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My top 5 for MVP:1. LeBron James2. Kobe Bryant3. Dwight Howard4. Chris Paul5. Tim Duncan
Quote from: 360 on January 19, 2009, 03:38:37 PMWhen the games on the line I want Kobe. Not Lebron, not Dwight, not CP3, not D Wade. If that makes him the MVP then so be it. I'm not trying to dis-credit Lebron because what he's doing/has done is pretty fuckin incredible, but when I think of who's the better closer, perimeter defender, shooter, etc then Kobe still takes the cake IMO. Kobe has the resume no doubt. Having said that, he wasn't exactly clutch in his only finals as the leader of his team (nor was a 22 yr old Lebron for that matter). Besides, guess who had the most pts per last 2 mins. of games last year? Not Kobe. And don't look now, but Lebron is the leader of the best defensive team in the league currently, while Kobe's team does not close out on shooters and lets guys into the lane at will. Better shooter? Kobe for sure, but then Lebron still shoots a better FG percentage, gets more assists, blocks, steals, rebounds at very comparable mins. (.8 difference as of now). Really, Lebron has vastly improved as a defender this year, while Kobe has regressed save for a few games (he was against Wade, but has not been bringing it consistently).
When the games on the line I want Kobe. Not Lebron, not Dwight, not CP3, not D Wade. If that makes him the MVP then so be it. I'm not trying to dis-credit Lebron because what he's doing/has done is pretty fuckin incredible, but when I think of who's the better closer, perimeter defender, shooter, etc then Kobe still takes the cake IMO.
Kobe showed he's still better than Lebron in this game ... he did a very good job defensively on him and still had a good game despite being in huge pain ... he's a tough motherfucker ...
Quote from: wcsoldier on January 20, 2009, 10:33:41 AMKobe showed he's still better than Lebron in this game ... he did a very good job defensively on him and still had a good game despite being in huge pain ... he's a tough motherfucker ... look at the other 4 players...
Quote from: Hack Wilson on January 20, 2009, 11:11:58 AMQuote from: wcsoldier on January 20, 2009, 10:33:41 AMKobe showed he's still better than Lebron in this game ... he did a very good job defensively on him and still had a good game despite being in huge pain ... he's a tough motherfucker ... look at the other 4 players...yeah I agree , I will probably win an 1 on 1 game against Mo Williams and all these others Cavs D-Leaguers pretty easily
Quote from: Hack Wilson on January 19, 2009, 03:49:05 PMQuote from: teecee on January 19, 2009, 03:36:32 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson on January 19, 2009, 03:23:34 PMmy top 5 mvps:LebronHowardBillupsDuncanPierceDude, you are almost as lame as NIK! For real, no Kobe in the top 5 for MVP? Str8 bullshit. I have never been a Kobe fan, but to say he is not an top 5 MVP candidate is lame. The hate for Kobe is too thick around here. He may not be having his best season, but then again neither is Duncan or Pierce (who has been ASS), and that didn't stop you from putting them top 5. I know you are a huge Celtics fan (dope team), but Pierce is not top 5, or even top 10 this year. The rest of your list is nice, although Kobe deserves a spot no doubt. Either way, its Lebron's to win. Having said that, he was up there last year for a long while too, but tanked at the end. His numbers were much better last year, but his team is so improved this year, and if you've watched all his games this year, you know he is on another level right now.every GAME.........75-7maybe my math is off but...
Quote from: teecee on January 19, 2009, 03:36:32 PMQuote from: Hack Wilson on January 19, 2009, 03:23:34 PMmy top 5 mvps:LebronHowardBillupsDuncanPierceDude, you are almost as lame as NIK! For real, no Kobe in the top 5 for MVP? Str8 bullshit. I have never been a Kobe fan, but to say he is not an top 5 MVP candidate is lame. The hate for Kobe is too thick around here. He may not be having his best season, but then again neither is Duncan or Pierce (who has been ASS), and that didn't stop you from putting them top 5. I know you are a huge Celtics fan (dope team), but Pierce is not top 5, or even top 10 this year. The rest of your list is nice, although Kobe deserves a spot no doubt. Either way, its Lebron's to win. Having said that, he was up there last year for a long while too, but tanked at the end. His numbers were much better last year, but his team is so improved this year, and if you've watched all his games this year, you know he is on another level right now.every GAME.........75-7
Quote from: Hack Wilson on January 19, 2009, 03:23:34 PMmy top 5 mvps:LebronHowardBillupsDuncanPierceDude, you are almost as lame as NIK! For real, no Kobe in the top 5 for MVP? Str8 bullshit. I have never been a Kobe fan, but to say he is not an top 5 MVP candidate is lame. The hate for Kobe is too thick around here. He may not be having his best season, but then again neither is Duncan or Pierce (who has been ASS), and that didn't stop you from putting them top 5. I know you are a huge Celtics fan (dope team), but Pierce is not top 5, or even top 10 this year. The rest of your list is nice, although Kobe deserves a spot no doubt. Either way, its Lebron's to win. Having said that, he was up there last year for a long while too, but tanked at the end. His numbers were much better last year, but his team is so improved this year, and if you've watched all his games this year, you know he is on another level right now.
my top 5 mvps:LebronHowardBillupsDuncanPierce
Quote from: wcsoldier on January 20, 2009, 11:15:31 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on January 20, 2009, 11:11:58 AMQuote from: wcsoldier on January 20, 2009, 10:33:41 AMKobe showed he's still better than Lebron in this game ... he did a very good job defensively on him and still had a good game despite being in huge pain ... he's a tough motherfucker ... look at the other 4 players...yeah I agree , I will probably win an 1 on 1 game against Mo Williams and all these others Cavs D-Leaguers pretty easily Who the fuck said they were "D-leaguers"?? The Cavs have been playing great, but they aren't the most talented team in the league by any means, and they definitely cannot do without D-West and Ilgauskas. Having said that, would either of those guys start on the Lakers? Exactly.
Quote from: teecee on January 20, 2009, 11:20:54 AMQuote from: wcsoldier on January 20, 2009, 11:15:31 AMQuote from: Hack Wilson on January 20, 2009, 11:11:58 AMQuote from: wcsoldier on January 20, 2009, 10:33:41 AMKobe showed he's still better than Lebron in this game ... he did a very good job defensively on him and still had a good game despite being in huge pain ... he's a tough motherfucker ... look at the other 4 players...yeah I agree , I will probably win an 1 on 1 game against Mo Williams and all these others Cavs D-Leaguers pretty easily Who the fuck said they were "D-leaguers"?? The Cavs have been playing great, but they aren't the most talented team in the league by any means, and they definitely cannot do without D-West and Ilgauskas. Having said that, would either of those guys start on the Lakers? Exactly. D-West and Ilguaskas both > Luke Walton. Cavs are one of the better teams in the league on the defensive end, and that's without LeBron. LeBron has a nice supporting cast, face it. The team defense is more vital to their success than LeBron is. LeBron is nowhere near Kobe's level as of now...PeACe