The West is starting to roll and go the right direction

[David Mack]

Da threadstarter is a fuckin bitch ass Trick Eitha he been livin under a rock or hidin in his mommaz pussa cuz he makes things seem so simple. What yall don't undestand is most theeze niggas have enormous marketin budgets cuz they fuck with major record labels or corporations but they make 40 cents a fucken CD but we think they all ballin cuz we seem em on MTV on every other music video. The new west niggas gotta create they own hype ratha then doin the same old recycled bullshit we here on TV but the "industry heavies" don't support their shit and niggas like crooked, yaboy, jay rock, eastwood can't catch a fuckin break. Itz all about repetition we here Lil waynes lollipop or flowridas latest single like twice each hour on the radio and they music video probably 20 times daily. Tha more u listen to that shit, tha more people dig it.................simple marketing. Itz up to those Billionaire executives sitting up at universal, sony, etc on what shit gets played and what shit gets shelved and da Generation of kids and teens are told what type of music to like cuz everyone know 99 percent of "rap" showed on Mtv Muchmusic or whateva is pure bullshit. What attracts pop music?? catchy bubblegum beat and a catchy hook nobody give a fuck about flow lyrics etc dats why niggas like 50 cent lil wayne snoop makin da shit they do.  I can't say I blame em cuz they sellin more records but dat shit ain't my cup of tea.
Kimbo OUT!!!

[kuruptDPG]

This would be my tracklist if I was the executive producer and it would have platinum written all over it:

Ice Cube -- "My Footage"

01 - I Love L.A. (ft. Keisha Cole) * keisha would lead it off and cube would deliver the verses for a westcoast classic you can ride to
02 - Cube's Pain (ft. T-Pain) * This would be a darker track about growing up and struggling with T-Pain on the hook and have a piano in the beat
03 - Do Ya Thang
04 - LA Nites (ft. T-Pain) * This would be the signature T-Pain party track
05 - Why Me? (ft. Babyface) * Replace Musiqsoulchild with Babyface
06 - Les Deux and Area (ft. Nas & Jagged Edge) * party track with nas and cube flossing and JE on the hook
07 - V.I.P. (ft. Rick Ross & R. Kelly) * party track talking about what happens when ross and cube roll up to the club with kel's on the hook
08 - Get Money, Spend Money, No Money
09 - Get Used To It (ft. The Game & WC) * banger
10 - We Rich (ft. Snoop Dogg & Fat Joe) * party track with cube and fat joe going back and forth and snoop dogg on the hook
11 - Boss Major (ft. DJ Khaled & Rick Ross) * cube talking about coming up and his movie career and ross talking about coming up with khaled on the beat
12 - I Got My Locs On (ft. Young Jeezy)
13 - Get My Drink On (ft. Tha Dogg Pound)  * add a Cube verse to the track and chalk it up for the classics
14 - Friday Night Lights (ft. Kanye West) * cube and kanye talking about all the girls that want to sleep with them for the lifestyle and the money
15 - Get Busy Girrrl (ft. Nelly & Akon) * party track with nelly getting the girls to move while cube tells them to shake their ass and akon brings the smooth hook
16 - Take Me Away (ft. Lil Wayne & Bobby Valentino) * depressing track with lil wayne spitting a deep verse and valentino on a depressing hook
17 - Thank God (ft. Kanye West & Usher) - throw kanye and usher on telling stories of prayer and give thanks to the man upstairs

LMAO!!

LOL Cube aint from the south lol and he'l never rap wit those guys

[G-Funk]

collaborating with some of those artists to get hits sounds like selling out to me.

[R-Tistic]

Your post makes some sense...I agree with some of it, but not completely.

For one, it depends what the artist want to do...make an impact that will last more than just the 3 months the song is in rotation, or just make a flashpan hit that's here today and gone tomorrow. I feel that you don't have to make all club singles, but if you have a single, it has to have appeal..whether it's danceable, or somethin to ride to...and if it is somethin deeper or more lyrical, it has to try even harder to have that appeal in the way tracks like "One mic" and "Keep ya head up" did.

I feel that tracks like "Wake it up" and "U and dat" were more flashpan hits that had the elements the modern crowd likes, but these songs would not make a true E-40 fan's greatest hits album in the way that "Player's ball" and "Captain save a ho" would. It's like "ok, I wanna make a hit...let's go to T-Paikon and get a hot beat for radio and it'll help sell"....and truth is, most of these kinds of singles NEVER sell albums, and they damn sure aren't seen as classics in most cases, because it sounds forced and as if anybody coulda made a hit because the beat and hook is 80% of the song anyway.

That tracklist you listed is not an Ice Cube album, but a "layout for anybody who wants to sell hella records." Most classic albums aren't built off guest appearances unless it's producer driven like Dre's...and if it does have features, they are family-based features that keep the cohesive flow to the album. That album you listed, that has a feature on every track, could easily be Nelly, or T.I., or Luda, or Jim Jones' album, and it would damn near sound the same because the features and production would make the album, and not the artist.

[thebayinthebildin]

WOWWW brooo u are a grade A faggot.....now i know u didnt say crooked i needs to learn how to flow?

ur post lost all its validity in my eyes crooked has the best flow in the fuckin world let alone the west lol.....so u want crooked to make some sell out shit? its not all about the radio....crooked is putting out quality music and people like u who think u gotta sell records to be hot are starting to fuckin piss me off. the radio is fuckin GARBAGE all u hear is gay ass soulja boy/hurricane chris type shit and real niggas aint tryin to hear that shit.....shit's not REAL hip hop ....its straight hip pop

[David Mack]

anotha thing nigga u talk bout Rick ross doin dis and doin dat but he got Def Jam and Jay Z backin his fat ass. He had promotion day in and day out on BET and guest appearances like Jigga. Wit dat type of marketing budget, tha corporate heavies were expectin dat nigga to go platinum but he didn't not even close so I would consider him a failure in a money makin standpoint but dumasses like u see him on MTV and BET and say "oh dis nigga be ballin he on TV now i gotta suck his dick." Nothin against Rick Ross he doin his thang and he out there in MIAMI where Kimbo's hood done be ya feel me?