizing them accordingly?In order to succeed, touring, direct to fan sales, and other revenue streams should be examined.For every artist that puts out a track for free, there should a plan to make money behind it.Will that track get that gets the club jumping translate into touring money?Can you license that song about your favorite booze to the booze company for a commercial?
Dollars and Sense: Second Edition (Friday June 13th, 2008)http://www.dubcnn.com/blogs/dollarsandsense/http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=183781.msg1877570#msg1877570People like free, but will it translate into sales?By Eric EngelwoodSo I had my iTunes on shuffle trying to come up with something to write about when it dawned on me:The West Coast is at the forefront of marketing in the music industry. iTunes played me Crooked I’s Hip-hop Weekly #19.That track was followed up by Bishop Lamont’s City Lights, which was followed up by Problem’s I’m toe up remix.The West Coast is putting out quality music for free, so how will artists make money?Will this tactic of "free music" pan out or will we see another generation of angry West Coast rappers shunned by the industry?Think about it for a second: Crooked I put out 52 weeks of free music. That’s nearly four albums worth of free music.Bishop Lamont has put out three album quality mixtapes in a little over a year.Artists regularly put fully mixed and mastered tracks on Dubcnn, Lyay.net and countless other media outlets for free.This is a brand new way of marketing and it’s time for artists to take advantage of this new model. Welcome to music 2.0.Artists are building grassroots fanbases , but are they utilizing them accordingly?In order to succeed, touring, direct to fan sales, and other revenue streams should be examined.For every artist that puts out a track for free, there should a plan to make money behind it.Will that track get that gets the club jumping translate into touring money?Can you license that song about your favorite booze to the booze company for a commercial?
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