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Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:24:08 PMQuote from: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND on March 26, 2009, 12:44:09 AMIn a court of law, objective evidence and enough subjective personal testimony will usually allow you a verdict on the existence and facts of an event. A really strong arguement needs a combination of both types of supporting evidence. With this ufo and alien shit, if you look into it; the documented personal and historical cultural testimony is huge, its undeniable. Just like the existence of Satan, so i can go shootup my school and claim that satan possessed me and made me do it. The court of law would have to believe me and find me innocent as there are huge amounts of objective/subjective/documented historical/cultural evidence on demonic possessions to acquit me. Satan can't posses you unless you allow him to. So therefore, it's still you that did it even if you were possessed. Besides, you'd have to have everyone in your school witness that you were indeed possessed by the devil in order to get not guilty. Only under those circumstances would the parallel that you drew actually hold merit.
Quote from: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND on March 26, 2009, 12:44:09 AMIn a court of law, objective evidence and enough subjective personal testimony will usually allow you a verdict on the existence and facts of an event. A really strong arguement needs a combination of both types of supporting evidence. With this ufo and alien shit, if you look into it; the documented personal and historical cultural testimony is huge, its undeniable. Just like the existence of Satan, so i can go shootup my school and claim that satan possessed me and made me do it. The court of law would have to believe me and find me innocent as there are huge amounts of objective/subjective/documented historical/cultural evidence on demonic possessions to acquit me.
In a court of law, objective evidence and enough subjective personal testimony will usually allow you a verdict on the existence and facts of an event. A really strong arguement needs a combination of both types of supporting evidence. With this ufo and alien shit, if you look into it; the documented personal and historical cultural testimony is huge, its undeniable.
Quote from: Underground King on March 26, 2009, 03:43:41 PMQuote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:20:27 PMI have a hard time believing the source from which you got the article from as 'ufocasebook' when i explored through it seemed like a site that strongly advocates the existence of UFO's. This is just like me pulling out an article from 'whitepower.com' about how skin color determines intelligence level. And that article also got 'witnesses (from experiments)' and 'scientists' claiming that the darker your skin pigmentation, the lower your intelligence. lol, do you even know who Kevin Randle is? He's arguably the greatest expert on Roswell, has done endless amounts of research. He interviewed this man as well and verified the story. And where do you recommend looking for UFO information...foxnews.com? Do you believe crop circles are man made?Where did I mention foxnews.com? Although foxnews.com is one news source that I personally recommend you should not look at for accurate non-bias information on anything. I've read some things on crop circles but my knowledge on them is not as extensive enough for me to comment on.
Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:20:27 PMI have a hard time believing the source from which you got the article from as 'ufocasebook' when i explored through it seemed like a site that strongly advocates the existence of UFO's. This is just like me pulling out an article from 'whitepower.com' about how skin color determines intelligence level. And that article also got 'witnesses (from experiments)' and 'scientists' claiming that the darker your skin pigmentation, the lower your intelligence. lol, do you even know who Kevin Randle is? He's arguably the greatest expert on Roswell, has done endless amounts of research. He interviewed this man as well and verified the story. And where do you recommend looking for UFO information...foxnews.com? Do you believe crop circles are man made?
I have a hard time believing the source from which you got the article from as 'ufocasebook' when i explored through it seemed like a site that strongly advocates the existence of UFO's. This is just like me pulling out an article from 'whitepower.com' about how skin color determines intelligence level. And that article also got 'witnesses (from experiments)' and 'scientists' claiming that the darker your skin pigmentation, the lower your intelligence.
Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Underground King on March 26, 2009, 03:43:41 PMQuote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:20:27 PMI have a hard time believing the source from which you got the article from as 'ufocasebook' when i explored through it seemed like a site that strongly advocates the existence of UFO's. This is just like me pulling out an article from 'whitepower.com' about how skin color determines intelligence level. And that article also got 'witnesses (from experiments)' and 'scientists' claiming that the darker your skin pigmentation, the lower your intelligence. lol, do you even know who Kevin Randle is? He's arguably the greatest expert on Roswell, has done endless amounts of research. He interviewed this man as well and verified the story. And where do you recommend looking for UFO information...foxnews.com? Do you believe crop circles are man made?Where did I mention foxnews.com? Although foxnews.com is one news source that I personally recommend you should not look at for accurate non-bias information on anything. I've read some things on crop circles but my knowledge on them is not as extensive enough for me to comment on.Ok, where do you recommend I go for accurate information about UFO's then? You're quick to criticize my sources so I guess you know better ones?Info on crop circles...No way these were made by man in just a few hours overnight. http://www.youtube.com/v/_KoR2t-iM9k
Quote from: Underground King on March 26, 2009, 04:09:06 PMQuote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Underground King on March 26, 2009, 03:43:41 PMQuote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:20:27 PMI have a hard time believing the source from which you got the article from as 'ufocasebook' when i explored through it seemed like a site that strongly advocates the existence of UFO's. This is just like me pulling out an article from 'whitepower.com' about how skin color determines intelligence level. And that article also got 'witnesses (from experiments)' and 'scientists' claiming that the darker your skin pigmentation, the lower your intelligence. lol, do you even know who Kevin Randle is? He's arguably the greatest expert on Roswell, has done endless amounts of research. He interviewed this man as well and verified the story. And where do you recommend looking for UFO information...foxnews.com? Do you believe crop circles are man made?Where did I mention foxnews.com? Although foxnews.com is one news source that I personally recommend you should not look at for accurate non-bias information on anything. I've read some things on crop circles but my knowledge on them is not as extensive enough for me to comment on.Ok, where do you recommend I go for accurate information about UFO's then? You're quick to criticize my sources so I guess you know better ones?Info on crop circles...No way these were made by man in just a few hours overnight. http://www.youtube.com/v/_KoR2t-iM9kAny source that has not a conspiracist/schizo feel to it. You come across as pretty logical at times, so I do not see why you have problems distinguishing bias from non-bias. And i never claimed that those crop circles were made by man overnight?
Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 04:20:06 PMQuote from: Underground King on March 26, 2009, 04:09:06 PMQuote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:57:16 PMQuote from: Underground King on March 26, 2009, 03:43:41 PMQuote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:20:27 PMI have a hard time believing the source from which you got the article from as 'ufocasebook' when i explored through it seemed like a site that strongly advocates the existence of UFO's. This is just like me pulling out an article from 'whitepower.com' about how skin color determines intelligence level. And that article also got 'witnesses (from experiments)' and 'scientists' claiming that the darker your skin pigmentation, the lower your intelligence. lol, do you even know who Kevin Randle is? He's arguably the greatest expert on Roswell, has done endless amounts of research. He interviewed this man as well and verified the story. And where do you recommend looking for UFO information...foxnews.com? Do you believe crop circles are man made?Where did I mention foxnews.com? Although foxnews.com is one news source that I personally recommend you should not look at for accurate non-bias information on anything. I've read some things on crop circles but my knowledge on them is not as extensive enough for me to comment on.Ok, where do you recommend I go for accurate information about UFO's then? You're quick to criticize my sources so I guess you know better ones?Info on crop circles...No way these were made by man in just a few hours overnight. http://www.youtube.com/v/_KoR2t-iM9kAny source that has not a conspiracist/schizo feel to it. You come across as pretty logical at times, so I do not see why you have problems distinguishing bias from non-bias. And i never claimed that those crop circles were made by man overnight?I completely understand bias, and I know you didn't say the circles were made over night. What I was doing by posting that is a few different things. First, I believe in UFO's / ET's through a lot of my own and others findings. I think these crop circles in these vids are 100% legit, and I wanted you to have a look since you admitted you weren't that familiar. I thought it would be a good starting point and pretty good evidence to support that there are indeed aliens. A lot of sites / blogs that I visit share a similar view to me, which is why I reference them. I don't fully cosign every statement they make of course, I verify my info. It seems you are skeptical on their existance (which I was for nearly my entire life) and I want to show you the light.
Quote from: ωεεźγ ғ on March 26, 2009, 03:24:08 PMQuote from: RETURN OF THE OVERFIEND on March 26, 2009, 12:44:09 AMIn a court of law, objective evidence and enough subjective personal testimony will usually allow you a verdict on the existence and facts of an event. A really strong arguement needs a combination of both types of supporting evidence. With this ufo and alien shit, if you look into it; the documented personal and historical cultural testimony is huge, its undeniable. Just like the existence of Satan, so i can go shootup my school and claim that satan possessed me and made me do it. The court of law would have to believe me and find me innocent as there are huge amounts of objective/subjective/documented historical/cultural evidence on demonic possessions to acquit me. LOL you angry angry young man. Well if you wanted to get away with that, it would still be ideal to have a combination of both forms of supporting evidence for a strong arguement in your case. Even if you had normative and subjective evidence of demonic possession there is not really any objective, scientific evidence of demonic possession to support it. With the aliens, the subjective evidence is huge, its undeniable that there is subjective evidence there. Whats lacking is the objective evidence to support it. People seen aliens, but they don't have the alien with them to prove it. Thats why its real for them subjectively, for other people to believe them they need objective evidence to support the subjective testimony.
If you possessed the ability to comprehend the basic communicative language and reasoning of my previous post you would have understood the issue isn't that the subjective evidence is simply 'huge', the point is: compared to subjective claims of demonic possession, the subjective evidence of UFOs and aliens is of a higher quality spread over a larger and broader demographic of people from various occupations and is not confined to one particular time or place throughout history or the globe. President Carter reported seeing a UFO, look furthure into it all yourself, or don't. "One thing's for sure, I'll never make fun of people who say they've seen unidentified objects in the sky. If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists." -US President Carter (while running for election, after becoming President he distanced himself from his election promise citing security concerns).
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