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Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 11, 2008, 12:56:25 PMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 12:26:41 PMAnyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.i think Shallow meant that after he released The Eminem Show & 8 Mile is was clear that he was number one of the times right there. so like from SSLP to the 8 Mile soundtrack, he was at his peak & runnin the game...soon to fall off...i meant as in i agree with shallow as in at different times and stages, people could be argued to be the best...without someone being the best of all time...And thats why i changed the date of 03 to 2001 imo too because i think after 01 came the time of nas possibly, not to sure on exact dates but i think the last time eminem was at his peak to me was MMLP with an expection on 8 mile were he upped his game again but yes...to me, 2001 i think was the year people could say eminem was the best.My bad if i got you confused ;-)pz
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 12:26:41 PMAnyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.i think Shallow meant that after he released The Eminem Show & 8 Mile is was clear that he was number one of the times right there. so like from SSLP to the 8 Mile soundtrack, he was at his peak & runnin the game...soon to fall off...
Anyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.
Quote from: Hack Wilson on October 10, 2008, 06:03:35 AMhe can be the best rapper alive, after crooked diescomes back TWICE rapping with the passion of christthe best rapper alive hasnt released an album yet then
he can be the best rapper alive, after crooked diescomes back TWICE rapping with the passion of christ
Quote from: CmeeNoMore on October 10, 2008, 08:11:20 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on October 10, 2008, 06:03:35 AMhe can be the best rapper alive, after crooked diescomes back TWICE rapping with the passion of christthe best rapper alive hasnt released an album yet then and the best basketball player alive hasn't won a title yet (lebron)best baseball player (arod)best NFL player (LT)
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 01:05:05 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on October 11, 2008, 12:56:25 PMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 12:26:41 PMAnyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.i think Shallow meant that after he released The Eminem Show & 8 Mile is was clear that he was number one of the times right there. so like from SSLP to the 8 Mile soundtrack, he was at his peak & runnin the game...soon to fall off...i meant as in i agree with shallow as in at different times and stages, people could be argued to be the best...without someone being the best of all time...And thats why i changed the date of 03 to 2001 imo too because i think after 01 came the time of nas possibly, not to sure on exact dates but i think the last time eminem was at his peak to me was MMLP with an expection on 8 mile were he upped his game again but yes...to me, 2001 i think was the year people could say eminem was the best.My bad if i got you confused ;-)pzI picked '03 because it was the year before Encore, but Em Show and 8 Mile were also released by that time too. I'd take him over Nas at that point too, especially in hindsight. When Stillmatic and God Son were released I was so glad he wasn't releasing another Nastradamus album and was so sick of the Jay Z 5 mic hype I was praising those albums to no end but going back to them now they aren't any better than I Am and nowhere near Illmatic. I think Em Show is better than both those albums. Many would disagree, but my idea of what an album is changed dramatically over the past few years as I started listening to and appreciating other genres of music. Eminem may have shown with MMLP his rap abilities but I always felt when he put out the Em Show he better understood what an album should be and put out a better and more solid effort with Em Show.It's all a matter of taste though. I think saying 50's or Game's debuts are even close to SSLP is laughable. I can't get upset because the way you say Whiteboy classic I say Hip Hop classic. Chronic may be a great album of the early 90s but when compared to Vs or Nevermind it falls way short in my eyes. As good as Eminem was in '03 I would never say he even had half the talent of a Jack White.
Quote from: CmeeNoMore on October 10, 2008, 08:11:20 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on October 10, 2008, 06:03:35 AMhe can be the best rapper alive, after crooked diescomes back TWICE rapping with the passion of christthe best rapper alive hasnt released an album yet then and the best basketball player alive hasn't won a title yet (lebron)best baseball player (arod)best NFL player (LT)whats your point?? has crook not dropped enough tracks to prove that he's better than any1 else??? thats what i thought."albums" are the past, rap now is ran by mixtapes. thats how people get heard. ain't nobody dropping ill albums anymore. ppl arent patient.hack out
Quote from: Shallow on October 11, 2008, 09:33:38 PMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 01:05:05 PMQuote from: Chamillitary Click on October 11, 2008, 12:56:25 PMQuote from: LyRiCaL_G on October 11, 2008, 12:26:41 PMAnyway im kinda with shallow to a certain extent...but not 03, i think that was nas time but i cannot remember but around 2001, was probably eminem at his peak...he had a few moments after, like the source disses and 8 mile but he was well past played out by that stage.i think Shallow meant that after he released The Eminem Show & 8 Mile is was clear that he was number one of the times right there. so like from SSLP to the 8 Mile soundtrack, he was at his peak & runnin the game...soon to fall off...i meant as in i agree with shallow as in at different times and stages, people could be argued to be the best...without someone being the best of all time...And thats why i changed the date of 03 to 2001 imo too because i think after 01 came the time of nas possibly, not to sure on exact dates but i think the last time eminem was at his peak to me was MMLP with an expection on 8 mile were he upped his game again but yes...to me, 2001 i think was the year people could say eminem was the best.My bad if i got you confused ;-)pzI picked '03 because it was the year before Encore, but Em Show and 8 Mile were also released by that time too. I'd take him over Nas at that point too, especially in hindsight. When Stillmatic and God Son were released I was so glad he wasn't releasing another Nastradamus album and was so sick of the Jay Z 5 mic hype I was praising those albums to no end but going back to them now they aren't any better than I Am and nowhere near Illmatic. I think Em Show is better than both those albums. Many would disagree, but my idea of what an album is changed dramatically over the past few years as I started listening to and appreciating other genres of music. Eminem may have shown with MMLP his rap abilities but I always felt when he put out the Em Show he better understood what an album should be and put out a better and more solid effort with Em Show.It's all a matter of taste though. I think saying 50's or Game's debuts are even close to SSLP is laughable. I can't get upset because the way you say Whiteboy classic I say Hip Hop classic. Chronic may be a great album of the early 90s but when compared to Vs or Nevermind it falls way short in my eyes. As good as Eminem was in '03 I would never say he even had half the talent of a Jack White.Listening to other genres of music is dope, alot of people do such as myself and it helps to have a more varied ear but when you judge an hiphop album, u dont compare it with a album from another genre unless they have undeniable links. Its like comparing a maths coursework with an english literature coursework to decide how good it is when really you should be comparing them to others of their own subject. I'd take the nas that came out with stillmatic and gods son anyday over the eminem show/encore and 8 mile eminem...though the 8 mile eminem was dope...but there was not much of him on that. But i've been here long enough to know your history about eminem and nas posts to know who you're a fan of.To find a comment about 50's or games album being doper than SSLP as laughable is funny to me because you say they aint even close to that album but they are both better imo and i aint some stupid kid whos saying this...if you want to compare just as albums. Both have better and more crisp production, yes eminem was a better rapper at that stage of his career than game but 50 was making just as dope hiphop tracks as eminem and some better with his opening album. GRODT sold more than eminems debut and ofcourse that does not mean its a better album but it sure as hell shows the impact it made. There is alot of heat on GRODT and documentary in terms of productions and of an album being 'put together' is much better than SSLP. But then within hiphop, SSLP is not considered a classic, more something hardcore eminem fans will tell you... By the way, im not 50cent fan, im just telling you like it is...MMLP>GRODT>SSLPAlot of different genres have great artists and its about how great they did in there body of work. I think the eminem of SSLP/MMLP/8 mile was a great artist, but as good as he was, i'd never consider him to have half the talent of michael jackson (who i've read some of your posts about) and prince.pz
I agree, nobody fuckin wit him.
Eminem's career takes the worlds LARGEST shit (bigger than Stan Marsh's...<-----for my South Park freinds ) on TI's career.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on October 15, 2008, 05:16:54 PMEminem's career takes the worlds LARGEST shit (bigger than Stan Marsh's...<-----for my South Park freinds ) on TI's career. Whatever.....without the co sign from the good doctor Em wouldn't be shit in the first place.