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Quote from: Shallow on January 04, 2010, 07:16:09 AMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 10:25:35 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 10:12:50 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 09:24:30 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PMThe Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.Ah. That's kind of stupid but whatever. I'm assuming head to head would trump everything.It does. The Patriots and Bengals never played each other this season. Neither did the Jets and Ravens.I know. I'm just saying it should be head to head, then division record, then conference, then same teams record. That makes more sense to me. Both Ne and Cinci are there because they won their divisions, so if they both have the same over all record then the first thing to divide who is better after head to head should be how they did with in their division.The logic (and I agree with it) is that since they are not in the same division, their division record isn't really relevant. If they play in different divisions, then division record doesn't do too much to determine who has the better record since it is different teams they are playing.And yet a 9-7 division champ would get home field advantage against a 12-4 Wildcard team even if the head to head, conference record, common opponent, and strength of victory all favor the Wildcard team. My point is division means something in the NFL most of the time. My personal belief is that if you don't have a top 6 Win?Loss record you don't make the playoffs. If that means certain divisions get shut out then so be it. theres definately credence to that, some teams making the playoffs just becasue their devision is terrible, automatic 6 wins, and get in the playoffs with 6 wins, however, whats the point of divisions then, you might as well just have the nfc and afc clumped into two giant groups, but i think it would get too messy
Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 10:25:35 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 10:12:50 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 09:24:30 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PMThe Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.Ah. That's kind of stupid but whatever. I'm assuming head to head would trump everything.It does. The Patriots and Bengals never played each other this season. Neither did the Jets and Ravens.I know. I'm just saying it should be head to head, then division record, then conference, then same teams record. That makes more sense to me. Both Ne and Cinci are there because they won their divisions, so if they both have the same over all record then the first thing to divide who is better after head to head should be how they did with in their division.The logic (and I agree with it) is that since they are not in the same division, their division record isn't really relevant. If they play in different divisions, then division record doesn't do too much to determine who has the better record since it is different teams they are playing.And yet a 9-7 division champ would get home field advantage against a 12-4 Wildcard team even if the head to head, conference record, common opponent, and strength of victory all favor the Wildcard team. My point is division means something in the NFL most of the time. My personal belief is that if you don't have a top 6 Win?Loss record you don't make the playoffs. If that means certain divisions get shut out then so be it.
Quote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 10:12:50 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 09:24:30 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PMThe Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.Ah. That's kind of stupid but whatever. I'm assuming head to head would trump everything.It does. The Patriots and Bengals never played each other this season. Neither did the Jets and Ravens.I know. I'm just saying it should be head to head, then division record, then conference, then same teams record. That makes more sense to me. Both Ne and Cinci are there because they won their divisions, so if they both have the same over all record then the first thing to divide who is better after head to head should be how they did with in their division.The logic (and I agree with it) is that since they are not in the same division, their division record isn't really relevant. If they play in different divisions, then division record doesn't do too much to determine who has the better record since it is different teams they are playing.
Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:36:45 PMQuote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 09:24:30 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PMThe Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.Ah. That's kind of stupid but whatever. I'm assuming head to head would trump everything.It does. The Patriots and Bengals never played each other this season. Neither did the Jets and Ravens.I know. I'm just saying it should be head to head, then division record, then conference, then same teams record. That makes more sense to me. Both Ne and Cinci are there because they won their divisions, so if they both have the same over all record then the first thing to divide who is better after head to head should be how they did with in their division.
Quote from: Shallow on January 03, 2010, 09:24:30 PMQuote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PMThe Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.Ah. That's kind of stupid but whatever. I'm assuming head to head would trump everything.It does. The Patriots and Bengals never played each other this season. Neither did the Jets and Ravens.
Quote from: Teddy Roosevelt on January 03, 2010, 09:19:02 PMThe Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.Ah. That's kind of stupid but whatever. I'm assuming head to head would trump everything.
The Patriots and Bengals have the same conference record (7-5), so the tie breaker is based on games against common opponents. The Patriots record is 2-3 while the Bengals are 1-3. Same for the Jets and Ravens. Both have a conference record of 7-5, but their record against common opponents is Jets 4-0 and Ravens 1-4. Division records only matter if they are in the same division.
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Rivers would be your MVP if #18 wasn't in the league.they are better then they have been the last few years; finally heathly & the last few years they have seem to put away the Colts.