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Quote from: shaka zulu on May 11, 2010, 09:30:25 AMQuote from: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 11, 2010, 08:46:30 AMThere's also the possibility that maybe the Old West just doesn't think the New West are talented enought to merit working with. Think about it: in school, would you want to collaborate with someone on a project who you felt wasn't as smart as you? To the point where you had to carry the group. No. You want to be in a group of people who you think are on your level.Let me ask you -- which members of the New West do you think are at the same level of the Old West in terms of ability to make good music? The Old West can't be haters if they estimate that the new rappers just aren't talented enough to work with....Just a thought...A big part in this phenomenon is musicianship in all forms of the art. When you talk about the old west you have to take into consideration that many of the OGs are real musicians who play live intsruments and not just computer software experts. Then you look at the gangsta phenomenon all this gangsta street credibility stuff has gave the art a mis-reprensentation of the form. N.W.A were street reporters they took the B-boy conscious rap formula from the east coast and morphed it into the scenary of what the west coast was all about it wasn't until snoop came into the picture that the gang bang stuff came into the art and changed it's expression from musicianship into street credibility and blah blah blah. But even snoop has musicianship in his background. The whole thing now is we need to get back to the art which is about music. We turned musicianship into gangsterism which wasn't what was done in the beginning. Gangstas don't have no business trying to be musicians and musicians don't have no business trying to be gangsters. N.W.A, above the law,CMW,DJ quik were musicians who were street reporters not gangs bangers. We need to get back to being musicians and this way we will get better music and more artful expressions.i don't know barry white and jakie wilson was gangstas and great musicians and performers, it's all about making good music, and you can't say just cause someone is a gangsta they shouldn't be a musician! i think the gangsta stories are not done enough these days, the og's had crazy stories and they shit had a message to it,i don't hear that much today yell
Quote from: Detox Is A Myth!!! on May 11, 2010, 08:46:30 AMThere's also the possibility that maybe the Old West just doesn't think the New West are talented enought to merit working with. Think about it: in school, would you want to collaborate with someone on a project who you felt wasn't as smart as you? To the point where you had to carry the group. No. You want to be in a group of people who you think are on your level.Let me ask you -- which members of the New West do you think are at the same level of the Old West in terms of ability to make good music? The Old West can't be haters if they estimate that the new rappers just aren't talented enough to work with....Just a thought...A big part in this phenomenon is musicianship in all forms of the art. When you talk about the old west you have to take into consideration that many of the OGs are real musicians who play live intsruments and not just computer software experts. Then you look at the gangsta phenomenon all this gangsta street credibility stuff has gave the art a mis-reprensentation of the form. N.W.A were street reporters they took the B-boy conscious rap formula from the east coast and morphed it into the scenary of what the west coast was all about it wasn't until snoop came into the picture that the gang bang stuff came into the art and changed it's expression from musicianship into street credibility and blah blah blah. But even snoop has musicianship in his background. The whole thing now is we need to get back to the art which is about music. We turned musicianship into gangsterism which wasn't what was done in the beginning. Gangstas don't have no business trying to be musicians and musicians don't have no business trying to be gangsters. N.W.A, above the law,CMW,DJ quik were musicians who were street reporters not gangs bangers. We need to get back to being musicians and this way we will get better music and more artful expressions.
There's also the possibility that maybe the Old West just doesn't think the New West are talented enought to merit working with. Think about it: in school, would you want to collaborate with someone on a project who you felt wasn't as smart as you? To the point where you had to carry the group. No. You want to be in a group of people who you think are on your level.Let me ask you -- which members of the New West do you think are at the same level of the Old West in terms of ability to make good music? The Old West can't be haters if they estimate that the new rappers just aren't talented enough to work with....Just a thought...