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We should listen to Jose Canseco
« on: February 09, 2009, 07:53:15 PM »
Everything this guy has said about the steroids era has turned out to be true.  He has said if you want to get to the root of the steroid issue go after Bud Selig, Donald Fehr, and Gene Orza.  It pisses me off how Bud Selig is going relatively unscathed though this whole process.  Everyone blames the players and owners.  People are starting to blame the media and the fans for turning a blind eye or just being plain naive.  Here is the guy that is the head cheese and no is questioning him.  He is a horrible commissioner and the only good thing he has done in his tenure is the expansion to 3 divisions.  It's time the gov't goes after Selig, Fehr, and Orza.
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2009, 08:29:09 PM »
There is no ending performance enhancing drugs in sports. It's going to be there forever, no matter who is in charge of the MLB. Yeah maybe they can bring in the new Landis and kick everyone out of the league, scare everyone straight for a while and kill the sport even more so with the fans but even that would only be temporary. They'll always be new drugs that aren't tested yet.

Live and let live. Steroids aren't going to kill these athletes anymore than the average American's fast food diet will. There is no such thing as an even playing field in sports anyway so these idiots need to stop trying to think they can create one. Should athletes with naturally high testosterone be forced to take pills that lower it to an average level?
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2009, 08:33:08 PM »
There is no ending performance enhancing drugs in sports. It's going to be there forever, no matter who is in charge of the MLB. Yeah maybe they can bring in the new Landis and kick everyone out of the league, scare everyone straight for a while and kill the sport even more so with the fans but even that would only be temporary. They'll always be new drugs that aren't tested yet.

Live and let live. Steroids aren't going to kill these athletes anymore than the average American's fast food diet will. There is no such thing as an even playing field in sports anyway so these idiots need to stop trying to think they can create one. Should athletes with naturally high testosterone be forced to take pills that lower it to an average level?

shut up already, I don't think I have ever seen a post by you where you agree with anything anyone says.  And I you know what if this prevents a few players from not juicing, it's worth it. 
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2009, 11:15:40 PM »
There is no ending performance enhancing drugs in sports. It's going to be there forever, no matter who is in charge of the MLB. Yeah maybe they can bring in the new Landis and kick everyone out of the league, scare everyone straight for a while and kill the sport even more so with the fans but even that would only be temporary. They'll always be new drugs that aren't tested yet.

Live and let live. Steroids aren't going to kill these athletes anymore than the average American's fast food diet will. There is no such thing as an even playing field in sports anyway so these idiots need to stop trying to think they can create one. Should athletes with naturally high testosterone be forced to take pills that lower it to an average level?

shut up already, I don't think I have ever seen a post by you where you agree with anything anyone says.  And I you know what if this prevents a few players from not juicing, it's worth it. 

Why is it worth it? Why are steroids so bad?
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2009, 12:26:57 AM »
There is no ending performance enhancing drugs in sports. It's going to be there forever, no matter who is in charge of the MLB. Yeah maybe they can bring in the new Landis and kick everyone out of the league, scare everyone straight for a while and kill the sport even more so with the fans but even that would only be temporary. They'll always be new drugs that aren't tested yet.

Live and let live. Steroids aren't going to kill these athletes anymore than the average American's fast food diet will. There is no such thing as an even playing field in sports anyway so these idiots need to stop trying to think they can create one. Should athletes with naturally high testosterone be forced to take pills that lower it to an average level?

shut up already, I don't think I have ever seen a post by you where you agree with anything anyone says.  And I you know what if this prevents a few players from not juicing, it's worth it. 

Why is it worth it? Why are steroids so bad?
Well for one thing, it gives you little man syndrome.  I bet MLB regretted blackballing Canseco from getting a chance to hit 500 home runs now ;D
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2009, 05:22:20 AM »
after jc romero got a 50 game suspension for something he picked up in jersey, i gotta question this whole thing, they need to get their shit straight, theres too much ambiguity, and like shallow said, there will always be new drugs that pass the test, i dont think mlb will be able to outlast this cat and mouse game of trying to catch players on something
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2009, 09:26:23 AM »
When Selig took over, I had a feeling he was not going to do well. He screwed up the players strike, and it was under his watch we didn't have a World Series. He tried to take out 4 teams, including the Minnesota Twins for no other reason than his Milwaukee Brewers will double in value without a team in Minnesota. Selig is the worst Commissioner in MLB history.
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2009, 09:42:16 AM »
When Selig took over, I had a feeling he was not going to do well. He screwed up the players strike, and it was under his watch we didn't have a World Series. He tried to take out 4 teams, including the Minnesota Twins for no other reason than his Milwaukee Brewers will double in value without a team in Minnesota. Selig is the worst Commissioner in MLB history.


At least he didn't rob the sport of Shoeless Joe.
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2009, 11:06:54 AM »
When Selig took over, I had a feeling he was not going to do well. He screwed up the players strike, and it was under his watch we didn't have a World Series. He tried to take out 4 teams, including the Minnesota Twins for no other reason than his Milwaukee Brewers will double in value without a team in Minnesota. Selig is the worst Commissioner in MLB history.


At least he didn't rob the sport of Shoeless Joe.

yeah, just 4 yeams, Devil Rays, Twins, Expos and the Marlins. The Devil Rays were just a team for like 4 years and they were already being talked about as gone, the Marlins came off a World Series but when their owner held a fire sale on stars, the fans turned them out, the Expos moved to Washington and are doing well for themselves, and the Twins were in first place, and the only thing they needed was a new stadium, which the state of Minnesota didn't want to pay for when they were owned by a multi-millionaire and Minnesota is a small state with a small budget. I understood the Expos, since they ended up moving to Washington anyways, but the Florida teams was crazy, since the Rays eventually went to a World Series and the Marlins could be good and attract fans whenever the owner feels like it. As for the Twins, they have a whole state that supports them, and the only logic was that they couldn't get a public own stadium. I maybe a big government type of person, but I feel the government should NEVER pay for a stadium when we have things like education and health care to worry about. Well, Minnesota eventually caved in and we get Target Field in 2010... yeah.  :-\
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2009, 02:50:02 PM »
TRUE
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2009, 06:49:01 PM »
MLB would be a lot better if they had less teams.  The only time people show up for Marlins games is when they're in the World Series.  And Washington ain't doing shit.  Waste of millions :(  Education, & health care is way more important than sports.  And the Twins are not that well supported anymore.  They stopped selling out years ago.  But they fought 2 not get contracted
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2009, 08:44:24 PM »
When Selig took over, I had a feeling he was not going to do well. He screwed up the players strike, and it was under his watch we didn't have a World Series. He tried to take out 4 teams, including the Minnesota Twins for no other reason than his Milwaukee Brewers will double in value without a team in Minnesota. Selig is the worst Commissioner in MLB history.


At least he didn't rob the sport of Shoeless Joe.

I just read a book about the 1919 White Sox and each of those players deserved what they got
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2009, 10:04:04 PM »
When Selig took over, I had a feeling he was not going to do well. He screwed up the players strike, and it was under his watch we didn't have a World Series. He tried to take out 4 teams, including the Minnesota Twins for no other reason than his Milwaukee Brewers will double in value without a team in Minnesota. Selig is the worst Commissioner in MLB history.


At least he didn't rob the sport of Shoeless Joe.

I just read a book about the 1919 White Sox and each of those players deserved what they got


Most of them maybe, but Shoeless Joe played like an animal in that series.

I still have a soft spot in my heart for all of them. They were the best team in baseball and paid like shit while Comiskey sucked in all that doe.
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2009, 10:09:36 PM »
MLB would be a lot better if they had less teams.  The only time people show up for Marlins games is when they're in the World Series.  And Washington ain't doing shit.  Waste of millions :(  Education, & health care is way more important than sports.  And the Twins are not that well supported anymore.  They stopped selling out years ago.  But they fought 2 not get contracted

With Minnesota, I can honestly say it's the stadium. Try watching a game in the Metrodome. The weather is only nice a few months out of the year, it's a baseball game, yet during this time you are forced to watch baseball indoors. Sucks, I went to watch the Twins once and am not even excited to pay $7 to see my Angels come to town because the stadium sucks that much. I think a smaller outdoor park will do well. The team is always scrappy and people here love their Twins, just not that big empty feeling trash bag of a stadium.

I agree, education and health care is way more important than sports. I feel that if government is to pay for stadiums, then hell, lets limit player pay, owner take, and lets have the cities profit. Imagine what a city could do with the profits of a sports team. Now if that team pays for their own stadium, fine, do what you do, pay what you pay. But if you take tax money to pay for a stadium, the the people should benefit.
 

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Re: We should listen to Jose Canseco
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 12:46:46 AM »
I guess so far every name he's mentioned has been outed in the past few years