So, is it the Offense or the QB?

[eS El Duque]

If Pats do well this year...we can put to rest all the arguements about Brady being the shit 

Cuz if i remember  correctly...a lot of ppl on dubcc (including me) believed that the Pats are just as good without Brady back in there....he aint the greatest motherfuckas


We get to find out this season. 

[.:DaYg0sTyLz:.]

no way are they JUST as good without him. Thats ridiculous. But I do agree, he's nowhere near the greatest.

[Shallow]

no way are they JUST as good without him. Thats ridiculous. But I do agree, he's nowhere near the greatest.

Is Cassel as good as Brady? I certainly don't think so, but I think a lot of that has to do with experience and getting to know a system. I don't expect over 30 TDs from Cassel and definitely not over 40. But I think, if he plays the full season, he can put up over 18 TDs and and over 3000 yards (BRady's first year coming in for an injured Bledsoe). Time will tell.


And the answer is a QB is only as good as the offense. Joe Montana on his best day could have walked into Miami and played last year and they'd still have been the worst team in the league.

[OG Hack Wilson]

matt cassle = career backup


brady will look like god in comparrison

[eS El Duque]

im just a die hard boston hater 


So every week im gonna bring back this thread...and post up Matt Cassel's numbers

[Primo]

thanks since i am the one of the only ones that is actually from the boston area. Cassell can't carry this team. I see Chris Simms coming in or Tim Rattay.

["THE" MoSav]

THATS CRAP!! Maybe Cassell is just a good qb, doggy.
BRADY WON ALL HIS SB's without a 1000 wr, remember that before you run ur yap 

[Shallow]

THATS CRAP!! Maybe Cassell is just a good qb, doggy.
BRADY WON ALL HIS SB's without a 1000 wr, remember that before you run ur yap 

Everyone in the NFL is a good QB. Shit just to make the league you have to be in the top 100 in the world. But Cassel is a lifelong backup. And if a lifelong backup were to win when put on the spot, under pressure, that tells me the QB is not that important to that team.


Of course the Pats never had 1000 yard guys. They were never that kind of team. Marino was on horrible teams and had at times two 1000 yard WRs, and other teams did great with no 1000 yard guys. The Pats were a defensive team those years they won the big games. They'd get the ball back quick and have good position when they got it. And the Erhardt - Perkins system they ran meant the ball was distributed a lot. And Brady himself only had 2900 the first year and the 3500+ in the other two were like 2100 yards after the catch. The play-action screen pass system is designed so you don't need a QB with a monster arm, and a QB to force it in there.

I'd like to see a youtube video of all the passes Brady threw where he had to thread the needle. It'd probably be 3 seconds long. It's not Brady's fault that all these years his WRs are positioned to be wide open almost every play. But let's just see how he does in a season when they aren't.

Anyway, let's just wait and see how the season turns out. I'll gladly admit I was wrong if the Pats go down.

[OG Hack Wilson]

anybody here on this board can go 3-13 with that offense

cassell can go maybe 8-8 to 10-6

[Shallow]

anybody here on this board can go 3-13 with that offense

cassell can go maybe 8-8 to 10-6

And what IF he goes 12-4 or better? Just a question.

[OG Hack Wilson]

anybody here on this board can go 3-13 with that offense

cassell can go maybe 8-8 to 10-6

And what IF he goes 12-4 or better? Just a question.

then Bill Belichick hired a new camera man

the "What if" game is fun to play, but some people on my radio station (remember I live in Maine, NE territory) were saying they'd be 12-4 WITH brady this year bc of the aging defense

[Shallow]

anybody here on this board can go 3-13 with that offense

cassell can go maybe 8-8 to 10-6

And what IF he goes 12-4 or better? Just a question.

then Bill Belichick hired a new camera man

the "What if" game is fun to play, but some people on my radio station (remember I live in Maine, NE territory) were saying they'd be 12-4 WITH brady this year bc of the aging defense

Exactly, that's why 12-4 this year would mean a lot. On last years with that division and that schedule I could have went 10-6.

You talk 8-8 or 10-6 like it's happened. It's only the What If game when it's fantasy. This season is still going on. Cassel made a play that won the game from the end zone (Moss had as much to do with it though), and Matt hasn't even practiced with the first team yet. Let's see how week 2 turns out before we predict the long stretch. They lose to the Jets and it's up in the air, but they walk over the Jets and Phins, and then beat the Chargers, and we got ourselves a ball game.

[OG Hack Wilson]

thats your guy?

[Shallow]

thats your guy?

After seeing that, it's 13-3 or better.

[OG Hack Wilson]

hahahaha

why do the Pats keep all these homosexual QB's on their roster

whats next, Mike Piazza?