When West Coast rappers make songs that "sound" East or South...

[Black Excellence]

West Coast Artists Must Have West Coast Sound.

W´z Up!

look, young west coast g's and old ones too!

do what the fuck you want, don't let nobody tell you how you must sound, that is the complete oppisite of hip hop!
hip hop is a culture of doing what the fuck you want, and getting your voice heard, no rules or regulations, fuck these old spectators,
their chances are up!  Do you!  If they say you got an east coast flow, take it as a compliment, basicly they saying you are lyrical,
if they say you got a down south flow, they saying your shit sounds catchy, if they say you got a west coast flow, they saying you doing gangsta rap,

see you motherfuckas got the game twisted, not every black or hispanic person in ca or la is a gang banger, they may be gangstas or thugs, but not a gangbanga, so for you to try to force people to do gangsta west coast rap, is against hip hop, thats why their is so many studio gangstas, because the community forces these rappers to be what they not.

Where the rappers thats being themselves?  not everybody in Cali likes that Mexican funk music or wants to hear that shit in every rap beat they hear, let snoop do that shit

It does seem like anything that doesn't sound "gangbang" tends to be called East or South, just because people don't really associate any direct sound with L.A. when it comes to rap. Now with The Game...he had West Coast content, but even with the East Coast elements that he used, people would say he sounded "East Coast" not just because of the punchlines and gun/drug references...but because he would rap with an East Coast accent, which was questionable. If you heard him rap and he didn't mention L.A., you'd "KNOW" he was from The East, or even Chi or Detroit.

I think it's a hard call...because most West Coast fans listen to West Coast music not just because the artist happens to be from here, but because they like the way the music hits them. The problem I personally had with some of the "New West" rappers is that they are all saying the West needs new air and life...but most of the rappers sounded like C level South and East artists, or C level 90's West Coast artists.

The point I tried to make with this topic is that I personally don't think it's bad to have a sound influenced by other coasts....but if you aren't better than the cats who are from there, why would most people care to listen to you? And with that...why get mad if you aren't as successful as these artists, when you're just not as good as trying to be them as they are? Game sold because he had that East Coast style, but he made music better than 95% of the East Coast artists.

i agree homie. it's not that i won't listen to west coast shit that ain't funked out it's just who wants to hear niggas that can spit over some fake ass collipark bullshit when there are many many talented west coast producers who can do more than supply the heat. for example i think ego trippin woulda been a lot better if snoop had for one wrote his own shit and even without dre he coulda holla'd at cat,fred,soopafly,pooh, and god knows who else. i hate to hear west niggas rapping over bull shit beats. i think that besides maylay those other cats are all b and c level artists compared to how the old west niggas was when they first started. seriously do you think you could compare glasses album to we come strapped or the shadiest one?

[RealG]

West Coast Artists Must Have West Coast Sound.

W´z Up!

look, young west coast g's and old ones too!

do what the fuck you want, don't let nobody tell you how you must sound, that is the complete oppisite of hip hop!
hip hop is a culture of doing what the fuck you want, and getting your voice heard, no rules or regulations, fuck these old spectators,
their chances are up!  Do you!  If they say you got an east coast flow, take it as a compliment, basicly they saying you are lyrical,
if they say you got a down south flow, they saying your shit sounds catchy, if they say you got a west coast flow, they saying you doing gangsta rap,

see you motherfuckas got the game twisted, not every black or hispanic person in ca or la is a gang banger, they may be gangstas or thugs, but not a gangbanga, so for you to try to force people to do gangsta west coast rap, is against hip hop, thats why their is so many studio gangstas, because the community forces these rappers to be what they not.

Where the rappers thats being themselves?  not everybody in Cali likes that Mexican funk music or wants to hear that shit in every rap beat they hear, let snoop do that shit

mexican funk?....lol.........gfunk derived from FUNK music.

not no mexican funk lol...

lol, yeah that! 

[EastsideLBC]

IMO west coast artists need to bridge out with other coasts sounds That is what is holding most west coast artists back. They think they have to stay 100% west coast.

Im 100% West Coast Hip-Hop but IMO we need to bridge out to get back to the mainstream where we belong.

[RealG]

I don't find nothing wrong with it, its real life!  These are the rappers that the kids are listening too, you know what im saying, if a kid lives on the west coast, and he listens to down south or east coast music, then how do you think he's style is gonna be, if he tries to rap like a "west coast rapper"(what ever that stereotype is) he would be faking, cuz he don't even listen to that shit, you feel me?
its common sense, i think you guys take this music shit too too serious.
Hip Hop is a South Bronx or New York City art form, that has transended many communities in the USA.  Every different community has its own swag, but at the end of the day it is all the same, therefore there is not really a such thing as east coast or downsouth or west coast style, just variations of what people choose to talk about
and we all live in the USA, see the same shit on TV, do pretty much the same things, I don't see nothing wrong with it.

and while we are on this subject for instance, check out this rapper, he's a West Coast rapper but just did a collabo with Down South Artist, and the song is hella swagged out, with alot of flavor because of the 2 cultures.
SCAR FACE PRESENTS....GREEN CITY 'BRAND NEW MONEY'
"DO IT LIKE I DONE IT"(WEST COAST REMIX) - GREEN CITY feat. KAIZER SOSE "THE FUTURE OF WEST COAST HIP HOP"
DO IT LIKE I DONE IT(WEST COAST REMIX) - green city feat. kaizer sose.mp3 - 10.02MB

AVAIALABLE IN STORES & ONLINE EVERYWHERE!!

That there is true...before the West even had it's own sound, rappers here and anywhere else sounded like NY, just because that's all rap was at the time...and for artists who grew up in the 90's, most of them did sound West or East if their region didn't have a distinct sound yet...that's just how it goes. Most younger rappers probably won't have too much about their sound that is "West" aside from their accent, unless they are from the Bay where they have had their own style this decade.

Even early NWA, before that jewish dude got involved, they was on some Public Enemy swagger minus flavor flav, but especially Ice Cube, you could tell his favorite rapper was probably Chuck D, he even rock the hat and the gear like him!


(fuck the police!)



that was the birth of that whole swagger Chuck D, and they if you remember NWA had the respect yourself , dopeman, all songs very similiar to Public Enemy's like "night of the living basehead"

talking bout shootings and being in jail, and just theme of their names, Public enemy and NWA, very similar theme.

flavor clocks and all that...

i couldn't find any real good pics of the whole public enemy crew

[RealG]

so outside influences have always been a part of California hip hop, especially LA, you have to remember, LA is the 3rd most visited city in the USA, everyday someone moves here from out of the state, and everyday there are 100,000s of visitors in the city, bringing their trends, how many times you meet someone from detroit, louisiana, texas, new york, florida, chicago in LA?

the most visited city in the USA is Las Vegas, and 2nd. is New York City (which also has major influences from outside places, even from L.A.)

[shay]

real talk homie

[from Lost Angels]

lol thats true now that I remember

[Black Excellence]

I don't find nothing wrong with it, its real life!  These are the rappers that the kids are listening too, you know what im saying, if a kid lives on the west coast, and he listens to down south or east coast music, then how do you think he's style is gonna be, if he tries to rap like a "west coast rapper"(what ever that stereotype is) he would be faking, cuz he don't even listen to that shit, you feel me?
its common sense, i think you guys take this music shit too too serious.
Hip Hop is a South Bronx or New York City art form, that has transended many communities in the USA.  Every different community has its own swag, but at the end of the day it is all the same, therefore there is not really a such thing as east coast or downsouth or west coast style, just variations of what people choose to talk about
and we all live in the USA, see the same shit on TV, do pretty much the same things, I don't see nothing wrong with it.

and while we are on this subject for instance, check out this rapper, he's a West Coast rapper but just did a collabo with Down South Artist, and the song is hella swagged out, with alot of flavor because of the 2 cultures.
SCAR FACE PRESENTS....GREEN CITY 'BRAND NEW MONEY'
"DO IT LIKE I DONE IT"(WEST COAST REMIX) - GREEN CITY feat. KAIZER SOSE "THE FUTURE OF WEST COAST HIP HOP"
DO IT LIKE I DONE IT(WEST COAST REMIX) - green city feat. kaizer sose.mp3 - 10.02MB

AVAIALABLE IN STORES & ONLINE EVERYWHERE!!

That there is true...before the West even had it's own sound, rappers here and anywhere else sounded like NY, just because that's all rap was at the time...and for artists who grew up in the 90's, most of them did sound West or East if their region didn't have a distinct sound yet...that's just how it goes. Most younger rappers probably won't have too much about their sound that is "West" aside from their accent, unless they are from the Bay where they have had their own style this decade.

Even early NWA, before that jewish dude got involved, they was on some Public Enemy swagger minus flavor flav, but especially Ice Cube, you could tell his favorite rapper was probably Chuck D, he even rock the hat and the gear like him!


(fuck the police!)



that was the birth of that whole swagger Chuck D, and they if you remember NWA had the respect yourself , dopeman, all songs very similiar to Public Enemy's like "night of the living basehead"

talking bout shootings and being in jail, and just theme of their names, Public enemy and NWA, very similar theme.

flavor clocks and all that...

i couldn't find any real good pics of the whole public enemy crew

hip hop is not for kids. it's adult music. for adults.

[RealG]

thats the dumbest post ever posted 

tell that to the 16 year old krs one back in the day, and the Nasty Nas, and Eazy E and tupac or Mc New York when digital underground found him
or big daddy kane, too short, all kids when they started, so you lost me with this post homie, how old was flavor flav back then?
hip hop starts with youth, old men just sit around talking about it all day, or trying to force it into some wierd mold they want to force the youth into...like brainwashing and other sorts, ju heard whot me sed?!?

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

good shit and important points made.
why not jus make westcoast muzik period, is that too hard?
let alone go all the way to the south or other regions?
the west isnt even make westcoast muzik anymore?
for the ones that are theyre not heard on a more advance level!
but i get what you sayin

[RealG]

good shit and important points made.
why not jus make westcoast muzik period, is that too hard?
let alone go all the way to the south or other regions?
the west isnt even make westcoast muzik anymore?
for the ones that are theyre not heard on a more advance level!
but i get what you sayin

phases homie, everything has phases.

Gangsta rap is dying because none of the rappers are believable, everyone knows who the real gangstas are you feel me, and they ain't on tv, the up the street selling cyrstal and coke and weed and shit, and keeping it g, getting locked up so many times they end up doing life,
ask yourself this question?

what record label is gonna sign a niggah like that?  real gangstas be in shoot outs, getting locked up, that shit is a liability to the fucking record company, they gotta pay lawyer fees, bails, fees for artist not showing up, extra security, crazy shit, those white dudes in the office don't want to ever meet real g's

but they kick it with Hollywood Loc in a minute, you feel my drift

so who wants to hear some bullshit you feel me, niggahs is trying to hear that everyday real life shit, and some niggahs got it, they just ain't able to get it to the masses or they record at bullshit studios were the quality is ass so you don't even want to buy it.  but that is why gangsta rap is dying

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

nah you speakin on some real shit
all im sayin (a lil off topic but important) we need ras kass, crooked, chino xl (hes considered westcoast to some) techniec, eastwood, mitchy slick, on the higher note.  yeah the labels aint gon want to fucc wit real street cats but fucc them to begin wit.  go indie, go another route where that wont be a problem.  posed to be a dynasty right?  where the fuck is the westcoast dynasty?  yeah its dyin but it can be re-lived and heard again.  it was done before and it can be done again.  cats sayin big tray deee will be too old when he gets out, hell be older but not too old.  sides that wheres crooked?  we need heat on the regular.  if we had face, z-ro, and other heavy hitters wed be good but we dont.  thats what we need!
shouts out to bishop for tryin but its gon take more than that!
if you havent done any research on tech n9ne's success, you should do some. 
 homies been hard at work for years and ive been a fan for years, ive been ridin wit him for years, sayin FUCK THA INDUSTRY FOR YEARS and always will.  they werent wit us before and they never will be whether the checks fly in or not. 
finally hes gettin respected,
hes gettin the big checks,
hes gettin the tour buses
hes gettin the concerts/shows like crazy
hes gettin albums out on the regular
puttin his artists out on time


who helped him?  noone but himself. 
why cant this coast do the same?  (more than 1 rapper?)
why the fuck are you gon do a interview and not come thru wit what you were sayin?

thats why again, to the death of me, ITS FUCK THA INDUSTRY!

good shit and important points made.
why not jus make westcoast muzik period, is that too hard?
let alone go all the way to the south or other regions?
the west isnt even make westcoast muzik anymore?
for the ones that are theyre not heard on a more advance level!
but i get what you sayin

phases homie, everything has phases.

Gangsta rap is dying because none of the rappers are believable, everyone knows who the real gangstas are you feel me, and they ain't on tv, the up the street selling cyrstal and coke and weed and shit, and keeping it g, getting locked up so many times they end up doing life,
ask yourself this question?

what record label is gonna sign a niggah like that?  real gangstas be in shoot outs, getting locked up, that shit is a liability to the fucking record company, they gotta pay lawyer fees, bails, fees for artist not showing up, extra security, crazy shit, those white dudes in the office don't want to ever meet real g's

but they kick it with Hollywood Loc in a minute, you feel my drift

so who wants to hear some bullshit you feel me, niggahs is trying to hear that everyday real life shit, and some niggahs got it, they just ain't able to get it to the masses or they record at bullshit studios were the quality is ass so you don't even want to buy it.  but that is why gangsta rap is dying

[RealG]

when a west coast rapper makes a downsouth track, that shit is hot, cause then all of a sudden down south niggahs jump on the coasts dick!

for instance "haters" by Glasses Malone, thats the shit, and thats a down south track,
yall can't tell me that ain't the shit, nope!

[you gon always be my latin queen bitch]

for example a mistake g malone made was not pushin fucc wit me,
bangin tracc
club hit
street anthem
one of the hardest hes put out IMO
but we got certified, that didnt do well!

[Realbiggsteele]

Certified was over 1000 plus spins a week,how did it not do well?^^^^ The thing is R-Tistic, I feel you. but the whole basis for southern hip hop, The 808 drum kit was perfected by two west coast cats...Comptons own Dr. Dre,(Yeah, he started outdoing bass music) and David "Mr.Mixx" Hobbs from Riverside, Ca who went on to produce & DJ for the 2-live crew as well as start the "Miami Bass" movement which morphed into the sound used today by many southern Artist. Check "Geto Style DJ's" whichutilizes
a chopped and screwed hook<This was 20 years ago mind you. This ain't really nothing but a reversion back to what was popping before.The "southern sound" was also a big part of New York hip hop, check out Mantronix and T-La Rock.
Good music is good music. If thats the case, the G-funk era was birthed in Ohio, home of funk,(Zapp, Lakeside etc,etc,etc)