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Quote from: eLinsecto on September 21, 2008, 02:14:02 PMQuote from: relic01 on September 21, 2008, 12:12:51 PMSo let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......Man... are you refering to ice cube?, the same hommie who brought us yo-yo, threat, lench mob, kam, k-dee, kausion, del the funky homosapiens, etc... and introduced us to mack 10, whose protegee is g malone, right?... and still u saying he aint brought shit to the table... don't share that point of view. To me, Ice cube just got frustrated of putting people down and then getting all dissapointed, like in kam's case. Maybe it aint he has no time to, he just aint got the feeling to.... all the people mentioned above made him lose it.... peace from EL SALVADOR... oralinsky compadrinskysThanx for the 80's/90's reminder. look it's 2008. No doubt he brought some folks in but I don't know how well versed u are in business but a few of the artists you mentioned still are shitting blood from those deals. Anyhow this is about the here and now. The west had a pulse back then, we are dead right now. Frustrated or not the west needs the OG's to stand by 'em. By the way I just love how the artists you mentioned are just prospering right now hahahahahaha! Peace from Long Beach.......[/b]
Quote from: relic01 on September 21, 2008, 12:12:51 PMSo let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......Man... are you refering to ice cube?, the same hommie who brought us yo-yo, threat, lench mob, kam, k-dee, kausion, del the funky homosapiens, etc... and introduced us to mack 10, whose protegee is g malone, right?... and still u saying he aint brought shit to the table... don't share that point of view. To me, Ice cube just got frustrated of putting people down and then getting all dissapointed, like in kam's case. Maybe it aint he has no time to, he just aint got the feeling to.... all the people mentioned above made him lose it.... peace from EL SALVADOR... oralinsky compadrinskysThanx for the 80's/90's reminder. look it's 2008. No doubt he brought some folks in but I don't know how well versed u are in business but a few of the artists you mentioned still are shitting blood from those deals. Anyhow this is about the here and now. The west had a pulse back then, we are dead right now. Frustrated or not the west needs the OG's to stand by 'em. By the way I just love how the artists you mentioned are just prospering right now hahahahahaha! Peace from Long Beach.......
So let me get this right. It shouldn't be a problem when the OG"s on the west won't help bring new artists into the game? No one is looking for a hand out but didn't TI bring out Dro and PSC? Didn't Jay bring in Siegel, kanye,etc. These guys are business men who will eventually sit on there ass and collect money off of the new blood they bring in. There are icons on the west coast that call our radio stations and stop new west artists albums from being played when the start to blow up. If a coast lacks new blood it will die. u think the west coast is not getting spun just because everyone hates us? No! WE HAVE TO EVOLVE! Niggas been rappin about the same shit since NWA dropped boys in the hood. So if cats wanna ride the old wests dick and be resistant to change than die with the coast. Fratthouse is far from whack and Bishop ,glasses,and crooked are amazing as well. There will be a west devide until the old west recognizes the younstaz. The new west is a factor......
yall are reading into this a little too much. this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musicallandscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and are coming with dope shit. i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore. and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.people already dick ride our shit enough. lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.
Quote from: HimselfTheMajestic on September 21, 2008, 01:32:43 PMyall are reading into this a little too much. this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musicallandscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and are coming with dope shit. i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore. and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.people already dick ride our shit enough. lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.no, to my knowledge, "The New West" means that sound that you hear on the west coast that doesn't sound like the "typical west coast", and alot of people from about 28 and down are doing it.Old west is that typical west coast sound, like if you ask anybody what west coast music sounds like, they tell you that one typical sound thats been played out in TV and video games lol, g funk, don't get me wrong, its still hot, but its old school. I mean, snoop got kids that look like they could be rappers in like 2 more years, we must move on, old school west support the new west generation, (but continue to bump you old west music if you want) and new school west artist, fuck what these old school guys are talking about and go hard!!!!! & you'll all be laughing about this in interviews in about 2 years talking bout how these niggahs was not doing they jobs as icons lol, shit will be funny by then!
Quote from: Amy on September 21, 2008, 04:28:23 PMQuote from: HimselfTheMajestic on September 21, 2008, 01:32:43 PMyall are reading into this a little too much. this new west shit is starting to sound more like a marketing tool.although i appreciate new artists coming in and changing out the musicallandscape for westcoast hip hop, i don't think it's necessary to get that acknowledgment from the older artists. these newer artists are much more talented lyrically and are coming with dope shit. i think everybody on the west, should just go independent.fuck a major label, rap sales aren't there anymore. and fuck bringing the west coast back in the mainstream.people already dick ride our shit enough. lets keep it independent and keep putting out quality music instead.no, to my knowledge, "The New West" means that sound that you hear on the west coast that doesn't sound like the "typical west coast", and alot of people from about 28 and down are doing it.Old west is that typical west coast sound, like if you ask anybody what west coast music sounds like, they tell you that one typical sound thats been played out in TV and video games lol, g funk, don't get me wrong, its still hot, but its old school. I mean, snoop got kids that look like they could be rappers in like 2 more years, we must move on, old school west support the new west generation, (but continue to bump you old west music if you want) and new school west artist, fuck what these old school guys are talking about and go hard!!!!! & you'll all be laughing about this in interviews in about 2 years talking bout how these niggahs was not doing they jobs as icons lol, shit will be funny by then!But Amy, yes, it is going its on way, yet, itq still sounds west coast, you know.. like that WEST SIDE - KAIZER SOSE track, u hear the beat and you know it´s west coast, Mellow beats provided by the left side natural brackground... music evolutionates, for bad or good, but this track beat (west side), sounds a lot like goldie loc beats on loc'd out, ... old dude, album released on 2005... simply evolution, old cats evolutionate with the music or get stock, ice cube aint stocked.... it's like saying them hommies up north in the yay aint doing the hyphy shit... now thats a movement enforced by old and young... lets start doing the same... no new west... simply WEST COAST.... FOE LIFE!Why this flathousers maD? cuz ice cube said he dont want any protegee, let him be, he simply doesnt feel like, look for another cat cat who's willing then, if can't find them, go bolo y solo, then... let's not blame the OGS.... remember "You muthaf**kas programmed by the programmers That’s why you getting locked up by the dope slammers, Not me"... ice cube, it takes a nation...
to me, with most west coast hip hop, mainstream, gangster, "indie","alternative" or otherwise allsounds like shit that was done before. most the beats these cats are using are wanna be dre beats fromhis 2001 era. people are still gang banging on wax and talking about selling crack and talking abouthow dangerous southern california is. so it's not really like anyone switched shit up.aside from a few artists, most everybody still doing the same shit. i like the big majority of the new west though. so im not hating, i just don't really see the "new" part.but i blame this shit on the fans not the artists. people put the artists in a place wherethey gotta adhere to a certain way of being to be successful.like you gotta be a G, you gotta talk about the west coast non stop(seriously yo, how many "welcome to california" songs do we need?),you're not a west coast hip hop artist if you're not rapping on some shit that sounds like funky worm.like god damn, how many times we gonna hear a song with the same fucken sample? yo for real though, i don't blame the artists at all. and west coast underground hip hop ain't what it used tobe either. most artists tend to decline in age but god damn, the quality music coming out ofthe west right now is below average at best. not everybody that comes out the west can be pac, or a big time drug dealer gangster or mack or whatever.and thats all anyone is showing out, and that shits played cuz rappers from the east and the southdoing the same god damn thing.it's not just california that has whack hip hop right now, whack and redundant hip hop is comingout every corner of the US. but california has had the unique opportunity to step up and present some dope material, and there has been a lot of dope material coming, but thesecats keep fucking with major labels and not learning their lessons. with all this boss talk andbeing big time, you'd think these mother fuckers would have founded their own labelsor put their own albums out by now. the last thing that i thought was fresh out the west as far as a movement went, washyphy, but i think that was too flashy and disparate for a lot of people in so cal,so it probably didn't jump off as much as it should've. plus the bay tended to be prettyexclusive with it.also, i do believe older rappers are hogging up a lot of the attention and not lettingdudes shine as far as the mainstream goes, so i will give these dudes that at least.
I love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/"CLOSING IN"
Quote from: pac 4 life on September 21, 2008, 07:23:09 PMI love me some West Coast anthems, thats why my favorite right of all time is pac!this is my shit right here too! West Coast, we do the most get with it!http://www.imeem.com/people/dm5HqGd/music/iqPYCxFQ/kaizer_sose_feat_espy_k_certified_closin_in_kaizer_sos/"CLOSING IN"this my shit too, "Run the City" feat. Lloydhe kills the second versehttp://www.imeem.com/courtneylupinitx/music/YqNCdiZw/lloyd_feat_kaizer_sose_run_the_city/