Author Topic: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?  (Read 730 times)

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2009, 09:37:07 AM »
What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.

Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.

Hell yeah, he produced "U Betta Recognize", "Blueberries" (Sam Sneed/Snoop Dogg) and "Blueberry" from "Tha Doggfather", all were dope as fuck.


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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2009, 10:02:17 AM »
Sneed was not only his sidewing but the initial source for his hits after the chronic. dre took his style without thanking
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2009, 10:15:14 AM »
Sneed was not only his sidewing but the initial source for his hits after the chronic. dre took his style without thanking

dre helped sneed out bare especially after the tumour. dre helped pay for treatment and helped get him lniks within the industry after he was out of it so long.

btw to answer the original q id say mel man cause he helped dre produce a whole classic album
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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2009, 10:22:34 AM »
Sneed was not only his sidewing but the initial source for his hits after the chronic. dre took his style without thanking

pretty sure "Doggystyle" was Dre's shit


Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2009, 10:26:31 AM »
Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it

Yeah, and Daz claimed Dre stole the beat from him :D
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OG Hack Wilson

Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2009, 10:30:51 AM »
Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it

Yeah, and Daz claimed Dre stole the beat from him :D

LOL  Daz should've spoken up about that in 1993 and got his name on the credits then....Daz has lied about tons of shit int he past before...he has no credibility


i totally believe Warren G over Daz
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2009, 10:58:29 AM »
and most people thatīs claimed that heīs stolen from them doesnīt seem to have an idea what it means to be a producer. just coz you tell someone to change the drums or whatever doesnīt mean you actually produced the track. a true producerīs job is to arrange all the aspects of recording a song.
that's right, i'm glad you know the truth  ;)

there's a lot of posters on here that talk shit, but have no clue of what they're talking about

Yeah, it's great to know that you know Dr. Dre better then many people who been around him for years ;)

lol at the sarcasm, i never claimed that.

i just don't believe in assumptions like you do

Well, it just seems kinda odd that so many people are sayin the same shit about Dre. I ain't takin credit from him though, i consider him the best producer ever.

BUT, the main thing is that producin' don't mean makin' beats (i always though it did) and i always thought Dr. Dre is the best beat maker, but i guess things just ain't like that.

well there's not a short explanation for that, but when former partners state such things, you can tell that it's due to jealousy, greed & ignorance.

you know, in interviews, producers sometimes break down the difference between beatmaking & producing.
Terrace Martin & J.R. Rotem for example, did that.



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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2009, 11:07:02 AM »
no one thatīs claimed that theyīve ghost produced for Dre has any real credibility. the guys that were in the Souce saying it said it after they had been laid off from Aftermath, Daz said it years after Dre left DR and when Daz was broke and talked shit aboyt everyone etc etc. even Scott Storch said that Dre doesnīt take credit for otherīs work and that was after his contract with Dre and Aftermath was up. itīs the easiest thing in the world to claim especially since Dre never does any interviews and even he did heīd never talk about a bunch of washed up losers.

No one has any real credibility? Scott Storch said he produced "Still D.R.E" and Dre did the drums. So many people has said that Dre takes credit when he should not, it's kind of hard not to believe that's it true and even Snoop Dogg said that Dre "produces" (that doesn't mean he makes the beat)

Scott Storch did the keyboards, and he was given credit for it. Dre didn't take credit for that. Go back and look at the 2001 booklet.
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2009, 11:20:44 AM »
from "the man with the master plan" so "you better recorgnize" tha OG.
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2009, 05:59:24 PM »
What I want to know is why these producers never do jack after leaving Dre. Its like he has that influence to bring out the best in people.

Sam Sneed was capable of producing great tracks solo (Bag O'Weed, What Comes Around), but had that brain tumour after leaving Death Row which limited his output.

Hell yeah, he produced "U Betta Recognize", "Blueberries" (Sam Sneed/Snoop Dogg) and "Blueberry" from "Tha Doggfather", all were dope as fuck.

Exactly, Dre was quoted as saying that Sam Sneed was Death Row's secret weapon. DJ Quik gives him props in the Safe + Sound booklet. Sam Sneed's never claimed to ghost produce tracks fro Dre either. The man is a production legend...shame his catalogue is so small, he had talent for real. 8)
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #40 on: May 13, 2009, 07:13:46 PM »
Warren G helped produce "ain't no fun" but admits Dre made it the hit that it became by tweaking it

Yeah, and Daz claimed Dre stole the beat from him :D

LOL  Daz should've spoken up about that in 1993 and got his name on the credits then....Daz has lied about tons of shit int he past before...he has no credibility


i totally believe Warren G over Daz

Its sad to see how terrible Daz got after Dre left DR.  I used to think Daz was a pretty good producer, but I think he has proven time and time again that he was not the force behind the DR era beats.  I wouldn't mind seeing him get back with Dre though, to see if he still has the magic.
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2009, 07:21:59 PM »
but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when  youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss.

People who work with Dre have to sign a contract and it's about not talkin about the projects they workin on.

Scott Storch said a few times that he really produced "Still D.R.E." and Dre only did the drums, there's was even a article about it (can't remember it it was in The Source or not)

So Cold 187Um doesn't have talent? Dre blackballed him so that he can't even get a fuckin record deal (well, that's what Hutch said).

And about "being big" without Dre, Scott Storch is pretty big, was and still is even though he's had some problems.

Why doesn't Mike Elizondo work with Dr. Dre anymore?

Mike apparently got tired of rap from what he told me.
 

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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2009, 12:47:24 AM »
anyway, it's kind of hard to compare Mel-Man with Sam Sneed, as Sam's amount of work was limited

Okka

Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2009, 01:13:34 AM »
but itīs real funny that no one has a problem with him "stealing" before he fires them. if itīs a problem when  youīre no longer an employee of his it sure as shit wouldīve been a problem while you worked for him aswell. and Scott Storch only said that he came up with they keyboard riff and you can find that on yoututube. it was when Sway interviewed him. and if they had all of that talent theyīd be just as big without Dre coz Dre could never blackball a producer with real talent. and it wouldnīt be too hard for them go copyright their material then there would never have been anything to discuss.

People who work with Dre have to sign a contract and it's about not talkin about the projects they workin on.

Scott Storch said a few times that he really produced "Still D.R.E." and Dre only did the drums, there's was even a article about it (can't remember it it was in The Source or not)

So Cold 187Um doesn't have talent? Dre blackballed him so that he can't even get a fuckin record deal (well, that's what Hutch said).

And about "being big" without Dre, Scott Storch is pretty big, was and still is even though he's had some problems.

Why doesn't Mike Elizondo work with Dr. Dre anymore?

Mike apparently got tired of rap from what he told me.

He was doin some work on "Relapse".
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Re: Sam Sneed or Mel-Man ? Who was the better sidekick ?
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2009, 01:16:41 AM »
anyway, it's kind of hard to compare Mel-Man with Sam Sneed, as Sam's amount of work was limited

Yeah, that's true. Was Joe Beast's "Gangsta" produced by Dre or Mel-Man?
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