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Quote from: DJ Coma on August 06, 2009, 01:17:02 PMWell Wideawake owns Daz's catalog from Death Row and wants to release it. Daz doesn't have to do a god damn thing, and he will make money with Wideawake, so why is it fuck them?Daz, Snoop, and Dre would likely be able to tell everyone that. Wideawake is a business trying to recoup $25 million and make a profit, people usually get pissed off at people that try to do them wrong. That's all I can say for sure.Snoop and Daz seem to be concerned about doing shit themselves and being independent hence.. Nu-Ro Records.
Well Wideawake owns Daz's catalog from Death Row and wants to release it. Daz doesn't have to do a god damn thing, and he will make money with Wideawake, so why is it fuck them?
Quote from: soopapriest on August 06, 2009, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on August 06, 2009, 01:17:02 PMWell Wideawake owns Daz's catalog from Death Row and wants to release it. Daz doesn't have to do a god damn thing, and he will make money with Wideawake, so why is it fuck them?Daz, Snoop, and Dre would likely be able to tell everyone that. Wideawake is a business trying to recoup $25 million and make a profit, people usually get pissed off at people that try to do them wrong. That's all I can say for sure.Snoop and Daz seem to be concerned about doing shit themselves and being independent hence.. Nu-Ro Records.What I'm saying is they can do their independent thing and do whatever the hell they want on their own, and WideAwake can release the material that they have on them, on their own without any assistance from Daz & crew. Nobody is saying they have to like resign to Death Row or anything like that. To me it just seems like an effortless way for them to make more money and they don't gotta worry about shit. And for Daz to already be saying fuck them is kinda jumping the gun don't you think? I read an interview with Lara Lavi that is pretty recent that paints a different picture of what Daz thinks of WideAwake. At this point, Lara definitely holds WAY more credibility than Daz and you and I both know that's true.Alex: Have you spoken to any of the older artists that made Death Row what it was?Lara: I know. I’ve had a chance to sit in a room as recently as last week with Daz (Dillinger), Supafly and Lady of Rage, when they were on tour in Vancouver and actually had heart to heart’s with them. Not just sit around and you know…sit around. Lara: I’ve had lengthy conversations with Snoop’s management and lawyers and one very solid conversation with Snoop. Dre is waiting to see us put our money where our mouth is. Like I said with the Tupac Shakur estate, I would say I am on the best possible terms with Afeni Shakur.
Quote from: DJ Coma on August 06, 2009, 05:55:03 PMQuote from: soopapriest on August 06, 2009, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on August 06, 2009, 01:17:02 PMWell Wideawake owns Daz's catalog from Death Row and wants to release it. Daz doesn't have to do a god damn thing, and he will make money with Wideawake, so why is it fuck them?Daz, Snoop, and Dre would likely be able to tell everyone that. Wideawake is a business trying to recoup $25 million and make a profit, people usually get pissed off at people that try to do them wrong. That's all I can say for sure.Snoop and Daz seem to be concerned about doing shit themselves and being independent hence.. Nu-Ro Records.What I'm saying is they can do their independent thing and do whatever the hell they want on their own, and WideAwake can release the material that they have on them, on their own without any assistance from Daz & crew. Nobody is saying they have to like resign to Death Row or anything like that. To me it just seems like an effortless way for them to make more money and they don't gotta worry about shit. And for Daz to already be saying fuck them is kinda jumping the gun don't you think? I read an interview with Lara Lavi that is pretty recent that paints a different picture of what Daz thinks of WideAwake. At this point, Lara definitely holds WAY more credibility than Daz and you and I both know that's true.Alex: Have you spoken to any of the older artists that made Death Row what it was?Lara: I know. I’ve had a chance to sit in a room as recently as last week with Daz (Dillinger), Supafly and Lady of Rage, when they were on tour in Vancouver and actually had heart to heart’s with them. Not just sit around and you know…sit around. Lara: I’ve had lengthy conversations with Snoop’s management and lawyers and one very solid conversation with Snoop. Dre is waiting to see us put our money where our mouth is. Like I said with the Tupac Shakur estate, I would say I am on the best possible terms with Afeni Shakur. Anyway you look at it Wideawake spent $25 million that it has to recoup and make a profit. Why make some company rich off your own material? They already did that once with Suge. They'll get paid regardless. If anything all the old Death Row artists have a vested interest in making sure Wideawake fails and hoping nothing gets released. If they see those assets drop in price and get split apart, remove the 2pac option album, they might be able to get their masters at a decent price. I would not be surprised if this is Dre's plan as it is.And if I'm an artist going on tour.. I make more money doing it myself rather than under a record label taking a cut of the ticket sales. DPG does not need Wideawake, Wideawake needs them to make cash. If Wideawake offers the artists back their masters.. that's when some cool shit could go down.
Quote from: soopapriest on August 06, 2009, 07:16:35 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on August 06, 2009, 05:55:03 PMQuote from: soopapriest on August 06, 2009, 04:48:12 PMQuote from: DJ Coma on August 06, 2009, 01:17:02 PMWell Wideawake owns Daz's catalog from Death Row and wants to release it. Daz doesn't have to do a god damn thing, and he will make money with Wideawake, so why is it fuck them?Daz, Snoop, and Dre would likely be able to tell everyone that. Wideawake is a business trying to recoup $25 million and make a profit, people usually get pissed off at people that try to do them wrong. That's all I can say for sure.Snoop and Daz seem to be concerned about doing shit themselves and being independent hence.. Nu-Ro Records.What I'm saying is they can do their independent thing and do whatever the hell they want on their own, and WideAwake can release the material that they have on them, on their own without any assistance from Daz & crew. Nobody is saying they have to like resign to Death Row or anything like that. To me it just seems like an effortless way for them to make more money and they don't gotta worry about shit. And for Daz to already be saying fuck them is kinda jumping the gun don't you think? I read an interview with Lara Lavi that is pretty recent that paints a different picture of what Daz thinks of WideAwake. At this point, Lara definitely holds WAY more credibility than Daz and you and I both know that's true.Alex: Have you spoken to any of the older artists that made Death Row what it was?Lara: I know. I’ve had a chance to sit in a room as recently as last week with Daz (Dillinger), Supafly and Lady of Rage, when they were on tour in Vancouver and actually had heart to heart’s with them. Not just sit around and you know…sit around. Lara: I’ve had lengthy conversations with Snoop’s management and lawyers and one very solid conversation with Snoop. Dre is waiting to see us put our money where our mouth is. Like I said with the Tupac Shakur estate, I would say I am on the best possible terms with Afeni Shakur. Anyway you look at it Wideawake spent $25 million that it has to recoup and make a profit. Why make some company rich off your own material? They already did that once with Suge. They'll get paid regardless. If anything all the old Death Row artists have a vested interest in making sure Wideawake fails and hoping nothing gets released. If they see those assets drop in price and get split apart, remove the 2pac option album, they might be able to get their masters at a decent price. I would not be surprised if this is Dre's plan as it is.And if I'm an artist going on tour.. I make more money doing it myself rather than under a record label taking a cut of the ticket sales. DPG does not need Wideawake, Wideawake needs them to make cash. If Wideawake offers the artists back their masters.. that's when some cool shit could go down.I see your argument with the tour but that is a completely separate issue. And saying that WideAwake needs DPG, DPG doesn't need WideAwake is complete bullshit. I guarantee you that WideAwake could put out an unreleased Dogg Pound album and properly market it without any support from Tha Dogg Pound and sell more than any album of new material that DPG can put on the shelf right now. It's not that they need them or don't need them, it's that they WANT work to work with former artists, have a good relationship, and allow them to make money off stuff that they NEVER would have had a chance to make money off in the past.Offer the artists back their masters? Ummm, like you said they spent a lot of money ($18 million not $25) and need to recoup. What do u think is the majority of that $18 million? Oh that's right, MASTERS! So they should sell all the artists back their masters for a couple g's and be able to make zero future profit off of those recordings and recoup a very small percentage of what they just paid for the company? HELL NO! At the end of the day WideAwake is a business looking to make money and they are looking to do it the proper and respectable way so people need to quit faulting them for trying to do the right thing, given the situation. I don't think a lot of you have really thought about how shit would be going if a different set of people bought Death Row. I seriously don't think anybody that had the money to buy Death Row would be nearly as close to doing for us fans what WideAwake is doing. They have the artists', the fans, and their own best interests in mind with the agenda they are running now. So we need to support them and STFU about all this other bullshit. Seriously, STFU and support them.