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& since you think Biggie is such a huge name/impact, etc., you can thank Mr. Tupac Shakur for that lol.the beef put Biggie on another planet; the fact he was even fucking with Pac made him larger than life, no pun intended.the guy was the butt-end of arguably the greatest diss track in rap history, was killed in to what some believe is "retaliation" for the death of Pac.the fact that when you said Tupac's name, the first thing you thought was "Tupac vs. Biggie".Big was great, but then you put him against the greatest & factor in all the exposure Pac gave him & the fact he is one of the few rappers gunned down & was the Hip Hop voice of the greatest state in the country ( ) & what you really have is just hype all bottled together that gives off the aura of being "GOAT".i don't think Big could scratch the top 5.
but lyrically we are talkin...rakims disco isnt the best in 30 years...lol....but lyrically hes a beastso the rest dont count or that would be a seperate list...but lyrically talkin herecrooked dont have a album...all he got is a billboard...does that make him wack? loland as far as jay's muzik...its not the best muzik to say its all classic or hes a dope rapper always...nah hes not..hes a businessman who also raps and has rapped for years but very overratedbut lyrically IMO pac would and did eat jay and biggie alive...and dead...lol
Nobody casn deny ready to die is a classic album and nobody can deny biggie is an amazing artist.BUT,I think the problem most people have is that hes viewed as one of the best ever,if not the best when he wasnt around long enough to dignify that.Because life after death was a step backwards from his first album,whos to say he wouldnt have fallen off?Where as pac seemed to get stronger every album with makavelli is best lyrical album he had released.I can agree biggie was amazing and its a shame he wasnt around longer but I cant crown an artist who only has two albums.
it depends on how you do top ten I guessbecause cats like pac, jay, biggie deserve top ten if you talk about from cultural impact. you can't name 3 bigger artists than them who have contributed to hip-hop with relative longevity. hate all you want on jay's artistic merits but it's the truth.but, i'm a just go off personal top ten because that's the only real legit way to do it without factoring in too much
lol @ cham shitting on biggie and then putting big l in his list hahahabig l is a beast but most of the things u critisize biggie for are true for big l too. he only had one proper album and it wasnt even as good as ready to die. course he did mad shit with ditc tho
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 26, 2010, 09:14:21 PMbut lyrically we are talkin...rakims disco isnt the best in 30 years...lol....but lyrically hes a beastso the rest dont count or that would be a seperate list...but lyrically talkin herecrooked dont have a album...all he got is a billboard...does that make him wack? loland as far as jay's muzik...its not the best muzik to say its all classic or hes a dope rapper always...nah hes not..hes a businessman who also raps and has rapped for years but very overratedbut lyrically IMO pac would and did eat jay and biggie alive...and dead...lol Jay-Z is a dope rapper. To call him a businessman who raps suggest that he's Puffy or Eazy-E. When we're talking lyricists, are we going strictly on the content or are we including how they perform it in the booth? I mean, are you strictly listening to what the lyrics are or actually listening to how he flips his words and keeps moving. I'll admit I wasn't always the biggest Jay fan but he's pretty on top of his game when it comes to hitting with those punchlines and metaphors. I think with the exception of KRS-One, he runs circles around every rapper you listed in your top 6 or 7 when it comes to that shit.
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous is five times Ready To Die, in my opinion.so you can shit on my opinion if you like, but people would easily agree with me.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on March 27, 2010, 10:13:13 AMLifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous is five times Ready To Die, in my opinion.so you can shit on my opinion if you like, but people would easily agree with me. It's still one album though, partner. Not gonna shit on you for it. Just don't agree with you.
Look it's obvious that you're in a minority. They're influence alone is greater than what you're giving them credit for. So, in that sense, you're both wrong. And, it's easy to say WOULD HAVE or PROBABLY HAVE but you have little proof. BIG died so it's sad we didn't get to see his legacy play out. Jay-Z's been around and his legacy stands for itself. Not many rappers have done what he has done. You're failing to recognise that it all doesn't boil down to technical skill. Jay's music has spread among more ears and connected to more people than most. It's about reflecting certain truths and Jay's music has done that.