EMINEM - RELAPSE (Official Discussion)

[Dre-Day]

lol at woodpecker from space

[Chad Vader]

lol at woodpecker from space

Hope you noticed that the Video Kids is Dutch.... 

[TraceOneInfinite]

Here you go Sccit I found it

[TraceOneInfinite]

Ok. I gave the album a few listens before I analyzed it for review. So here are my thoughts…
I don’t like his accent or high pitched singing. I find it EXTREMELY annoying and practically unlistenable. Like many have said here already there are a lot of songs that could’ve been so much better if he only stopped with the accent and high-pitched singing (he doesn’t have the excuse here for “experimenting” because he did those particular things on ENCORE and most people hated it).
However…
In my humble opinion this is definitely better than ENCORE. Regardless of a failed attempt to be creative or despite some people’s negative reaction to his “foul mouthed” content, his flow, word-play and lyrical delivery is crazy… and continues to hold him as one of Hip Hop’s greatest MCs. Before the haters jump on me for that comment, remember, content doesn’t determine your lyrical ability. If I were to be like “oh there he goes talking about guns and selling drugs, and fucking bitches on every song” and then be like “lyrically he’s garbage” than I would believe people like Biggie or Big L are trash (which obviously isn’t the case). Another important factor is the fact that Em is no longer new. He’s 10 years in the game so naturally, people who followed his music from the beginning will not be as shocked and entertained as the newer, younger fans will from his subject matter. Plus he’s a famous star so you know how people generally root for the underdog. But there is definitely some things he really needs to cut out… seriously.


So yes the album is definitely flawed and possible a disappointment to those expecting “the second coming” from Eminem. But this is nowhere near the hate it’s getting here nor is it as bad as his previous solo piece. It has it’s moments… good and not so good.

This is one of the positive reviews.  This posters says it “doesn’t deserve all the hate it’s getting on here”

[TraceOneInfinite]

well encore is worth about 1.5/10 so this solid 3/10 is definitely an improvement.

People giving it 3 out of 10

[HighEyeCue]

wow...Chad Vader and Dre-Day

when I had my OG account made about 06-07 they were 2 of the 1st forum members to welcome me

hope they are doing well

[Sccit]

People giving it 3 out of 10

you trying too hard


VVVVV

So far very happy with the tracks.....My Mom is that shit..I am loving that track!!

gotta say I'm impressed by the quality of the poductions I heard so far.

favorite joint so far is undeground. 

Dre is back on the cinematic shit

I still got a few joints to get through, but Insane is just that. Dre laced some shit...

The production is phenomenal.  Not all of it makes you grab for the sky but none of it is bad.  Well defined and flows

woah, this "My Mom" beat is THE SHIT   but WOW this hook is AWFUL..

Need to listen to this a few more times to get a feel for it, but the production is on point

Stay wide awake beat is the shit...damn

that "My Mom" beat is just BUMPING!

^^ this is only off the first couple pages



interstingly enough, you weren't even in this thread which now explains why u dislike it so much.. u weren't there in real time LOL

[TraceOneInfinite]

you trying too hard


VVVVV





^^ this is only off the first couple pages



interstingly enough, you weren't even in this thread which now explains why u dislike it so much.. u weren't there in real time LOL

Yeah it explains a lot…

I didn’t like the album.

You solved the case, Sherlock.

…and it’s a lot of fuccin pages, I ain’t read every one yet, but so far most I see are hatin on it.  I’ll get back later today, after I checked more pages with quotes to match yours cause I ain’t got jack shit to do all day today

[Sccit]

Yeah it explains a lot…

I didn’t like the album.

You solved the case, Sherlock.

…and it’s a lot of fuccin pages, I ain’t read every one yet, but so far most I see are hatin on it.  I’ll get back later today, after I checked more pages with quotes to match yours cause I ain’t got jack shit to do all day today

it's not that u didn't like the album  ....  it's that you weren't into music during this time. so u listened to it later in passing.

you were in a transition period of your life... you tend to judge music emotionally .. music represents periods in your life

if this came out in 2004 when u were still heavy on eminem's nuts you woulda loved it




the first few pages are mostly praises, i even posted all the feedback from them .. you lyin for no reason



my point to begin with wasn't that this was beloved by everyone when it dropped.. it was that 1.the biggest criticism was eminem's accents, which many weren't feeling 2.the production was given nothing but praise and 3.recovery was received way worse by a majority of hip-hop heads


pay attention

[Lucifuge]

When i use to rap, this album is very inspirational in sense of wordplay, punches, flow patterns, rhymes schemes, even in production. Schemes are crazy, till this day. Album is golden.

[TraceOneInfinite]

quite a few beats i'm digging but none of it is really anything spectacular considering tracks like outta control rmx, imagine etc that dre did several years ago. and eminem is completely out of place for the most part.

HELLO - hard hitting, mellow, funky beat. would be IDEAL for a nate dogg solo. could be worse but em completely ruins it with the hook.

MEDICINE BALL - probably the best 'banger' on here. 50 could do with more tracks like this for his own album. eminem actually rips into this one, not too many complaints apart from the goofy shit but better suited to a rapper like 50.

MUST BE THE GANJA - crazy banging beat, eminem out of place with a silly hook in a song about weed. this is more of a snoop beat.

UNDERGROUND - biiiiig sounding beat, would be better with the crisper drums and again awful, awful hook....

SAME SONG & DANCE - agree with what luna said, this is terrible. so much for this being one of the better tracks.

MY MOM - again terrible hook and the lyrical content doesn't really fit the beat. needs a female singer on here.

Only one he really liked was "Medicine Ball" and even that track he complains was "goofy shit".  I had to go back and listen to the song, the hook and beat are FIRE but the lyrical content in the verses is empty

after 1 listen..


Intro - N/A
3 AM - 3.75/5
My Mom - 3.5/5
Insane - 4/5
Bagpipes from Baghdad - 2/5
Hello - 3.75/5
Tonya - N/A
Same Song & Dance - 2/5
We Made You - 1/5
Medicine Ball - 3.75/5
Paul - N/A
Stay Wide Awake - 4/5
Old Time's Sake - 4.5/5
Must Be The Ganja - 2.5/5
Mr. Mathers - N/A
Deja Vu - 4/5
Beautiful - 5/5
Crack a Bottle - 3.5/5
Steve - N/A
Underground - 5/5

2nd listen now..gonna drop a more in depth review..

Only 5/5 is for "Beautiful" which sounds and feels totally different from the rest of the album and is an outlier. 

his accents reminds me marshall mathers lp and thats what i was waiting for... i'm downloading it right now and i hope beats are ok... because old Em is back!!!
what tha fuck are you people talking bout his accent... u want a new encore??? fuck you.... slim shady is back!!!
however who says that "old times sake" is a good song... fuck em all too... thats wack.... underground is what u can call "good, great, or whatever else"...

Jay was hyped initially, obviously willing to give it a chance and a fair shake

Big dissapointment. 

This reminds me of Aug. 4th 1998 when I waited in line outside blockbuster music for the midnight release of Snoop's "Game Is To Be Sold" album... had been waiting for that album to drop for so long, and....

Thought you said I wasn't in the thread Sccit? What's that shit you said, "pay attention" or "look closer", lol. 

Subject matter is always the big thing with Eminem for me (Replay value, Prob not gonna bump this past a week)
basically the same stuff, BUt if you like his shit.. You will like this album.

The Christopher Reeves shit (On Medicine Ball) ... is weak, just like it was on Encore.
Overall. Beats lift it to a 6/10

The keystylin homie Hatesrats agrees with me, dude is shittin on the lyrical content.  Played out "Christopher Reeves" material.  Says he won't bump after one week (no replay value)

It's hard to listen to some tracks with this strange ass accent, though Dre impressed me with the beats for the most part.

^^this cat saying in spite of the Dre production shit is hard to listen to.

...I'm 8 pages in and its not looking too good for you Relapse Cultists

[Sccit]

Only one he really liked was "Medicine Ball" and even that track he complains was "goofy shit".  I had to go back and listen to the song, the hook and beat are FIRE but the lyrical content in the verses is empty

Only 5/5 is for "Beautiful" which sounds and feels totally different from the rest of the album and is an outlier. 

Jay was hyped initially, obviously willing to give it a chance and a fair shake

Thought you said I wasn't in the thread Sccit? What's that shit you said, "pay attention" or "look closer", lol. 

The keystylin homie Hatesrats agrees with me, dude is shittin on the lyrical content.  Played out "Christopher Reeves" material.  Says he won't bump after one week (no replay value)

^^this cat saying in spite of the Dre production shit is hard to listen to.

...I'm 8 pages in and its not looking too good for you Relapse Cultists

bro you're acting legit slow

them kids must be doin a number on you out there

do you not remember what my claim was? i said from the beginning that everyone disliked the accents but cited THE BEATS as the strong point after jay claimed the production was the issue .. and you're literally proving my point with those quotes you're posting

i also said that it wasn't initially received as well as his previous work but later gained a cult following ... and that despite not being initially loved universally, it was still received far better than recovery by most em fans.

like i said

PAY ATTENTION

[Sccit]

Yo.. I just figured out I'm going to do my own edit for this album on acid pro... because these beats are bangers, and most the hooks are great... I can save a few good rhymes, verses here and there and make something decent out of it.

^^look at how much your ass actually loved the beats lmfao

and you're in the thread wit cey cey jerkin him off with both hands when his entire claim is that dre ruined the album with his production

have some self respect n keep it a buck homie


 

[TraceOneInfinite]

bro you're acting legit slow

them kids must be doin a number on you out there

do you not remember what my claim was? i said from the beginning that everyone disliked the accents but cited THE BEATS as the strong point after jay claimed the production was the issue .. and you're literally proving my point with those quotes you're posting

i also said that it wasn't initially received as well as his previous work but later gained a cult following ... and that despite not being initially loved universally, it was still received far better than recovery by most em fans.

like i said

PAY ATTENTION

Lol.. no, it's worse than that.  They are saying stuff like they will not listen to the album after one week. 

..hey man, I'm just doing research.  And so far it ain't looking too good for you guys.  But there are dozens of pages and I'm only on page 8, so maybe it will get better for the Relapse Cult. Then, next up, I will be bumping the Recovery Thread and I will have some solid Research on my hands, Wodie!

[Sccit]

Lol.. no, it's worse than that.  They are saying stuff like they will not listen to the album after one week. 

..hey man, I'm just doing research.  And so far it ain't looking too good for you guys.  But there are dozens of pages and I'm only on page 8, so maybe it will get better for the Relapse Cult. Then, next up, I will be bumping the Recovery Thread and I will have some solid Research on my hands, Wodie!

you're being disingenuous


most of the comments in here are positive and that actually surprised me .. you're nitpicking the negative comments in your constant everlasting quest to stump me. using "research" as an excuse not guna hide what's really real.

it's about 70/30 positive to negative comments in here.. recovery is about 30/70



still.. my point isn't about how many people liked it. it's about what people liked about it and what they didn't. if you were more concerned with facts than with outdoing me, you woulda been seen that.