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keep praisin jay-z, and biggie as the greatest but they arent IMO...far from it actually....they are borin rappers....who get on dope beats....onto the next one...that shit is wack
but why does it always come down to biggie and jay-z...whats so special about them...when theres other dope rappers out there that would and prolly have killed those 2 and more
damn u still havent logged off...ur hurting everyone with all this wack shit u drop, it hurts more then getting the swine fluQuote from: Laconic on March 16, 2010, 08:21:33 AMTue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cubegbee:@ Petey: you sound like a broken record, time to grow up.
Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:15 AM By: Ice CubeMe and Mack 10 together again? I never say never, but he has the kiss the ring first.Cube
face and nas are two of the best rappers ever
yeah they prolly had a bigger impact...but could that have been cuz of the big label they were on....
some would argue in face favor he has got jay-z on all their collabo's....
they got dope lyricsthey write their own lyricstheir flow is on point and crazyand more
if all that is better than jay and biggie's muzik....its more of who they were with and who they became or how they became who they became rather than they are better than nas or face.....otherwise face is one of the coldest and dopest rappers to ever live and hes much better than biggie and jay-z IMO
scarface didnt become a hit overnight nas and years later he still dont get the respect he deserves...nas gets a lil more respect but still not enough
is their legacy of what they did and who they did it with more important or what they can do as a rapper?
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AM face and nas are two of the best rappers ever You'll get no complaint there. Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AM yeah they prolly had a bigger impact...but could that have been cuz of the big label they were on.... Doubtful. Nas and Face were both on major labels themselves. Jay's first album was an independent release distributed through Priority. He didn't have his mainstream breakthrough until his third album. In terms of exposure, Nas was getting about the same at this point. Jay-Z was not this product of the "machine". If anything, Big and Jay reached a bigger audience because their content is more acceptable to the mainstream. Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AM some would argue in face favor he has got jay-z on all their collabo's.... Maye some would. Rappers get outshined on their own shit sometimes. They lose battles to lesser rappers. It happens. I'm not saying Nas ain't better than Jay or Face ain't better than Jay. I'm saying from a devil's advocate position, Jay gotta get his credit too. Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AMthey got dope lyricsthey write their own lyricstheir flow is on point and crazyand more I'd say this of any rapper I'd put in the top 10. You honestly think either has a more versatile flow than Jay or Biggie? Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AMif all that is better than jay and biggie's muzik....its more of who they were with and who they became or how they became who they became rather than they are better than nas or face.....otherwise face is one of the coldest and dopest rappers to ever live and hes much better than biggie and jay-z IMO It's not about who's better or worse to me. I'm not saying either one is WAY BETTER than the other. I'm saying of these rappers. Tupac, Eminem, Nas, Ice Cube, Scarface, Jay-Z, Notorious B.I.G. Not one of them is better than all the rest in every category of what makes a great MC. There are areas where Big is better than Pac. There are areas where Jay is better than Nas. There are areas where Eminem is better than Scarface. And vice versa. Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AMscarface didnt become a hit overnight nas and years later he still dont get the respect he deserves...nas gets a lil more respect but still not enough And this is the exact fucking problem I have with this argument. It's arguing that someone is better because they aren't getting as much credit as a more mainstream artist. You could have two emcees that were equal and because one isn't getting the recognition for whatever reason, the other is automatically "overrated" even if he earned its spot. It seems like it's more about shitting on every rapper you don't like as much who has more shine than about selling the strengths of the rapper you do like. Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 07:17:12 AMis their legacy of what they did and who they did it with more important or what they can do as a rapper? Their legacy of what they did is a direct example of what they can do as a rapper. Should we not use direct examples from their careers or does it make more sense to throw up a hypothetical of what they could do if they were on this label with this amount of money and public exposure or battled this guy? I keep hearing mention of how so and so could crush or kill this person on the mic. But what are we really talking about? Are we saying they could make a better diss? Better battle rapper? The crowd would feel them more? Better freestyler? Write a better song on the same 16? All of this or none of this?
1. Rakim2. Chuck D (Public Enemy)3. Nas4. Tupac Shakur5. Jay-Z6. Ice Cube7. KRS-One8. CommonHate to say this but I can see Kanye creeping in based on his artistic growth. Also, 50 will always be a favourite.
but jay-z, biggie, and others are preached as bein gods on the mic....
you got your opinion and everyone else got theirs...understandin or not....noones goin to agree...some will take sides for what its worth
and you mentioned in what sense are face and nas betterdissinsong structureflowdeliveryi mean it goes on......if anythin biggie is better than jay-z but they arent on face level or nas
50 will be in your top 10 of all time?
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 05:20:45 PM50 will be in your top 10 of all time? Now, why is that questionable when you put WC for consideration in your top 7?
50 will be in your top 10 of all time?Quote from: Action! on March 28, 2010, 05:15:38 PM1. Rakim2. Chuck D (Public Enemy)3. Nas4. Tupac Shakur5. Jay-Z6. Ice Cube7. KRS-One8. CommonHate to say this but I can see Kanye creeping in based on his artistic growth. Also, 50 will always be a favourite.
haha nah jimmy i see what you doin...wc is a different artist...im not sayin he should be thrown in automatically...no but hes underrated and jay and biggie are beyond overrated
Quote from: GET YOUR WALK ON on March 28, 2010, 05:29:49 PMhaha nah jimmy i see what you doin...wc is a different artist...im not sayin he should be thrown in automatically...no but hes underrated and jay and biggie are beyond overrated Generally speaking, anyone that is good enough to be considered one of the greatest of all-time is probably gonna be "beyond overrated" if you weren't much of a fan to begin with. You don't think 2Pac is overrated to some extent by certain people? I think if we're looking at fanbases who take their favorite artist and turn everything he ever records into "the greatest classic ever", I gotta say my vote goes for Tupac and Eminem. Ironically, I'd still call them two of the greatest. I'm not gonna ignore their talent just because their fans think they are bigger than the genre itself. I'm not gonna start bigging up some artist I know isn't better, just because less people acknowledge him and he's not "overrated". A very good artist that is underrated is not better than an incredible artist who is overrated.